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    im with smart cookie on this. I can only point in you free forum directions, that have info you need. However , I cannot due to federal laws and state laws say do it, dont do it or here's how to do it.

    I can only say what is "common"knowledge.

    ps your best way of figuring out what NOT to write on your site or ad is to venture onto bigdoggie.net and look at their featured escort ads. check through their sites and get a feel for what is what. and how things are set up.

    know your reputable girls and always always get references! your life depends on it. there is a ladies only board on bigdoggie as well that can guide you in how to stay safe. I suggest you take part in it.

    best of luck in your endeavors

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    Thank you Smart Cookie ! And NO I don't need to meet anyone for coffee.
    Yes, I MIGHT be able to get someone entre with a couple high end referral agencies BUT I would ONLY do it if asked and IF I was SURE the woman in question really knew and understood the business ( and I mean EVERYTHING about the business) and had the looks, charm & smarts to handle the high end of the business.I have declined to refer at least as many as I've given the 411 to.

    Just to try and clear the air and to dispel any remaining doubts: If you look back through this forum and actually READ some of the threads you'll see more than one post from a number of dancers curious or interested in escorting without any serious idea of what is really involved. Some actually think it only involves getting dressed up and being wined and dined. More than one has been approached by an actual pimp trying to seduce her into the business.And saddest of all, most, if not all of said posters were clearly young ( under 21 ), inexperienced and completely misinformed about the realities of escorting. Just as stripping is clearly not for every woman; escorting is even more unsuitable for most women. And it is certainly NOT for a high-school drop-out who thinks it's the easy way to big money! So, if I can help someone to make an informed decision I look at it as a positive thing.And since I'm not a pimp and don't have any interest in an escort service and there's nothing in it for me anyway, then the readers of my posts are free to take my advice and counsel for whatever they think it is worth.

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    Ya know Eric i was asked by the OWNER of a very well known south Florida escort agency to work. I did it. We sat first, he explained everything to me..i catered to the men who are looking for an ACTUAL DATE! Yes, it's hard to believe that some men just want to talk and have a woman on their arm. At times we danced at upscale clubs, and hotels.

    Then the fetish crowd comes along too. These guys are great. What into feet? Pays damn good money to lick toes? No big deal.

    However my life as an escort was not actually for me. I was on call 24/7 by pager because of the clients i catered to. I made great money. But some changed and wanted sex. I said no.

    I do know what escorts do. But again at the risk (i am a huge risk taker btw) of sounding different again...i made it work. I got out because the hours and some men wanting to be beat by me and some wanting some form of sex.

    This company had many many clients that are just looking for a "DATE"!

    It's true. They like you. They probably get sex at home who knows...but upon meeting new clients (them) they don't want a fat pig sitting with them.
    This btw is what i was told by a client. I was playing his gf!!! I adored him.

    I was never going to fuck these guys however. And yes i could have stayed on...but i made the decision. Men begging for sex bothers me. And i KNEW this would happen.

    Yes i know all FIVE sides of the escort biz. One of my very good friends is an escort. I see her twice a week! She does it all. I can talk about that because i did not mention her name. She makes great money. When not traveling she hangs at home like any other woman.

    She uses condoms, and loves the job. The men are screened and great to her.

    I am in my 40's now...or i may have gone back. Yea i still look like 30 IMO of course, but i have lived all (pretty much) of the adult world that i care to.

    Escorting is no secret.

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    PAMELA-There is a very thin top tier or niche of escorting where you literally date for pay= no sex is involved.That is absolutely the exception and not the rule.It involves the creme de la creme of escorts; the most beautiful; the most educated;cultured; urbane; sophisticated women. We're talking about 1 to 2.5 % of escorts, at most. They cater to a certain crowd of men who, as you say,want the companionship and the ego-boost of having a beautiful woman ( such as you ) on their arm. It's called the " black tie' crowd btw. Here's a juicy tid-bit. Many an
    awards banquet & charity function has seen more than one HIGHLY paid escort walk in on the arm of a super-rich magnate; well-known athlete and/or Hollywood star.I've seen it for myself. Again, we're talking about the creme de la creme. Almost all are college graduates; have traveled extensively and are multi-lingual and I mean that literally. They can tell a Boudeaux from a Burgundy and a Manet from a Monet.
    Sadly, it's also exactly the sort of thing thsat puts stars in the wrong eyes and helps to create misimpressions and misinformation about the "real world" of escorting.

