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    Dancers,

    Imagine all of a sudden you get a new customer. He's an older guy who comes into the club regularly and spends biggish on you and only you. Talking to him you find out that his wife of 50 years has died. He says and you believe that he was faithful to her for the whole 50 years. He seems to like you because you remind him of his wife who he's obviously still loves and is grieving for. You've sort of become his surrogate wife so to speak. He's seeing you because it's the closest thing he can get to spending time with his wife, in the same sort of way that a widow might devour romance novels featuring men like her husband.

    Now imagine that you meet a genie/find a magic wand/become a scientist and work out how to clone people/whatever that means that you could bring his wife back to life. Of course because he loves his wife if you do this he'll never set foot in a strip club again, and you will lose a regular big spending customer.

    What would you do, bring her back, lose the money but have the satisfaction of knowing of the happiness you've caused? Or keep her in the ground and him in the club?

    Also what percentage of dancers do you think would bring her back vs. keep the customer? Customers can answer this part too.

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    bizarre question.
    i mean, what's done is done.. if i genuinely cared abotu the guy, i might wave my magic genie lamp i mean, karma works...

    Love it!

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    wow this is bizarre?
    are u widowed?
    i would not have a clue what percentage of dancers would do anything it would be an individual thing.
    i would not want to have the responsibility on my hands of deciding something like that.

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    ok personally anyone who is money hungry enough to wish someone stayed dead for their own monetary gain is kinda fucked! I love money as much as the next girl but come on now, there is a line of human decency!

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    Let's see....a man's eternal happiness or a couple of hundred bucks...is anyone *really* that greedy?
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    Well I shall be the first to say no. Not because I want the $ but because I think there are certain ethics to think about. Dealing with death and greif is part of life. I believe there is a reason as to why we have to go through hard and horrible times as well as the good ones as harsh as that might seem at first glance. Also I see it as messing with the future. You have no way of knowing what things you might change for the worse by bringing someone back to life. You have no way of knowing whether the wife would really want to live again. I think theres a reason as to why we say people are "at peace" when they die. They are.

    Im also a believer in reincarnation / afterlife. I believe that we all meet again anyway and that time as measured in this lifetime is very short compared to the bigger picture. Life as measured in this lifetime is just a snippet of what our souls experience in total. So no, I would not start messing around with a new science. I would however be genuine to my customer and try to be a good ear, friend and support system. I think those things are important in life too.

    Gosh that was a bit deep for forst thing in the morning, lol!

    Edited to add - besides if he was married for 50 years he is most likely heading towards the end of his lifetime. You could end up with a situation where he dies and then the wifes left to cope not only with the wierdness of being alive again of which would include so many things, but also then she'd have to deal with living without him. (Which I assume would be equally as hard, unless the love wasny mutual in the first place, Im assuming also that its meant to be...)

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    I dated a very manipulative widower so my answer is NO...especially with the "man" in question being aged, he's on his way to see her anyway in the Afterlife, if their love was so true.
    Sex workers have a genuine soft spot for grieving men, and naturally some men use these situations as a way to take advantage of others. Beware, folks!

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    Since the scenario above is obviously fantasy, I didn't think too much about reincarnation/bringing people back from the dead/the afterlife/etc. Obviously it's not something that's ever going to happen, so I didn't over think it. Now, if I start thinking about the ethical/moral/religious aspects of the scenario....well, never mind. I'm not in the mood to think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by echomadison View Post
    ok personally anyone who is money hungry enough to wish someone stayed dead for their own monetary gain is kinda fucked! I love money as much as the next girl but come on now, there is a line of human decency!
    I guess I'm kinda fucked!

    I respect the circle of life. Death is not bad. Life is awesome, but what a waste if your whole purpose of living is to grieve. I would try to help him cope with that because bringing her back would prolong the inevitable pain.

    What would be the point of bringing her back to life? So she can die again later and leave him lonely again? or he can die and leave her lonely? Or do they both live forever or die at the same time?

    I understand the point of this question is to determine how greedy I am. Do I pick the money or his happiness? I think there would be better examples to illustrate this particular dilemma....because I don't think I'm being greedy in this scenario. I'm don't really care for regulars, especially high-maintenance needy regulars like a guy who is clinging on to me because I remind him of his dead wife.

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    I'd keep the wife in the ground. The customer continuing to visit the club or not has nothing to do with my decision; I've seen enough horror/sci-fi movies to know that bringing someone back from the dead rarely turns out well.

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    If I had a wish from a genie, my customers would be the LAST thing on my mind!

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    what I was thinking was if they found a way to bring people back, by majic, a genie, science, whatever...there are other, much more important people I would think about bringing back before my mind even wandered to widowed customers in a strip club.

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    Anyone else think of the monkey's paw story? Creepy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    If I had a wish from a genie, my customers would be the LAST thing on my mind!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! you crack me up! That is so true though!

    Though if i had a choice to bring your wife back, or keep milking money out of you, well, i'd bring your wife back. I feel very bad and deep sorrow for people who have lost a husband or wife after being to gether for decades. I think that's why most spouses follow them so close in death because they are heart broken.

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    Very interesting to read that people assume that my wife's dead, or that I've even got one.

    For argument's sake I'll clarify a few things. You don't get to use the wish on whatever you want, or even get to choose to bring back whoever you want, it's either bring back the wife or nothing. And they both live happily ever after until they die at about the same time.

    Emily you say you don't care for regulars, does that mean that you'd bring the wife back just to get rid of him?

