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    Okay, I got this idea from the general stripping section and thought it would make interesting conversation. Plus it happened to me last night. I went to the club and the girl I like chilling with wasn't there. So I'm thinking, whatever, I brought money to blow, might as well blow it. So I sit down and watch the girls and the game. Whenever I see a girl I like I go up and tip. Anyways after a while no girls approach me. So I'm thinking maybe I gotta be more direct. I start going to the second and third stages tipping and asking if they wanna sell me a dance. All the girls smile take my money and said they'll talk to me when they get done. So I go and sit back at my table in good faith. I'm not about to harass them for a dance. However a song or two later I see them walking around trying to sell dances or whatnot and they see me, but never come up to me. I'm sitting there with some money in my pockets all these crazy thoughts going through my mind. (Do I look poor? Is it cuz' I'm sitting by myself? Do I look too young? Have I been marked as belonging to somebody else?) Anyways I wait for like 2 and a half hours with no luck. I cap off the night by going up to the stage and tipping a girl and turn around to see some asshole take my seat. (I swear I thought I was gonna beat his ass when I saw that.) But I took a breath and realized it was probably a sign that I should leave. Anyways question is. Do you dancer's do that often? If so, what are some of the reason's you do it? Has this ever happened to anybody else? Mind you it's only one particular club where this happens to me and I'm thinking about not going up there as frequently, but I'd like to see what everyone says before I make this choice. If it's something normal than I don't mind, as much.

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    Default Re: Dancers waving you off.

    if the other girls see u as another dancers regular then even if she is not there they will be reluctant to cut her lunch!
    this is especially true if she is one of the more senior/experienced dancers that the other dancers are either afraid of or look up to.

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    as long as you were presentable and not doing anything really odd, i don't see why that would happen. i (and most of the girls i know) would never turn down someone who asked for a dance. in fact, most of us love it when the customer asks. the only thing i can think of (like jaizaine said) is that the girls are afraid to come between you and your regular dancer. the only other option is that maybe they were all busy with people? were there very few girls there?

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    The only reasons I will blow off a guy who's ASKED me for a dance are:

    1. I've got other(s) waiting already - most common reason.
    2. A really good customer just arrived - he takes precedence.
    3. You're stinky.
    3. You have dragon breath.
    3. You acted like an ass at some point and I don't wanna put up with you.
    3. I've danced for you before and you were too aggressive.
    3. I just get a "dirty licking perv" vibe from you - I'm NOT gonna put up with it.

    Think carefully, datchapin. Do you fall into any of those categories? Are you SURE? If not, then either you're lying or the other girls know you're a regular of that girl and it's a really catty club. Maybe you should try another club and see if the same thing happens - if it does, then I'm betting you fall into one of the 7 (3) categories above and should do something about it; if it doesn't, then it's the catty club thing and you should keep going to the new club

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    If you are tipping singles, then there's no way for the dancers to know you "have money in your pockets." The club is full of guys tipping singles and asking for dances and only so much time for the dancers to make choices and work the floor.

    If you really want attention, take another dancer with you to tip $20s at stage. Be clean, neat, attentive and funny. Smell good. Look good. Smile a lot and buy everybody drinks. Be an excellent host. In most cases, you won't have to ask, but if it comes down to it, by all means do.

    If none of this works, then Bridgette may be right. But sometimes dancers underappreciate how some well-meaning and polite guys, even those without a major payroll, get completely ignored for reasons that have everything to do with the club and nothing to do with them. So don't feel too bad about it.

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    ^^I took into account that it could just be the girls/club. Hence, the ending advice to try another club and if he doesn't get the same treatment there, to stick with that club instead. While most guys seem to get ignored because of something about themselves, it's not unusual for stupid club dynamics to cause a perfectly good customer to get ignored. So boys, if you don't fit into one of my categories above (check yourself, and your breath ), it's probably some stupid club crap - go elsewhere.

