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    No matches.

    They did find that she had sex before the meeting, and traces of DNA were found...but not from any Duke lacrosse players.

    This DA and the accuser should be thrown in prison.

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/13/D8M06HMG0.html

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    Fuck that makes me mad. Stupid bitch. Fucking it all up for legitimate complainants.

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    I'm all for promiscuity, but when I initially heard this earlier today, I thought they found semen from SEVERAL men inside of her. Maybe it's inaccurate, but I do think that charges should be filed against her.

    (Before anyone goes against it, saying that maybe they used condons, etc...according to the report I heard on WLS-AM Chicago, she has initially testified or claimed they they did not use condoms. I'm sorry, but then there would have been some DNA inside of her.)






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    OMG, I wanna choke this bitch right now...
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    Well, this is no surprise. Probably half or more of all rape charges are falsified. And the accuser here, a Black stripper named Crystal Gail Mangum, has a history of crying wolf.

    The REAL victims here are all the falsely-accused men - who were all pronounced guilty until proven innocent in today's anti-male world. Despite the fact that Crystal's story had more holes than a fishnet stocking.
    investigation has led to the indictment of three members of the lacrosse team. David Evans, Reade Seligmann, and Collin Finnerty have been charged with first degree forcible rape, first degree sexual offense, and kidnapping. Duke's nationally ranked lacrosse team's season was suspended for the rest of the season as a result.
    Sadly, these guys will not get an apology, much less restitution for their complete victimization by this conniving ho and our naive legal system.

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    ^ The legal system was just as conniving as the "ho." It's the general public that's naive.

    Thanks, Crystal, for making it EVEN HARDER for actual victims to prove their case!

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    Fuck that makes me mad. Stupid bitch. Fucking it all up for legitimate complainants.
    This is indeed half of the tragedy, especially poignant with regard to strippers and sex workers more broadly. It increases the threat from predators and decreases the likelihood that victims will come forward to law enforcement.

    The other half of the tragedy is that once you're accused of being a sex offender in this country, your life is pretty much ruined. To whom do the men in this case see about getting their reputations back? As always, the media won't be around for that retraction.
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    Isn't it illegal to file a false complaint...and then commit perjury during trial?

    I wonder if the ever-so-generous Jessie Jackson is going to foot her defense bill.

    She should be made to repay the legal fees of the defendants and the court costs, etc.

    The prosecutor et al should also be hit with some hefty charges.

    Morons.

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    By the way, this is still going to trial. The DA is not dropping the charges.

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    ^ Are you kidding me?

    What basis does he think he has now? All of his "evidence" has been proven invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    ^ Are you kidding me?

    What basis does he think he has now? All of his "evidence" has been proven invalid.
    From the article...


    District Attorney Mike Nifong, who has generally refused to talk about the facts of the case since granting a flurry of interviews in the investigation's early days, did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Defense attorneys for Seligmann and Finnerity either declined comment or did not immediately return a message.


    Seligmann, Finnerty and Evans were indicted by a grand jury but have all strongly proclaimed their innocence. A trial is not expected to start until spring.

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    His paycheck should be docked to pay back the money that was wasted on this clown fest.

    Seriously.

    And why aren't the locals raising a fit? This affects THEIR taxes...

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    Well...not to raise a firestorm...

    This is in a heavily black area. There is a feeling that the DA is going hard after this so that he'll look good to black voters, or at least not appear to be taking it easy on a bunch of rich white kids.

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    It would be one thing if there was evidence to support the charges...but there's not. So, based upon the "victims" word...who has been proven to be a liar, etc...they're going to press charges against 3 guys so he can get more black votes?

    Bullshit. Dock his pay! Dock his Pay!! Then give him some jail time...along with the accuser.

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    Just because it wasn't someone on the team (and even that's doubtful; these guys have money) doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I'm sure there were a lot of guys at the party. She wouldn't have been in any position to tell who was on the team and who wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykat88 View Post
    ^ The legal system was just as conniving as the "ho." It's the general public that's naive.