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    Thanks for the info. I was told about the 'black tie' clients, but even they went a tad over for me at times. Nice guys, tend to be older, some much older, married and that was that.

    I was just burning candles at both ends at the time when i really think about it. It's VERY hard work to entertain a stranger at a different level from dancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela View Post
    I am in my 40's now...or i may have gone back. Yea i still look like 30 IMO of course, but i have lived all (pretty much) of the adult world that i care to.

    Escorting is no secret.
    Damn, Pamela-you're in your 40's?????!!!!!! No friggin way!!! You have been truly blessed-maybe send some of your mojo my way??

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    Yea....i made it! You're sweet.

    Guess it's genes. And luck. Certainly not my life...

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    Stoner, I have some friends who are escorts. They love their jobs, but as far as I know, they don't sleep with the guys. They do a "show" that is really not all bad. My best friend did however fly out to boston to meet a customer, and when she wouldn't have sex with him he put a knife up to her throat and almost raped and killed her! She talked him out of it and got the hell out of there....

    p.s. what does GFE stand for and what is a "safe" escort?

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    GFE: Girl Friend Experience. These ladies treat customers as though they are a significant other.

    I don't belive there is 'safe' escorting. Just as there is no safe walking to our vehicles anymore either.

    PS know this was for Eric...sorry

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    If your going to escort at least try the legal aspect of it, there are a handful of good brothels in the state of nevada. If you want a list let me know, I have worked at 2 of them and still work out there 1 week a month.

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    Over the years I have known many escorts who also danced either before, during or after their escorting days. To say "you can't go back" is just ludicrous. Escorting is certainly not a career to be entered into lightly but it's not a black whole either. You CAN get out. Hell, you can even get out and get back in again....
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    J.D.-Nothing personal and I'm very sorry but it is doubtful that your escort friends are telling you the entire truth about what they do.Yes, as Pamela and I have discussed there is "black tie-evening gown" escorting which involves the creme de la creme of highly educated and cultured escorts ( who start at $1000 per hr. btw & usually charge a lot more and who also include MEN sometimes known as "walkers" who specialize in accompanying rich socialites to their public and society functions ) but we're talking about a very small part of the escort scene.Probably 1 to 2 %.Your average escort simply does not have the education, background and experience to pull it off. Even in this milieu sex is often involved.Sometimes for an extra fee ( those damn "extras" again ) and sometimes included in the rate. They are generally referred to as "courtesans".

    The next tier is populated by Porn Stars, Playmates, Pets, fitness models and feature dancers. Usually they are booked through an agency like Bella Models,Affluent Concierge, Body Miracle and a few others. Many are utr = their names & faces are NOT advertised .Only VIP's are told who they are and are expected to keep their mouths shut. They charge anywhere from $1500 to $25,000 per hour. That's right. One former PMOY, now retired ,was billed out at $25,000 PER HOUR ! Go figure. One current , not terribly active porn star is billed out at $10,000 per hour.The agency gets anywhere from 20 to 50 %. A lot of these women see clients privately i.e. they book direct at much lower rates. And sex is involved 99.99 % of the time.

    Then you have other agency girls and indies of all types-older MILF's, bbw, dominas, role players etc.etc. Sex is almost always involved.

    The entire escort biz usually involves sex for money. It is rare when it does not. As far as your friend who claims to have been attacked, sadly that does happen from time to time.It happens a lot in the so called "straight" world too.You've heard of "date rape" ?The only way to avoid it is to screen and insist on references which MUST be checked. Part of screening involves meeting your prospective client in a public place FIRST- the hotel bar or cocktail lounge are very popular. One of my escort friends has a bodyguard ( occasionally ME ) always standing close by for these initial encounters. Just in case. And she's not afraid to go the ladies room and not come back if the vibes are not right.

    GFE= girl friend experience= usually involving DFK & bbbj. Condoms are used for intercourse.
    PSE= porn star experience= which is rarely done because it requires the client to produce a recent certified lab test showing him to be HIV negative and otherwise free of STD's. No condoms are used.
    Totally "safe" usually means no kissing, no daty and EVERYTHING covered.

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    And if you happen to be guaranteed a referral fee for every introduction you make to an agency, Eric, I feel confident that you will tell us that in the interests of full disclosure.

