^^ yes our club plays a code song. They were in last night.




^^ yes our club plays a code song. They were in last night.
Yeah, word had it that yesterday, vice was gallavanting around SD. There as a rumor that vice was in my club yesterday too. But they didn't try and do anything. (No dances...nothing).
Oncer at my old club I sat with a guy who was on his cell phone talking about "tickets:. Once he got off his phone, he felt the need to explain to me that he was talking about SD Chargers tickets. I was like, why does this guy feel the need to explain this to me? Then I got the feeling he was a cop, and I was right. He busted a girl sure enough.
Vice seem to ask the "where can I get sex/drugs" question, or they provoke you to be dirty for more money, or what have you. Usually I'll just get an intuitive ""hit" when someone is a vice cop.





you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi





At least in Indiana, prostitution is a tough charge to make stick. The police have to prove an agreement to perform sex or deviant conduct for money. So, they almost never charge anyone who is not a street walking prostitute with prostitution. When clubs do get raided it is usually indecency that gets the criminal charges. Indiana is incredibly tight on what is indecent. By the letter of the law, t-bars and thongs are not sufficient covering. Your butt has to be fully covered! So, most of my bikinis are illegal in Indiana. And a lot more likely to get me in trouble at home than dancing. LOL!





well, lets just say that it was south of the 'Bible Belt'. Such election year busts are relatively easy when the girl happens to be a feature from New York, which leads to juicy local headlines - I think it was " Big Bust Bust ", with my picture on page 1 right next to the local politicians running for election !Where was this?
oh I would have been whisked straight out of the local courtroom and off to the county lockup if I had not immediately filed for appeal ... which allowed my bail to be continued during the appeals process and stayed the local judge from immediately imposing his sentence.I take it his sentencing didn't stick about the lockup?
However, being able to do this meant that advance preparations had to have taken place between myself and my local attorney in the event of a loss in local court - i.e. my having the $5000 in ready cash to cover the additional attorney's fees necessary to file at the appellate level. Had I been using a public defender, or had I only paid the local attorney enough money to cover legal fees for the local court case, no immediate appeal would have been possible, and the local judge's sentence would have taken effect immediately. In that event I could have filed an appeal later to have the bogus charge removed from my record, but I would have already served the jail time as a result of the local judge's sentence.
Again, the moral of the story is that 'having your day in court' involves a fair amount of additional risk versus accepting a plea bargain, paying the fine, and being right back at work the next night. I can't recommend going to trial in a local court unless you are (financially and legally) prepared to file an appeal, since the odds of losing your local court case are probably 90+% . At the local level, 'innocent until proven guilty' doesn't count for much.
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North Carolina, where I live now says prostitution is offering the body for hire. Again, there has to be proof of an agreement to pay. That is a little less difficult to prove than Indiana's rule. But, a friend of mine who is a cop says in practice it is all but impossible to prove unless the cop actually paid for sex. Raleigh has had only a few people convicted of prostitution over the time I have lived here, and in Durham, they went for over two years without arresting anyone for prostitution! (Rumor has it that the biggest prostitution ring in Durham was run by cops out of the main cop shop.) What they do in North Carolina is use civil process against the club if things get too out of hand. Two clubs in Durham and one in Graham were shut down by lawsuits charging them with being a common nuisance.





^^^ agreed that there are huge variations from state to state, and even from city to city in the same state, in regard to interpretation and enforcement.
Actually, this is one of the biggest problems for a 'travelling dancer' ... because it's virtually impossible to research this stuff in advance. You also can't trust the fact that 'club rules', or nightly routine club contact levels, are actually within the local law !





You definitely cannot trust club rules. I danced at one club in Indy where they strictly enforced the pastie rule, and another club down the street owned by the same people did not. If you only danced at one club, you could definitely get the impression that pasties were, or were not required in Indiana. (They are, but only the ABC police seem to care and only if they cannot nail the club for some sort of tax violation.) The same is true of thongs and T-bars. I got busted at a public pool back home for wearing a thong! A thong that covered a whole lot more than most of my old dancer g-strings. G-strings that plenty of cops had seen. Yet the lifeguard and pool manager in Greenwood made me leave until I had covered up my nudity! I mean it was even lined, not some Wicked Weasel.


I think sometimes its easy to tell an undercover cop, I asusme they ask more questions and the questions seem too obvious...something that a normal cusotmer would;nt ask like...."what goes on in those rooms over there, any extras"?
With pimps they tend to hang out in the clubs where prostitution is common place like Niagara Falls, Canada, there are so many of them, there they cater to the girls in the biz with no self esteem or down on their luck and needy. They make me sick how they scan the room for girls and try to prey on the ones who are having a bad night to try to recruit them.
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