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    Hmm. from what some my traveling dancer friends told me about that club I am surprised this didn't happen earlier.... it sucks for the girls who were working there though... especially those who were NOT doing illegal things.
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    Apparently the DA decided to go on a 'mission' to clean up Memphis clubs - which from a pragmatic standpoint makes no sense whatsoever given that Memphis is a huge tourist town. This won't be the first or the last time a DA gets a bug up his ass, unfortunately ...

    it sucks for the girls who were working there though... especially those who were NOT doing illegal things
    yes, as long as these clubs stay closed it is going to be difficult for ex-dancers with prostitution busts now on their criminal records to come up with decent paying 'straight' jobs for sure. Ironically, in all probability the girls that actually were doing HJ's BJ's etc. are now in a better financial position to hire their own attorneys and thus are in a better position to ultimately beat a prostitution charge. On the other hand the 'clean' dancers, whose pre-bust club earnings potential was probably significantly lower because they were NOT collecting big tips for doing HJ's BJ's etc. , will probably find themselves unable to afford their own attorney and thus stuck with a public defender or stuck being represented by the club's attorney thus they'll be lucky to get a plea bargain deal and a black mark for something or other on their permanent record despite the fact that they aren't actually guilty (a fact which will be impossible to prove in local court of course).

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    1 or 2 things to keep in mind: Prostitution busts are easy.Convictions are not.But, and this is a BIG "but" you have to be willing & able ( to afford a GOOD lawyer) to fight it out. Unless a "uc" has you on tape, it's your word against his AND entrapment is a valid defense.Usually 1st-timers get off with probation and/or a fine so long as drugs are NOT involved. Add in drug possession or sale and you are looking at a serious misdemeanor ( usually Class-A ) or even a felony. It's usually drugs, a lot more than extras that generate trouble.

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    I remember when Larry Parrish pulled this shit in the 1990's. Prostitution spiked elsewhere in the city because the women had nowhere to work. Every club in town was closed for two weeks. Eventually it came out that Parrish was being funded by his church group, and various other church groups were responsible for the closings as well. The clubs were allowed to reopen on First Amendment grounds.

    Parrish is also the same lawyer who went after all those porn stars in the infamous 1970's "Deep Throat" trials. Instead of going after the producers, he dug up dozens of porn stars (including women who had just done one or two movies to get out of poverty) and made them describe every intimate sex act they'd ever done, on- or off-camera.

    And then about five years ago, he represented a wealthy Baptist family who kidnapped a Chinese baby from her destitute parents in Memphis. The court allowed the child to remain with the rich Baptists because they were Christians; the judge felt that poor, atheist parents wouldn't be able to give the child a decent upbringing. The baby's name was Anna Mae He; Google that name if you want to get your blood boiling.

    Larry Parrish is one of the most foul and disgusting scumbag lawyers that has ever darkened the surface of this planet. I'd be willing to bet that he and his church group are behind this too.

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    I was there in 1996 when the clubs were shut and I went to Nashville rather than hooking, hah. Sucked, though; I was having a lovely summer in Memphis doing nothing more than really, really good lapdances for really, really good money ($30-$50 @).

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    The "He" case is on appeal to the Supreme Court of Tennessee.Blaming Parrish or the result so far is like blaming Cochran for O.J.'s acquittal.He is a lawyer.He has a duty to be a zealous advocate for his clients.The real fault is with the Crcuit Judge & Apellate Court who ignored both the facts & the law. An "oral" areement to give up a child ? No such animal. The Statute of Frauds codified in almost every state ( except maybe La.) requires that any such agreement be written, but we digress.

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    I've been following Larry Parrish since I was in high school. Trust me, he is not innocent on any count. No honest lawyer would've taken the Bakers' case, but yeah, Anna Mae He is another thread entirely.

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    Prostitution busts are easy.Convictions are not.But, and this is a BIG "but" you have to be willing & able ( to afford a GOOD lawyer) to fight it out. Unless a "uc" has you on tape, it's your word against his AND entrapment is a valid defense
    I can tell you from bitter personal experience that you are absolutely correct on having to hire your own GOOD lawyer. Because the lack of hard evidence does result in what local judges and juries view as the word of a fine upstanding local police officer versus the word of a drug addicted, lying, thieving, whoring 'stripper' who would say or do anything to benefit herself, any dancer busted for prostitution is likely to be found guilty by a local court. The only exception seems to be the existance of club security tapes which show the dancer in question was NOT making contact with customers / the undercover cop.

