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    Default Woman suing Dept of Homeland Security over the murder of her son by illegal immigrant

    A woman is suing the Department of Homeland Security because her son was murdered by an illegal immigrant who should have been deported due to some of his prior behavior.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...4130-8942r.htm

    Damages of 100 million dollars are being requested, although from something I've heard on the radio, the Dept of Homeland Security is supposedly immune from such lawsuits.

    It's an interesting question, though, as to those people who are crime victims at the hands of some illegal aliens. Who should be held financially liable in such a case? The Federal Government in general? The Department of of Homeland Security? ICE? All of the above? None of the above?

    Personally, I do not believe the Dept of Homeland Security should have any immunity from such a lawsuit, since you can trace the death of three men back to something that Dept. simply ignored.
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    It's 100 mill in punitive damages. I thought it went state by state. You cannot file civil suit against an agency, you have to sue the individuals responsible, and you cannot sue a Judge.

    An agency being immune from a civil suit doesn't mean they aren't culpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    It's 100 mill in punitive damages. I thought it went state by state. You cannot file civil suit against an agency, you have to sue the individuals responsible, and you cannot sue a Judge.

    An agency being immune from a civil suit doesn't mean they aren't culpable.
    I don't know if this fits that criteria, but we sued the NJ DOT over my daughter and won recently. Isn't that considered an agency?

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    It's part of the open-border policy. Give us your tired, your poor, your murderers and drug dealers, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free of prisons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    It's 100 mill in punitive damages. I thought it went state by state. You cannot file civil suit against an agency, you have to sue the individuals responsible, and you cannot sue a Judge.

    An agency being immune from a civil suit doesn't mean they aren't culpable.
    Thank you for the clarification, although I still don't see why the Department of Homeland Security should not be held liable in this type of case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    They're too busy crucifying Border Patrol agents for trying to apprehend drug smugglers.

    It's part of the open-border policy. Give us your tired, your poor, your murderers and drug dealers, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free of prisons...
    I really have reached the point where I don't care about this regarding the tired and poor anymore, as long as they keep the murderers, rapists and violent gang members out of the U.S. - but it seems even this is way too much to expect from our current crop of politicians and bureaucrats.
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    They will never win that case.

    There have been other cases where people sued the police for not doing their job and were told the police are not obligated to do their job. It's on the internet someplace.

    Meanwhile:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel View Post
    I don't know if this fits that criteria, but we sued the NJ DOT over my daughter and won recently. Isn't that considered an agency?
    That's why I said state by state. I know in Texas you ccouldn't have sued TX DOT, but you can sue the person responsible, except for a judge.

    I don't know federal law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    That's why I said state by state. I know in Texas you ccouldn't have sued TX DOT, but you can sue the person responsible, except for a judge.

    I don't know federal law.
    Actually because of something called torts (not sure about spelling), there were things we should have sued for but because they had those in place, we couldn't.

    Wow, that sucks about Texas, I think it's like that in FL too.

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    So much for the war on drugs


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    Um, I have had some mighty fine home-grown in my day. Well, I didn't grow it, but still...

    It was a comment about the 2 officers getting arrested for butt-shooting a drug smuggler who LEFT HIS DRUGS INSIDE THE BORDER AND RAN, then the smuggler gets immunity for cooperating in the investigation on the officers. Just a LITTLE backwards there, eh?

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    suing the Dept of Homeland security or ANY government agency etc is pointless. Those responsible aren't impacted in anyway and YOU the taxpayer just increased everyone elses tax bills. Thats the problem with government(especially government by appointment), theres no real accountability. Give it 20 or so more years, then the revolution will begin. Thats the only way to have real change.

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    If this woman can win this case. Than what about all the people who list ehier love ones because of sept. 11. I believe some of those guys visa was up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son View Post
    suing the Dept of Homeland security or ANY government agency etc is pointless. Those responsible aren't impacted in anyway and YOU the taxpayer just increased everyone elses tax bills. Thats the problem with government(especially government by appointment), theres no real accountability. Give it 20 or so more years, then the revolution will begin. Thats the only way to have real change.

    The revolution began on April 19th 1995.

    It's just on hold right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Um, I have had some mighty fine home-grown in my day. Well, I didn't grow it, but still...

    It was a comment about the 2 officers getting arrested for butt-shooting a drug smuggler who LEFT HIS DRUGS INSIDE THE BORDER AND RAN, then the smuggler gets immunity for cooperating in the investigation on the officers. Just a LITTLE backwards there, eh?
    Yeah, I read about that case. That one was screwy. I mean the cops didn't do things the way they were supossed to but I didn't agree with the smuggler getting immunity either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    The revolution began on April 19th 1995.

    It's just on hold right now.

    What happened on that day?
    The essential humanity of men can be protected and preserved only where government must answer--not just to the wealthy, not just to those of a particular religion, or a particular race, but to all its people.

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    ah-ha, thanks Pan Dah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tara Nicole View Post
    Yeah, I read about that case. That one was screwy. I mean the cops didn't do things the way they were supossed to but I didn't agree with the smuggler getting immunity either.
    Didn't do things like "not chase criminals."

    There are so many things broken in this country from New Orleans to Power outages weeks at a time to no border security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan Dah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tara Nicole View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    The revolution began on April 19th 1995.

    It's just on hold right now.
    What happened on that day?
    Oklahoma City


    Actually PanDah thats just a coincidence. What deogol was reffering to was Georgia declaring April 19, 1995 Johnny Mercer day.

    http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/1...text/hr435.htm

    Clearly you can imagine the uproar and subsiquent revolution this sparked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sander8son View Post
    Actually PanDah thats just a coincidence. What deogol was reffering to was Georgia declaring April 19, 1995 Johnny Mercer day.



    Clearly you can imagine the uproar and subsiquent revolution this sparked.

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