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    heh, maybe im a money hungry stripper but if you tipped me and *asked* for a dance, i would happily join you as soon as i stepped down. in fact, i would have to agree that it's probably the girls/club. or you smell. do you? (im betting its the girls at that club that arent bright enough to realize you have money to spend)

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    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    I start going to the second and third stages tipping and asking if they wanna sell me a dance. All the girls smile take my money and said they'll talk to me when they get done. So I go and sit back at my table in good faith.
    Keeeerist, it annoys me when this happens. Typically, this puts me ON the offensive. I know I smell good, so even the bridgettes should want my money... if not a long look at my hideous mug.

    There is almost always a reason, if it's not an overtly funked up temp trait like smell, it's probably because they noticed you asking a ton of other dancers for a dance. Typically this is minimally alerting to the dancer as in "Was he just being polite in asking me for a dance, well he'll approach again if he's serious"

    I, unlike some, have a very small money penis therefor I generally am watching my spending, I don't often get all out dances, but I do try to tip every girl on stage even if it is the sub par single. However, girls I want to chill with, I drop a bigger stage tip. This generally means a 10/20 at the stage. And if she doesn't mind my wife beater/running shorts, and the fact and the slight hint of BEN GAY in the air, she'll come see me.
    (Do I look poor? Is it cuz' I'm sitting by myself? Do I look too young? Have I been marked as belonging to somebody else?)
    Doubtful. I know you're REALLY asking the last question. Truth is, if your someone's regular, most clubs, other dancers will want to convert you to THEIR regular.
    (I swear I thought I was gonna beat his ass when I saw that.)
    Hmmm and now the problem begins to be seen. Scowl much? Sure you looked good, but no dancer wants to dance for someone who looks pissed.

    It does happen. Find you a dancer like Chrissy, who manages regulars to a financially lethal degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    the only thing i can think of (like jaizaine said) is that the girls are afraid to come between you and your regular dancer.
    Not that operative word. Some clubs value the Dancer/PL relationship with respect, some with fear, some with nothing at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    If you are tipping singles, then there's no way for the dancers to know you "have money in your pockets."
    Harsh truth. But truth. If the club makes money, and you're on the small end, you better make up for the lack of money with it's easy of achievement. In other words, 500 dollars (my general roll) can last you an evening of mediocre attention, or an hour of great attention. Or in my hands, it can last an evening of hilarious conversation with an immense apology for waisting time followed by me reminding the male bartender that "If I were a chick....*points* YOU."
    If you really want attention, take another dancer with you to tip $20s at stage. Be clean, neat, attentive and funny. Smell good. Look good. Smile a lot and buy everybody drinks. Be an excellent host.
    sans the buy everybody drinks, this all works. When you've earned too's bankroll you can spend as he does, but for now, yours and thusly my money is going in a dancers garter or to my liver. No one elses, unless he is REALLY cool.
    But sometimes dancers under appreciate how some well-meaning and polite guys, even those without a major payroll, get completely ignored for reasons that have everything to do with the club and nothing to do with them. So don't feel too bad about it.
    At least you acknowledge the major payroll, my most respected friend. Because I guarantee that even on MY bank roll, I am an AMAZING host. And put every thought forward into my guest, and I don't like the insinuation that my lack of currency prevents that possibility. HOWEVER I know you did not mean it in this fashion. But mark my words, one day, with no money from you, I'll take YOU out on a night on the town, and who knows, maybe YOU'll be the one writing the TR on the blue side about what you did to me in the seabring convertible outside the SC we just visited.

    OH god I need to bathe after saying that. But seriously... Nic. High fucking Five.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    heh, maybe im a money hungry stripper but if you tipped me and *asked* for a dance, i would happily join you as soon as i stepped down.
    I thought "money hungry" was in the Job Description. I dunno, you go above and beyond the call of duty from my understanding... however you also are very secure in who you are....biiiiigggg help. However, I would not blame it on dim witted dancers Miss Chrissy, a lot of dancers are tired of the 50-50 spread failing where they risk potential money on a nice talker that had none to begin with too much in one night thusly barely covering their house fees.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Think carefully, datchapin. Do you fall into any of those categories? Are you SURE? If not, then either you're lying or the other girls know you're a regular of that girl and it's a really catty club.
    BAM! when the girl with breasts barely almost collectively the size of her brain speaks.... you fight for eye contact and listen!