    Absent the existance of such exculpatory evidence (and practically no clubs record and keep private dance surveillance videos with this level of detail) in order to prove her innocence, she must appeal her case to the appelate court level - where there is no bible-thumping jury, and where evidence (or lack thereof) is actually of paramount importance to the judges. But filing an appeal, at a minimum, will set a dancer back 5 grand - which she won't get any of that money back regardless of how the appeal is decided ! The last time I had to deal with a 'bogus' bust, it wound up costing me almost 10 grand to prove my innocence on appeal, with travel expenses for court appearances and lost income factored on top of the legal fees.

    Because most 'clean' dancers usually don't have 5 grand laying around, they're usually stuck with making a decision to accept a plea-bargain deal (which involves an admission of guilt in exchange for a guarantee of no jail time) brokered by either the club's attorney or by a public defender, or risking going to trial in a local courtroom and having the book thrown at them by the judge after the bible thumping jury returns a guilty verdict regardless of the lack of hard evidence (translation - spending a week or two in the county lockup ... usually 1/2 of the maximum penalty allowed under state law ). Most seasoned dancers are intelligent enough to figure out that they can't afford to take that risk (not to mention a week or two of lost earnings), and take the deal instead - especially if the clubowner throws in a 'sweetener' of paying her fine if she'll accept the plea bargain. The clubowner and club's attorney, of course, have a vested interest in arranging plea bargains for busted dancers, since the equivalent guilty pleas make the DA and local politicians happy and usually result in no serious charges actually being leveled against the clubowner in exchange for their 'help'.

    However accepting a plea-bargain is legally equivalent to being found guilty, and the dancer's permanent record will reflect that fact. Also, if ever busted again, the plea bargain counts as a prior offense.
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    I dont know if there is dirty cop/lawyer stuff going on or not but I can say this. I have beento Memphis. I have seen what goes onin the clubs there. If you are a clean dancer you probably are not working in Memphis. Not saying all the girls there are prostitutes, but a good majority are. Platinum Plus needed to be shut down. it wasnt a dance club, it was a brothel. I have had lots of girls tell me you dont have to do all that to make money there, but that isnt what I saw first hand.
    As far as the club goes. i dont know if they were doing all the other things that they are being charged with, but it wouldnt surprise me. From what I saw when I was there, no respectable person would work for Platinum Plus. There were drugs all over the dressing room, they were not even trying to hide it. Same thing with the prostitution in the lap dance area. There were obvious pimps all over the club. Old school style, im talking canes, fur coats and top hats. lol.
    This does not surprise me at all. As far as the girls go. I dont really feel sorry for them. This isnt the first time this has happened and working in a place like that you have to know that it will happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    If you are a clean dancer you probably are not working in Memphis.
    I beg to differ, Lady. I realize that no one was calling me out since I mostly only lurk here at Stripperweb, but *I* am a clean dancer and worked for two and a half years at Platinum Plus in Memphis. There are others who also managed it. We avoided the unpleantries of drugs and pimps and fucking and sucking in the VIP area by working less popular shifts. We knew we were making less money than others doing more, but it's the biggest club in town with the most amount of traffic for dayshift/midshift.

    Making such a broad statement when there are literally hundreds of women working the place is more than a bit callous....

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    Amberlily,
    I am sorry if I offended you. That was not my intention at all. I was merely trying to make the point that clubs in Memphis are known for being dirty. Like I said before, just because you work in Memphis does not mean that you are up to all that, and I was in no way trying to say that you are, but the fact remains the same, that it is a part of the memphis clubs. A very big part. I have been to Memphis several times, not to work, and although I did not see EVERY girl doing all that, I did see a whole lot of it from a whole lot of girls. To be perfectly honest, I do not believe I witnessed a single "clean" dance any time I have ever been to a memphis club. That is not saying they do not happen. I am sure they happen often.
    I am sorry that the club that you work got shut down becuase of others. not that it is your fault, but I do not feel sorry for you because you did put yourself in that situation, knowing you were working at a club like that. I would advise any girls that work in clubs that are iffy, especially ones that are known for it, to do their best to find a different club pronto. I realize in memphis there are not many choices for decent places to work at. You could hardly call The King of Clubs a good alternative, lol. but there are other places to go that are easier on girls in the industry. You may not make the money that you make at PP, but you also dont have to worry about being arrested, and your club getting shut down.
    Please do not take this as a personal attack. A long time ago I went there to work, i ended up being there less than an hour I think as I had a very bad experiance. So I have a strong bias opinion.
    I just wish girls would be careful about the places they work, and do everything they can to keep from working in less than satisfactory environments, and especially in unsafe environments.
    I wish you the best of luck Amberlily and hope that you find a good club to work at soon. I live on the west side of Arkansas and know most of the clubs near hear, from hear, to Memphis, to Dallas ... I have been to a lot of them. If you dont know other clubs that you can go to, pm me and I would be happy to give you a few suggestions.
    I hope you were not working when this all took place, the article said Sat night, you said you dont work the popular shifts, so you probably were not there.
    If you dont mind me asking, since they are shut down, where do you plan on going? Do you know what some of the other girls have planned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    If you are a clean dancer you probably are not working in Memphis...... [snip] ........ Not saying all the girls there are prostitutes, but a good majority are.
    Clearly, Lady wasn't saying that ALL girls at PP were hos. Just that MOST were. According to the rep this place has, I'd say those are fair statements. So I see no need for people to come on defending themselves here. If you were only dancing there, you don't need to take exception. Nobody said it was 100%. Besides, we all know there's no 100%