    Thanks, Crystal, for making it EVEN HARDER for actual victims to prove their case!
    And even harder for strippers to claim rape against customers.


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    Seriously? Damn her! People that really are raped have it hard enough, having a case this high profile turn out to not be the way she claimed doesn't help the real victims.



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    The thing about prosecutors is...they are kind of bullet-proof. Unless they break the law or blatantly do something really illegal, the only way to get rid of elected ones is to vote them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    ^ Are you kidding me?

    What basis does he think he has now? All of his "evidence" has been proven invalid.
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    Just because it wasn't someone on the team (and even that's doubtful; these guys have money) doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I'm sure there were a lot of guys at the party. She wouldn't have been in any position to tell who was on the team and who wasn't.
    From what I've read, only players were there, and all players were tested. She said a condom was not used.

    Only a complete moron would convict these guys based on the evidence that has been publicly released.

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    That sucks. But most rapes aren't reported, and most statistics about rape are holey.
    http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_rapequiz_en.html

    Today's anti-male world? Did a woman just become president? Or even president of Time-Warner? Is there a persecution complex in the room?

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    Well, this is no surprise. Probably half or more of all rape charges are falsified. And the accuser here, a Black stripper named Crystal Gail Mangum, has a history of crying wolf.

    The REAL victims here are all the falsely-accused men - who were all pronounced guilty until proven innocent in today's anti-male world. Despite the fact that Crystal's story had more holes than a fishnet stocking.
    Sadly, these guys will not get an apology, much less restitution for their complete victimization by this conniving ho and our naive legal system.
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    I agree they can't be convicted based on this, but I wouldn't support charging her. The chance still exists that she was horribly victimized; charging her would be taking a really awful chance.

    These guys had money and good lawyers. They're not proven guilty, but as far as I'm concerned, they're not proven innocent either. I don't think she would've said the things she said, and I don't think the nurse would've verified her story, if it was all just bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    I agree they can't be convicted based on this, but I wouldn't support charging her. The chance still exists that she was horribly victimized; charging her would be taking a really awful chance.

    These guys had money and good lawyers. They're not proven guilty, but as far as I'm concerned, they're not proven innocent either. I don't think she would've said the things she said, and I don't think the nurse would've verified her story, if it was all just bullshit.
    When I said my mum's fiancee was molesting me, nobody believed me and said I lied. It's hard to prove molestation anyway...

    But you have me thinking about one thing.

    When my mum told my psychiatrist she didn't believe me, the psychiatrist turned to her and said,

    "Even if she was lying, and I am not saying she is - what is her reason for it?"

    Meaning, my mum should kick him out purely because I didn't like him in some form or another because EVEN IF I did lie, wouldn't I need a reason? Something terrible that happened that I didn't say?

    So even so.. what's the reason?


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    Exactly. You don't leave an expensive pair of shoes and half your broken fingernails behind if nothing happened, and you don't show up damaged at the ER either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo Weldon View Post
    That sucks. But most rapes aren't reported, and most statistics about rape are holey.
    http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_rapequiz_en.html

    Today's anti-male world? Did a woman just become president? Or even president of Time-Warner? Is there a persecution complex in the room?
    I agree, all those "rape stats" in your link are undocumented and extremely holey.

    And men can be just as anti-male as any women can - especially those in power who are all working towards the common agenda of destroying the American family to replace it with a global Socialist state. Feminists (male or female) are just tools in this underlying covert path towards the NW0.

    Fact is, men DO suffer a lot of discrimination and popular anti-male bias today and this was NEVER really a "man's world" to begin with. Men were simply expected to take more responsibility in leadership and sacrifice - especially in wartime. Bitter feminists just spun this as "oppressive power-mongering" decades later instead. Yea, you're real "oppressive" when you're dying on the battlefield defending these byches' freedom to fight you back at home!