    And bridgette, I really think it has something to do with the asswuppin he was willing to deal to the guy who took his seat. Just a hunch....

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    I think a bad attitude/scowl falls under "you acted like an ass at some point"


    But, "even the bridgettes"...? I take this to mean you think I'm some kinda stuck up bitch of a stripper. Nah. I just don't put up with bullshit - what's the point? If I'm feeling repulsed by the dude's breath, body odour, greasy grimy clothes, bad attitude, incessant attempts to lick/poke me, I'm not gonna be able to provide the dude with a good time, so why bother?

    Take a shower, put on some clean clothes and deodorant, pop some mints or gum, employ a modicum of common courtesy and don't act like that $10 bill is the key to Trump Tower and you're golden with me

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    ^^ Naw I was just explaining how it's simple to equalize dancers. Sorry it came off in a negative ilk, Just, "as long as appear appropriatily EVEN the bridgettes (being the name of the person who listed off reasons why SHE SPECIFICALLY would waive off a custy) would want my money" You listed yourself specifically to a list of things that actually a broader base of people would agree with....thus the "Bridgettes"
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    I understood that. But "the bridgettes" kinda sounded a lil bitchy in your post

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    p-shaw. You know me better than this! Naw No bitching.

    I don't think anyone here would disagree with your list though.

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    Fuck you. I was stuck sleeping here at home

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    i thought of something else that it might be - im just using my personal experience. i am a bit of a fraiddy-cat as im still quite new to dancing and i definately don't approach half of the guys who i probably should approach and like Mas said if u look angry i def would not approach.
    i generally approach guys who are looking at me and sometimes approach guys who arent but i never approach a guy with negative body language - crossed arms, sulky face - it generally makes me think that they would rather be left alone.

    i haven't come across many smelly customers - most seem to be wearing cologne but i dont think that would put me off anyway as i work in an air dance club so i dont have to smell breath or body odour during the dance.

    however, if u had actually asked me personally to dance for u i would definately be coming back after my stage set to do just that. geez i love it when customers ask me for a dance coz 95% of the time it's me asking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Fuck you. I was stuck sleeping here at home
    Well I slept alone? Handy McSweety had a headache.
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    or...MAYBE I SMELL.



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    Where are you in the club? Like can they see you? Do you walk up to the stage, ask for a dance and then hide in a corner where nobody can find you? The onloy reason I would be working the floor after selling a dance is if I had thought you left or we had an established relationship of me hating you. If it was the latter I probably would have said something to that effect when you asked (Gosh, I'm sorry, I can't - I just hate you too much. I'm kidding, I wouldn't phrase it like that. But I might say that I was really busy that night and not to expect me).
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    Default Re: Dancers waving you off.

    If its any consolation to the OP, he's not alone in this observation.

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72734

    Just a guess here. Considering last night was a Tuesday, was the club at least semi-dead?

    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    So I'm thinking, whatever, I brought money to blow, might as well blow it. So I sit down and watch the girls and the game. Whenever I see a girl I like I go up and tip. Anyways after a while no girls approach me. So I'm thinking maybe I gotta be more direct.
    Good thinking. More direct is good.

    I'm not about to harass them for a dance.
    Why not? That's about as direct as one can get.

    However a song or two later I see them walking around trying to sell dances or whatnot and they see me, but never come up to me. I'm sitting there with some money in my pockets all these crazy thoughts going through my mind. (Do I look poor? Is it cuz' I'm sitting by myself? Do I look too young? Have I been marked as belonging to somebody else?)
    Seems like your club, like a lot of clubs, has a chronic case of "regular-itis". A disease where dancers for whatever unexplainable reason would rather sit with some clingy often low-to-zero spending regular than hustle the floor for more lucrative prospects. I've experienced this many a time myself, and all I can conclude is the best antedote for it is explicitly announcing your intentions. Unlike your fave, these other gals don't have a history with you, so you have to establish one.