    Madmaxine, just because there are some manipulative widowers doesn't mean that they all are. But you bring up a good point about the soft spot sex workers have for the sort of guy I'm writing about. I'll need to start another topic on this some time.

    Aussiepunkshocker, I was wondering whether someone would write a reply that talked about the spiritual side of the whole thing. Strippers seem to have a tendency to be a lot more into this sort of stuff than average. Probably worth another whole topic in itself.

    Thanks for the replies everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrillseeker View Post
    Emily you say you don't care for regulars, does that mean that you'd bring the wife back just to get rid of him?
    I plainly said I wouldn't bring the wife back. I added that I didn't care about regulars, meaning, that having regualrs isn't important to me, let alone more important than anything else. I'm just indifferent to them.

    I'll take anyone's money. And I have no problem pushing guys away when I want. I don't have to bring their dead wife back from the grave to get rid of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrillseeker View Post
    Strippers seem to have a tendency to be a lot more into this sort of stuff than average.
    not all strippers are into the same stuff u know its not like we were all made out of the same mould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    not all strippers are into the same stuff u know its not like we were all made out of the same mould.
    True. Never said it wasn't. It would be impossible for every stripper to be into every offbeat thing. But almost every dancer seems to be into SOMETHING along those lines. Aikido, Astrology, Astral Projection, Near Death Experiences, Aliens, BDSM, Witchcraft, Wicca, Paganism and Meditation are 10 things I can think of off the top of my head that interest a greater percentage of dancers compared to the general population. But I don't think anyone would have the time to be into all of them.

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    What the hell kind of question is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I'll take anyone's money. And I have no problem pushing guys away when I want. I don't have to bring their dead wife back from the grave to get rid of them!
    LOL! This thread is wack!

    Where did you come up with this question thrillseeker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatalieFRPhilly View Post
    LOL! This thread is wack!

    Where did you come up with this question thrillseeker?
    Sort of going into Hustle Hut territory here. A very good way to break the ice with someone when all you know about them is their work is to put a hypothetical question to them that involves having to choose between ethics and money.

    Like for a personal trainer you describe a hypothetical client who spends a lot on private training for a couple of months, burns off however much fat they want, then once they've acheived their goal quits gym completely, gets stuck into the chocolate cake and a few months later is back where they started and needs personal training again, and the cycle repeats (trust me they have a lot of people like this, same as strippers have guys who's wives have died). You then ask the trainer whether they would magic the client into having a healthy lifestyle if they could. After this there are a lot of conversational avenues to go down.

    You can easily come up with similar scenarios for a lot of jobs. For stripping I can think of 3 more of the top of my head. I chose the one about the dead wife because like I wrote above, strippers somehow always seem to be into supernatural stuff.

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    I advise the OP to go to a psychiatry forum and ask the same question, but directed at psychiatrists. Ask THEM if they would bring the wife back, if they could Be sure to come back here and post their answers, preferably in statistical-number format. I am sure we'll all be waiting breathlessly for the outcome


    This is yet another dipshit (or maybe the same dipshit or group of dipshits) who thinks strippers are all a bunch of greedy bitches with no conscience, and is here trying to prove it. Where are you fucker(s) coming from? And why so many, all at once??? GO AWAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I advise the OP to go to a psychiatry forum and ask the same question, but directed at psychiatrists. Ask THEM if they would bring the wife back, if they could Be sure to come back here and post their answers, preferably in statistical-number format. I am sure we'll all be waiting breathlessly for the outcome


    This is yet another dipshit (or maybe the same dipshit or group of dipshits) who thinks strippers are all a bunch of greedy bitches with no conscience, and is here trying to prove it. Where are you fucker(s) coming from? And why so many, all at once??? GO AWAY.
    Bridgette,

    Why do you automatically assume that I'm trying to prove strippers are "a bunch of greedy bitches with no conscience"? I actually started this topic to prove the opposite. I thought everyone knew that the only customers who had any chance of getting respect from sex workers were the people who had no hope of making it in their love lives in the real world because of some physical (as opposed to psychological) reason.

    The whole topic was meant to show how dancers were NOT greedy. If I wanted to put down dancers, the last thing I would do is use a scenario involving a type of customer that strippers actually often have a soft spot for.

    Also by flaming people who you (mistakenly) think are saying that dancers have no conscience, you do nothing to convince people that they actually do. Much better is to provide counterexamples of dancers doing things that show that they have a heart.

    You want me to ask this question in a psychiatry forum? You might be interested to know that I've actually asked this question to a dancer, to her face. Fortunately she was mentally stable and smart enough to realise that I wasn't insulting her, and it led on to an interesting conversation about the role of the sex industry in society.

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    once again your post indicates that u think all strippers are the same.
    the only type of customer who can get sympathy from strippers (or sex workers as u like to call us). seriously what would you know?
    and we are all into the afterlife and tarot or whatever u said.
    every dancer is a different person with different interests and different hopes and dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrillseeker View Post
    True. Never said it wasn't. It would be impossible for every stripper to be into every offbeat thing. But almost every dancer seems to be into SOMETHING along those lines. Aikido, Astrology, Astral Projection, Near Death Experiences, Aliens, BDSM, Witchcraft, Wicca, Paganism and Meditation are 10 things I can think of off the top of my head that interest a greater percentage of dancers compared to the general population. But I don't think anyone would have the time to be into all of them.
    Im interested in all of the above if you take out Wicca which doesnt interest me at all
    I dont know about other strippers though, I havent noticed a higer percentage from any other group of people, but then I guess I tend to hang around freaks anyway...

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