Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 57

Thread: Strategic Customer plants?

  1. #1
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    67
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Strategic Customer plants?

    Here is a little something I was wondering about - well, maybe not quite wondering, but rather suspect and deduce to be true and just want a little confirmation on it.

    Naturally I'm not naming club names because it might be detreimental, but I want to know....

    Do clubs have these guys that they hire, that look like the standard, regular, average guy that would never be able to get a hot, tight stripper-type woman...the kind of guy that one would expect to have to come to a strip club to get anywhere near having a hot sexual goddess rub their boobs, ass, cooter in their face?

    I remember seeing in a few clubs over the course of a week, a regular average guy in the front row of the runway stage that a few of the girls would just go totally crazy on and he is the only one they do that to. It was full nudity, and they would wrap their legs around his head, and pull his face right into their crotch and ride his face right in the sweet spot, that he knows whether or not you have a vitamin deficiency or not, for like 10-15 seconds of the song, and Im like, fuck, get outta my way, I wanna get up in the front row! but none of the girls ever did that to me in any of the clubs we visited that week - always to someone else and always to the same guy in the club that night.

    By the 3rd day of seeing this happen and never having it happen to me, I came to the realization that you girls or the clubs just hired some guy that you trusted to grind on his face during a number so that you look more hot and more crazy and try to get us suckers to pony up more $$$ in the hopes that you'd do that to us.

    So whats the story? is this guy a plant for the club or not?

  2. #2
    God/dess jaizaine's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    10,144
    Thanks
    328
    Thanked 219 Times in 133 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    i don't think this is right. it's probably a regular that they trust or someone that they know won't grab them and spends up big $$$$$$$

  3. #3
    Featured Member MadisonM's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,424
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    I definetely think that no club would hire guys for this- clubs are waaaaaay too cheap to want to do that, and there really is no reason to do that. Like jaizaine said, it's probably just a regular customer that spends a lot of money.
    Take the road less traveled- just make sure you have a map.

  4. #4
    God/dess Pretty_Penny's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Location
    your moms house
    Posts
    5,050
    Thanks
    269
    Thanked 648 Times in 256 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    i'm sure it's someone who spends big money there regularly. i've worked quite a few clubs and ive NEVER heard of them hiring people like that. the only time i've ever known a club to hire someone as a customer was to "secret shop" the girls.. see if any are offering extras and etc.

  5. #5
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    67
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    i don't think this is right. it's probably a regular that they trust or someone that they know won't grab them and spends up big $$$$$$$
    You damn straight its not right!!! I might accept your theory, if I ever saw the guy put up serious $$$$$$$$$, but only just a couple bucks - like he was challenging you girls to do something to get his money, but he never gave it up and he still got lots of facial action

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny View Post
    i'm sure it's someone who spends big money there regularly. i've worked quite a few clubs and ive NEVER heard of them hiring people like that. the only time i've ever known a club to hire someone as a customer was to "secret shop" the girls.. see if any are offering extras and etc.
    Again, I never saw him ponying up anything remotely like serious cash, but me and the gang were only trolling around the unnamed town for a week, it stands to reason that he could just be a regular who might have been light on cash that night, but because hes a regular, the girls still give him the sugar treatment and I wasnt going to be in town long enough to be a regular anywhere.

    I still call NO-FAIR! - I always come ready to properly support the hard working gals and Id be willing to put up the cash for a little sugar treatment like that without having to go through my wad a lot quicker in the lounge or even faster in the VIP room.

    Dont get me wrong ladies, I have no porblems dropping 50-75 worth of dances for the lounge and even more in the private VIP once in a while (depnding on how good a month ive had), but come on...hows about a little bit of saddle action for an occasional random non-regular? Sure you take a big chance on him being a deadbeat, but you also might get lucky and find a new high-roller

  6. #6
    God/dess Pretty_Penny's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Location
    your moms house
    Posts
    5,050
    Thanks
    269
    Thanked 648 Times in 256 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    ^ just because you didn't see him give money doesn't mean he didn't. he could be a regular who takes girls to VIP a lot and doesn't tip very big on stage.

  7. #7
    God/dess FBR's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2003
    Posts
    8,351
    Thanks
    85
    Thanked 342 Times in 244 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    I dont think egalitarianism is a big thing among strippers. If they are giving a guy what appears to be extraordinary attention, its probably because he has earned it somewhere along the line. If I were you, I'd dispense with the conspiracy theories and just pony up more money. Problem solved.

    FBR
    Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.

  8. #8
    God/dess jaizaine's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    10,144
    Thanks
    328
    Thanked 219 Times in 133 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    well i wouldnt straddle any mans face (except my boyfriends) no matter what $$$$ u are offering.
    but if u want that kind of attention from girls at a club that does offer that kind of thing im thinking 50-75 is not going to cut it.