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    I have to agree with Lady. I feel bad for the very few clean dancers that doubtless worked at Platinum, but yeah, that place was out of control. Full-on sex right there in the public lapdance room, encouraged by the management, was the norm whenever I've been there. And I remember needing the bathroom once and finding about a dozen girls in there chopping lines on the counter right out in the open. It was such a brazen whorehouse! But that was its charm...

    I still don't agree with shutting it down permanently though. Platinum Plus does MAJOR business - the place is packed with several hundred people every night! Clearly the market exists, so leave them alone. They're not hurting anybody.

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    Memphis clubs have the "reputation" of being brothels.So do many So.Fla. clubs.;Houston clubs & Montreal clubs. The reality is often somewhat different.

    Larry Parrish is a horse's ASS ! No doubt & no dispute. He took on clients that many lawyers would not touch and yet that is one of the ethical pillars of his profession- to take on the unpopular or unsavory client; to argue the unpopular case; to represent the "guilty".

    Melonie is correct up to a point.BEFORE a criminal case goes to trial it has to survive either a preliminary hearing or motion to dismiss where the prosecution must lay out ALL of its evidence to a judge sitting w/o a jury. A good lawyer can & will barbecue the undercover cop.One of the funniest things I ever read was the transcript of a uc's testimony in a prostitution case.The proper English that he claimed he and the woman exchanged alone was beyond any credibility. The REAL problem is the scare tactics employed by the prosecutor and the expense of fighting off the charge.It can often be ten times the fine.Sometimes more. And, as I said, IF drugs are involved= All bets are off.

    This stuff is ALL political. When it's an election year for the mayor, D.A., local sheriff etc. you often see a rash of crackdowns.
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    I had to agree with Lady and Yek, that club was very crazy. Girls did anything and everything with anybody who had the money. Drugs were everywhere, and there were no attempts to hide them from anybody. If you were a clean dancer, you were in the minority. Guys would come to Nashville from Memphis and get pissed that they "couldn't do in Nashville what they could do in Platinum Plus". They didn't even generalize, they straight up said it was PP. Too many guys from too many walks of life didn't make up the full service treatment they got there on a regular basis.


    We had a couple managers that would ask girls where they worked prior to coming to our club in Nashville, and if they said Memphis, or specifically PP, they would not even let them audition. Yes, it's sad, but that's the way it is.

    Do they need to be closed forever? Not my business to care either way. I don't work there, and it doesn't affect me. But I do feel bad for the clean girls that worked there.

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    Are they shutting down ALL of the Platinum Plus clubs everywhere or just the Memphis one?

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    See .. now I have to explain. I have a great interest in seeing them shut down as i work n neighboring Arkansas and SO many custys pull the .. I can go to Memphis and get ... bla bla bla .. So now when they say all that .. i can say .. Nope .. not any more. They go closed down. you are stuck with me and my clean dances or none at all. hahaha.

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    LADY- If you REALLY think you are getting the last laugh you are very much mistaken. They shut down one club in Memphis; just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    See .. now I have to explain. I have a great interest in seeing them shut down as i work n neighboring Arkansas and SO many custys pull the .. I can go to Memphis and get ... bla bla bla .. So now when they say all that .. i can say .. Nope .. not any more. They go closed down. you are stuck with me and my clean dances or none at all. hahaha.

    They would say that to you too?? I hated that shit! So I guess Nashville and your part of Arkansas were in the same boat, guys wanted more than we were willing to give due to the full service they got in Memphis.

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    i worked there in the late 90's it was wild then. i heard it was out of control now. not surprised at this.
    odd that i had just read an extensive article about a week before about all the 'players' in the memphis strip club game. now this.. hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    I have to agree with Lady. I feel bad for the very few clean dancers that doubtless worked at Platinum, but yeah, that place was out of control. Full-on sex right there in the public lapdance room, encouraged by the management, was the norm whenever I've been there. And I remember needing the bathroom once and finding about a dozen girls in there chopping lines on the counter right out in the open.
    Yup, that is almost word for word the way the club has been described to me by numerous people. It was a massive bust just screaming to happen from what I know of the place.
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    well when i was there they at least were discreet. i saw it one time. a girl giving head. i also saw a guy kicked out for taking it out. so dunno guess it really had changed

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