    Yeah, it might dilute the whole "fantasy" (cough, cough) aspect a bit, but do you want your lap dances, or do you want to run your "the dancer should approach me" mantra into the ground? Its sad strip clubs have gotten to where "can I help you?" has become "can you help me?", but I've conceded fighting this trend out in the field has become too steep of an uphill battle.

    So when I haven't got one of the few professional dancers coming over who still realizes that its in her best interest to take the initative, I just go up to the gal on stage with a couple of bucks, and ask if she's free for dances when she's done. The hustle time saved will mean more to most dancers than a larger denomination tip.


    Then I go back to my table (clearly visible from the stage) and starting saying Hail Mary's in my head, hoping somewhere between the stage steps and my table that my lady of choice won't get lost, or led astray by a bum regular, the club drug dealer, another dancer who wants to go to the lazy dancer's table and smoke, or the Megatouch machine. God knows that they've all happened on a few occasions.
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    I start going to the second and third stages tipping and asking if they wanna sell me a dance. All the girls smile take my money and said they'll talk to me when they get done. So I go and sit back at my table in good faith.
    This has happened to me way too damn much in the last few months, and I'm pretty sure it's not because of my hygiene and/or demeanor. I mean, I still shower a couple times a month whether I need it or not. Sometimes I even use soap.

    I need to find a new home club.
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    CO, if this is happening to you with any regularity, I agree - find a new club.

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    I don't fall into most of the categories. 2 of those are outside my control so. Anyways I have no idea if I give off a "dirty licking vibe". I'll make sure to ask next time. I guess it is more common than I thought. This isn't the only club I frequent, but it is the only one where this happens to me. I sat in a visible area, actually sat in an area where you'd be blind not to see me actually.

    I don't remember where, but I heard that most girls don't always check the denomination of the bills they get so I just gave alot of singles each time I tipped. I thought it made sense cuz I didn't know girls could see the bills on their thongs or on the floor that well. J/K. I'll keep that in mind next time I go up there.

    The reason I wanted to beat the guys ass was exactly what Mast said (Who by the way I think verges on telepathic). The guy took my seat. No waitress stopped him from doing so and I was still within eyeshot from the stage to my table. I just thought that was messed up.

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    my vote is you being labeled as someone elses regular. there were some guys i didn't even look at at my old club because of who they belonged to.

    but your girl wasn't there and you did specifically *ask* girls to dance for you.

    of course, it was a full moon last night, so... yeah. you should probably just chalk it up to "weird shit happens".

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    If this is the only club where that happens to you, then go to another club. Plain and simple. You've apparently been labeled a regular of this particular girl at that club, and it's apparently one of the catty clubs I'm talking about. So just go somewhere else if your girl isn't at that club. Heck, you might even find a new favorite to spend your money on at the new club, and it might be more fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus View Post
    It does happen. Find you a dancer like Chrissy, who manages regulars to a financially lethal degree.
    i will take that as a compliment
    why thank ye.

    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    I don't remember where, but I heard that most girls don't always check the denomination of the bills they get so I just gave alot of singles each time I tipped. I thought it made sense cuz I didn't know girls could see the bills on their thongs or on the floor that well. J/K. I'll keep that in mind next time I go up there.
    imho, this is not a great way to say you are going to spend money. tip a ten or twenty. you put it btwn her boobs and she will SEE the denomination. or even better, HAND it to her. then she has to see it. but if you put it in her thong, she wont see it. a bunch of ones is... not the greatest way to say i have money to burn.
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    ^^Agreed about the $1s. Usually the guys who tip a bunch of ones are just acting the MTV video part and don't really have money to spend on dances. (It's different if they ask, but still) Best to just hand her a $5 or $10, IN HER HAND, and ask her to come for dances when she's done.

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