  9. #9
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    67
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    and Id agree with you if we were talking about the back lounge or the VIP, but Im talking about the runway here, which led me to believe its done as a setup and for nothing more than total shock value for get teh rest of the boys in the crowd hotting and digging deeper into their pockets.

    Also, Im not saying I was expecting it either, I just found it odd, risque behavior for exterior runway, and it just kept seeding the idea in the head that "Hey it could happen, lets just stay here a little longer"

    I dont think I ever spent so much time out on the runway stage before HAHAHAHA - I think that week was te longest, so I went back home real light in the wallet and kinda disappointed, seeing what there was out there in a different town, but never got to sample.

    Ah wel, I tell ya the only thing that really sucks about it, is that the wife always knows when we go, because I sex her up real good afterwards - but when I got back from that week...she never knew what hit her, except to ask me the next morning how much I spent. and here's the kicker....

    she goes "You know, jewelry works, and Id actually fuck you back if it werent 3 in the morning."

    ME: "ah yes, but - you dont let me fuck you when you wear your jewelry"

    HER: "Funny how that works, isnt it?"

    Then she goes and has something shaved, or waxed or whatever.......and Im off to the jewelry store.

  10. #10
    Banned gingerlee's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Where the cool kids hang out.
    Posts
    4,103
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Ummm, yeah honey, girls are doing that to the other guy for one reason or another. I have never been to-or heard of-a club that hires a guy for that. I give certain guys extra attention because they are good regular customers. They don't have to throw a bunch of money on stage to make them great custies.

  11. #11
    Member VetteKilla's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    49
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    How would this benefit the club?

  12. #12
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    67
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    I dont give a shit if or how it benefits the club - I could care less if benefits the club - the club isnt the one rubbing its tits in my face and grinding on my lap, and I wasnt putting too much stock in it being something the club would mandate - but I certainly wouldnt look past it as part of the managment mentality

  13. #13
    Featured Member echomadison's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    850
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Yeah as was previously stated, just because he isnt coming up off the cash on the main runway doesnt mean he isnt paying big bucks in VIP or whatever. Most custies that are my regulars dont tip more than the $5 bucks on stage but come up off the LOOT in private dances or just for conversation. Basically if you want your face straddled, you need to be willing to come off with some Benjie's not $50-$75...not that there is a problem with that but thats why he is getting special treatment and you arent...

  14. #14
    Banned All Good Things's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    2,451
    Thanks
    33
    Thanked 601 Times in 233 Posts
    My Mood
    Daring

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics guys go through to avoid the fundamental principle that it's all about the money. There's zero chance any club would be insane enough to actually pay a guy to be face-straddled (although I must say, if this job did exist, it would fall under the category, "It's great work if you can get it.").

    Aside from the fact that clubs never, ever pay for anything they don't absolutely have to, that's the kind of behavior many guys actually pay for. As a customer, it's important that you are a gentleman, and respectful, and even pay for food/drinks and show the girls a good time. But that doesn't pay their bills.

    It's all about the money. Really.

    The fact that you don't see blatant tipping at perv row just means that the guy is discreet, spends like a maniac in VIP or takes care of the girls financially in other ways OTC known only to him and his accountant. And this is almost always measured in the thousands or even tens of thousands, but not the low hundreds.

    When a guy like this is in the club, the dancers are likely to compete for his attention, which is what you were witnessing. The real money changes hands in other locations, but the sale may start out on the mainstage.

    And not all high-rollers are "standard, regular, average guy that would never be able to get a hot, tight stripper-type woman." Just trust me on this.

    Anyway, your post reminded me of how I came up with the screen name, "The Other Owner." About once a month in my home club, a young guy or newbie or group of guys on a bachelor party will corner me upstairs and ask, "how in the hell do you have six girls sitting with you all night long and we can't get a single one to talk to us? Are you the owner?" It was the only explanation that made sense to them. It was their version of "who hired this guy as a plant?"

    It's all about the money.

  15. #15
    Moderator Djoser's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Key West
    Posts
    16,343
    Thanks
    1,395
    Thanked 5,487 Times in 2,768 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Yeah, it was funny, I used to get asked if I was the owner all the time, because I got dressed up for work in Daytona, lol...

    Ok, the OP is way off, no club would ever hire a guy to do that. It's kind of funny to read it.

    But in the guy's defense, I have sent girls to tip more times than I can count, or even occasionally close friends if no dancers were available.

    It works about 50% of the time when you then talk up the girl/girl tipping onstage. Don't be shy guys, get on up there yourself, blah, blah. Works more in better clubs.

    But it's extremely rare (like not within the last 3 years) I have ever sent a guy to tip a girl, and only if it was a good friend of mine. It looks 100X better if it's another dancer, plus it makes the tipping girl look good, too.