    And as far as this accuser, just take a look at her rap sheet:
    * DNA results revealed that the woman had sex with a man who was not a Duke lacrosse player. Attorney Joseph Cheshire said the tests indicated DNA from a "single male source" came from a vaginal swab taken from the accuser. Media outlets reported that this DNA was from her boyfriend.[15]

    * She was convicted of stealing a car and sentenced to 3 weekends in detention. (In 2002, she stole a taxi from a man to whom she was giving a lap dance. A high speed chase then ensued, and when the deputy chasing her approached the stolen taxi on foot, she tried to run over him. She pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of larceny, speeding to elude arrest, assault on a government official and driving while impaired.)[16]Criminal record

    * She had made a similar claim in the past which she did not pursue. "On Aug. 18, 1996, the dancer - then 18 years old - told a police officer in Creedmoor she had been raped by three men in June 1993, according to a police document. She did not pursue the allegations. The officer who took the woman's report 10 years ago asked her to write a detailed timeline of the night's events and bring the account back to the police. "Apparently she never returned," Granville County DA Sam Currin said."[17]

    * The accuser told authorities that in 1998, her husband threatened to kill her. However, she did not appear at the court hearing and thus the charges were dropped.[18]

    * The accuser frequently passed out while performing as an exotic dancer at the Platinum Club in Hillsborough, according to the former club manager. The former manager also stated that Mangum had to be dragged out of the establishment onto gravel either one or two nights prior to the March 13 party. "She was heavy. It took four or five of us to carry her outside. She was dead weight. That's how passed out she was. She never woke up. We could have put the scratches on her. That could be how she got them."[19] The former manager went on to describe the accuser as "a club employee whose problems with other dancers and customers sometimes made it hard for her to make money," citing an event in which she started to pull a female customer's hair.[20]

    * According to the Platinum Club owner, the accuser danced at the club on March 23, 24, and 25. Those were the same dates she told doctors she was "in excruciating pain from the [...] beating." The owner said the accuser did not say anything about being raped 10 days earlier.[21] Similarly, 60 Minutes released a video of her allegedly dancing at the club less than two weeks after the alleged incident, again raising doubts as to how "traumatized" she actually was.[22]

    * The strip club's security officer said that the accuser told co-workers four days after the alleged incident that she "was going to get money from some boys at a Duke party who hadn't paid her," adding that she essentially said, "I'm going to get paid by the white boys." The security guard did not make a big deal of it "because no one takes her seriously."
    Obviously, she's a habitual pathological liar. And this is just more of the same...

    Too bad a whole collegiate sports team had to pay for her lies this time. Wow, will this lady ever stop? Guess not, since she can just get away with it time and time again...because a female crying rape is like a baby crying in this society. Administer SYMPATHY ASAP...NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

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    Yours are no better, that's my point.

    I'm annoyed by anti-male feminists myself, and I've said the same thing about soldiers, but you're...ah...oh, never mind. Sorry I got sucked in.

    Quote Originally Posted by forcefit View Post
    I agree, all those "rape stats" in your link are undocumented and extremely holey.

    And men can be just as anti-male as any women can - especially those in power who are all working towards the common agenda of destroying the American family to replace it with a global Socialist state. Feminists (male or female) are just tools in this underlying covert path towards the NW0.

    Fact is, men DO suffer a lot of discrimination and popular anti-male bias today and this was NEVER really a "man's world" to begin with. Men were simply expected to take more responsibility in leadership and sacrifice - especially in wartime. Bitter feminists just spun this as "oppressive power-mongering" decades later instead. Yea, you're real "oppressive" when you're dying on the battlefield defending these byches' freedom to fight you back at home!

    And as far as this accuser, just take a look at her rap sheet:
    Obviously, she's a habitual pathological liar. And this is just more of the same...

    Too bad a whole collegiate sports team had to pay for her lies this time. Wow, will this lady ever stop? Guess not, since she can just get away with it time and time again...because a female crying rape is like a baby crying in this society. Administer SYMPATHY ASAP...NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
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