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    SMARTIE- WHAT ?!?! A referral fee ?????? Just how do you suggest I go about collecting if some dancer who reads my posts decides to go into escorting ?

    Not that it's any of your business but if you must know I have referred a few ( a handful at best) dancers to someone I know who escorts and a grand total of 2 (TWO ! ) do some work with her on occasion. I've never gotten a dime nor would I want to.

    Here's wishing you a Happy and Healthy New Year.

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    In case you haven't heard- Lisa Ann Taylor ( MELISSA WOLF) was busted at her Atlanta home on a RICO charge stemming from prostitution & drugs. Among the "evidence" against her are posts from The Erotic Review-theeroticreview.com. As we mentioned earlier in this thread, the owner of that site is a certified R-A-T !!!!! who cannot be trusted.Whether or not the Atlanta cops have access to the VIP "reviews" section, I don't know for sure but my guess would be YES. Might, repeat MIGHT even be admissible in Court as a hearsay exception -an
    "admission" of wrongful conduct or "declaration against interest" if, repeat IF they can establish they were written by REAL men describing REAL encounters.

    Where Melissa really went wrong was doing incall in an upscale residential neighborhood with lots of kiddie-poos and nosy hausfraus around- DUMB !

    Moral of the story= BE CAREFUL !

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    There are many reasons why TER is a bad idea association, but this is probably the worst example. A few years ago, a well-known Bay Area escort had her assets forfeited - though she was never formally charged - after a long investigation. The "proof in the pudding" was her reviews on TER. The IRS subpoened TER records and tracked down her reviewers through IP addresses, who admitted they'd paid her for sex. This is an article about it:



    Most escorts are browbeaten into having graphic reviews, and think they can't get business any other way. It's not true. I would recommend to any women considering escorting that they avoid TER at all costs, and form an association with instead.

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    Girls- LISTEN to Smart-Cookie !!!! She knows what she's talking about. Wom is the best form of promoting & advertising. My friend in the business INSISTS that her clients NOT post reviews except on a board owned by a friend of hers and on which there are NO DETAILS ! Just stuff about what a great gal she is; what a fine time they had together etc. = innocuos stuff that is worthless to LE or in Court. The creep who owns TER has a history of "helping" LE AND trying to pressure providers into giving him freebies in exchange for "positive" reviews.
    Stay off his board !

    Oh, and the Story link- that was "Carla Brazil"= Law Student, Fitness Model and escort. Her life was HELL for over a year. I met her once-casually, not professionally.Really smart gal and yet look what happened to her.

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    eric stoner, have u ever worked for or owned an agency? just curious...u seem to have done so much research on the business for someone whos not affiliated with it...

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    Wow. Her case was just dismissed last year. Must be nice to have it all, almost lose it and then a rich guy comes to save the day.

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    Lucki- Nope. Never owned or worked for an agency. Know a couple gals who own & run them and I know a few escorts. I've provided security for an escort-friend on a few occasions. Usually for a fee; sometimes as a favor. We've talked a lot about the business.That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Sex for money IS !So you emphasize the time for money aspect and do not publicly discuss sex at all..
    Ahhh pardon my ignorance but is prostitution totally illegal in the US?
    I'm not sure why I read this post anyway but now I'm curious.
    It's not illegal in Australia. Street prostitution is but it's legal if it's a registered brothel.

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    ^^^ Prostitution is illegal throughout the entire USA, with the exception of rural Nevada (it's still illegal in Nevada's cities, like Las Vegas and Reno). And in the rural areas where it's legal, it's only legal in licensed brothels by licensed prostitutes, who are very strictly regulated.

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    ^^^It is, however, extremely common and easily available at fairly small legal risk (for the customer, especially) in many parts of the US (nearly all cities of any size), despite being illegal.

    Actually, what goes on in SCs in most places is also technically illegal but nevertheless "tolerated" by LE (i.e., the relevant laws are enforced in SCs very ineffectively, if at all).

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    Why and by whom is not clear but TER- theeroticreview.com has been down since Sat. 1/6/07. One rumor has the Feds shutting it down- unlikely.It's based in The Netherlands where prostitution is legal. Another rumor has it crashing from all the web-hits generated from the Melissa Wolf story.

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    It's back up.

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