    I have probably spent a several hundred doing this in the past 7 years, but it always pays off.

    But for a club to pay a guy to sit and get face straddled, lol, no way would they ever do that.

    Look, if the guy spends a few grand there regularly on one girl, he's not going to have to tip more than 2 fucking dollars to get the Royal treatment from her. Thats the way it works.
    You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
    George Clinton

    ______________________________________

  16. #16
    God/dess jaizaine's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    10,144
    Thanks
    328
    Thanked 219 Times in 133 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics guys go through to avoid the fundamental principle that it's all about the money.
    shit yeh what's with that they need to just suck it up and get over it.

  17. #17
    Member
    Joined
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    67
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    points taken

    hey, never said I was a pro at this, by all rights im a club operations noob - just kinda sucks thats all - would be cool if it was random - not that I dont wanna support you ladies and I think you're great and all, but Im not dropping the kinda cash you're talking about, cuz then the wife would get up on stage to make all that money back......

    ....then kick my ass for making her do that, then ask which girls cookie was in my face then offer to sit on her face - now THAT, would be worth a grand getting in on something like that.

    Just as well I guess cuz, why buy the cougar when you can already eat her pussy for free? Not that the cougar doesnt already cost me enough money - HAHAHAHA.

    Anyways, thanks for clearing that up.

  18. #18
    God/dess FBR's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2003
    Posts
    8,351
    Thanks
    85
    Thanked 342 Times in 244 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    shit yeh what's with that they need to just suck it up and get over it.
    "Getting over it" is the tar baby that the lower spending guys have to wrestle with. To them, their 100 dollar tip roll is just as significant, relatively speaking, as the multiple K tip roll of the high roller customer. Those customers dont understand or accept that dancers arent going to view their lack of funds in the context of the biblical story of the widows mite. Thus the anger and envy.

    FBR
    Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.

  19. #19
    God/dess jaizaine's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    10,144
    Thanks
    328
    Thanked 219 Times in 133 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    i totally understand that. hey id be mad if my man went and spent a ton of cash on dancers esp since he can see my naked arse for free!
    what i find a bit sad is that some guys spend so much time and energy trying to dissect what goes on in SC's and trying to convince themselves that it's not about the money for us.

  20. #20
    God/dess FBR's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2003
    Posts
    8,351
    Thanks
    85
    Thanked 342 Times in 244 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    what i find a bit sad is that some guys spend so much time and energy trying to dissect what goes on in SC's and trying to convince themselves that it's not about the money for us.
    I agree with that! If there is an upside, I do think most guy eventually get there from here.

    FBR
    Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.

  21. #21
    Veteran Member Smokeless's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    557
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    I dont think egalitarianism is a big thing among strippers. If they are giving a guy what appears to be extraordinary attention, its probably because he has earned it somewhere along the line. If I were you, I'd dispense with the conspiracy theories and just pony up more money. Problem solved.
    Absolutely.

    Despite several comments suggesting that this sort of behavior might require thousands in investments, Jay's experience is a good counterexample. Depending on the club, the time of day, your luck, how you are with the dancers, and your patience, even a hundred or two each visit may be sufficient.

    I recall asking the same questions as the OP when I first visited clubs. I tipped well at the stage, I bought occasional dances, and still watched in awe and envy as some guys got so much attention. I started visiting days. Already the energy was different. One gal was giving a bunch of guys a whole lot of attention. I jokingly asked how they deserved all the luck. The leader of the pack pulled out a Jackson, handed it to the dancer, asked her to give me a dance. It was a swell dance, and I ponied up several more Jacksons. She apparently liked my company, and although occasionally visiting with the others, hung out with me the rest of the afternoon.

    I'm now a regular, and she's now my favorite. We exchange schedules by phone. I keep her well lubricated with Jacksons and Grants. Anywhere between $60 and $200 a visit. At least one visit a month. Sometimes more. I'm clearly not her ONLY regular. She's quite the popular gal. But when I arrive, if she's not occupied, she runs up to me and gives me a great big hug. At the stage, she's doing those things I lusted after earlier. Yet, I'm respectful of her bounds. (Some of what the OP described could never happen at the club.) If possible, we head to the VIP. But I'm careful to respect her stage schedule and other clients. But, if I pony up cash for the VIP before someone she's working on, guess who goes first? Once there, I'm very satisfied.

    Not to worry. If you spend the cash, are respectful of her needs, get a bit lucky, and carefully cultivate a good club relationship with one or more dancers, soon newbies will be asking the same questions about the "new owner."

    Good luck. And have fun!

  22. #22
    Featured Member evan_essence's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Midwest USA
    Posts
    1,613
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics guys go through to avoid the fundamental principle that it's all about the money.
    OMG. Yeah. I mean, seriously, would they approach a carnival ride the same way? Can you imagine similar thinking? If I'm just nice to the carnie, if I'm a gentleman when the carnies are used to most customers being total jerkoffs, I might get to ride the Tilt-a-Whirl for free. After all, they surely like me for me. And they probably get a little personal thrill from giving it away. And it'd surely be good business practice to give a sample without charging. So c'mon, Mr. Carnie, don't be a grouch, open up, it'll bring in the customers.

    -Ev

  23. #23
    Moderator Djoser's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Key West
    Posts
    16,343
    Thanks
    1,395
    Thanked 5,487 Times in 2,768 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    ...I might get to ride the Tilt-a-Whirl for free. After all, they surely like me for me. And they probably get a little personal thrill from giving it away...
    -Ev
    So what kind of pants should a guy wear when riding the Tilt-a-Whirl?

    And will the guy running it care if the customer gets an erection during the ride?
    You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
    George Clinton

    ______________________________________

  24. #24
    God/dess Bridgette's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Gettin the fuck outta Dodge!
    Posts
    14,241
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Talk about overnalyzing. No dude. It's just a regular and/or good tipper. Of course we don't shove it all up in just everybody's face

    Quote Originally Posted by pheno View Post
    When you lead a nontraditional life don't try to measure it with traditional milestones.

  25. #25
    God/dess Mastridonicus's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Paradigm City
    Posts
    6,784
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts

    Default Re: Strategic Customer plants?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    It's amazing to me the mental gymnastics guys go through to avoid the fundamental principle that it's all about the money.
    LOL yea, but still... in THIS day and age, sadly, that's the thing that gets more money out of the otherwise stingy client. I'll never forget my first PL experience. Anastasia talked me into saving her and running away from "this place"... but she really just saved me from finding a better use for 2100.00 that night. God bless tampa and all, but wow. When you're miserable and have money.... I'm just happy I'm happy and broke. I'll never forget how many times I said "This is the last time I'm going to the atm!" My real brain puts up a persuasive argument.

    As a customer, it's important that you are a gentleman, and respectful, and even pay for food/drinks and show the girls a good time. But that doesn't pay their bills.
    Again. U so sessy and smart. I will never get going to a club on a 40.00 budget. I may not go as much, but unless I can spend enjoyably, I don't waste their time.
    It's all about the money. Really.
    And who'd want it any other way. When you do, it ruins the majesty of this industry
    The fact that you don't see blatant tipping at perv row just means that the guy is discreet, spends like a maniac in VIP or takes care of the girls financially in other ways OTC known only to him, his accountant, and an internet forum of which he leaves blatant obvious hints on while forgetting that he could just as easily focus on how incredible of a guy he really just is. And this is almost always measured in the thousands or even tens of thousands, but not the low hundreds.

    You know I <3 U. But sometimes sir, I really fear that one day you'll forget that YOUR value has nothing to do with the money.

    When a guy like this is in the club, the dancers are likely to compete for his attention, which is what you were witnessing. The real money changes hands in other locations, but the sale may start out on the main stage.
    YES! YES! I long for the days when the stage was a STAGE. And a PERFORMANCE included nudity but the bare was only an extension of the PERFORMANCE. Oh how I wish I could see another truly put-together act. *drool*

    Unfortunately such performances are often thanked by theft of some sort murdering the art of the performance in the performer one act at a time. We clap at the end of a stage routine for a reason folks. In all performance, nothing is so heartbreaking as silence. And when she's dead to the silence, the performer is gone.

    And not all high-rollers are "standard, regular, average guy that would never be able to get a hot, tight stripper-type woman." Just trust me on this.
    Well,
    If you want A-Quality women, you should strive to know what A-Quality women look for. And to this day, and probably forever, I will always feel settled for, when people like you should be deserved and standard in these classes.

    Anyway, your post reminded me of how I came up with the screen name, "The Other Owner." About once a month in my home club, a young guy or newbie or group of guys on a bachelor party will corner me upstairs and ask, "how in the hell do you have six girls sitting with you all night long and we can't get a single one to talk to us? Are you the owner?" It was the only explanation that made sense to them. It was their version of "who hired this guy as a plant?"
    THIS is why I am quoting you. LOL. I LOVE IT.

    Someday soon I'll have the cohones to explain my handle. But it goes back to 10th grade, and EVERYONE asks.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. New FICO Study on Strategic Mortgage Defaults
    By Melonie in forum Dollar Den
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-26-2011, 03:01 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-05-2010, 02:12 AM
  3. Let's see your...plants!
    By Will in forum Picture Post
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 08-10-2007, 07:14 PM
  4. Let's see your...plants!
    By Will in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-07-2007, 02:07 AM
  5. Strategic planning
    By Kaylinn in forum Hustle Hut
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-15-2007, 11:29 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •