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    Feel sorry for the Guys?

    Ha. I bet the girls are foaming at the mouth for this one. Before you jump on me-lets exclude those idiot guys that do harm and disrespect the entertainers from the conversation(s). Strictly for those lonesome men that are harmless as a June bug and as ferocious as a puppy.

    Being new-I've looked around and read a great deal on the posts on this site and notice great amount of conversations on how to hustle and get the most from the customer. But I now have to wonder--how is your conscious?

    Ever feel bad (regret) for the guy that:
    • ran out of money-spending it all on you
    • be-friended you or attaches themselves to you due to your powerful sense of "persuading"
    • tells you all the sob stories of their lives
    • pulls out all the cheap pick-up lines
    • dresses up and looks his very best-you knowing he wants to date
    • says and does anything possible to try and impress you
    • tells you he loves you (had a friend tell a dancer that one-he was a little off-the-track to begin with)
    • pays you to be a date for some function/high school reunion, etc. (seen this one too. Guy paid through the nose to have this happen.)
    Etc. and Etc. I could go on and on. Point is, do any of you feel somewhat guilty for any guy that obviously is infatuated with you. Again-lets not count the dumb ones that do stupid things. They deserve whatever they get.



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    no i don't feel sorry for any of them.
    i am there to work an earn a living.
    if they want to meet someone who is genuinely interested in them then they should not come to a strip club, they should go to a regular bar.
    i am there to provide entertainment and yes that does include making a guy feel like i am really interested in him in order to close the sale and make the dance an enjoyable experience.
    i would never let a guy pay me to be a date as i would not see any of these guys outside of work.
    if he is infatuated with me that's his problem for reading more into it than he should.
    it's all about the money 100% - i work there, if i was not getting paid i would not give these guys the time of day.
    period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post
    Strictly for those lonesome men that are harmless as a June bug and as ferocious as a puppy.

    Being new-I've looked around and read a great deal on the posts on this site and notice great amount of conversations on how to hustle and get the most from the customer. But I now have to wonder--how is your conscious?
    Fine, thank you.
    Ever feel bad (regret) for the guy that:
    • ran out of money-spending it all on you
    No. I mean, do you mean ENTIRELY? Like his mortgage was up, etc? Never happened. I wouldn't feel bad if it did, because I would never encourage a guy to do that. In a nutshell - it would never happen.
    • be-friended you or attaches themselves to you due to your powerful sense of "persuading"
    You mean, like entirely misprojects our relationship? No. I'm not promising - either directly or indirectly - a date, a fuck or or a life long buddy. I promise a good time, and that (I like to think) I deliver. I don't mislead and I'm very direct. If they insist, for some reason, that I don't mean it... there is nothing I can do if they don't take me seriously.
    • tells you all the sob stories of their lives
    Well, I feel bad for them if they've had hard times. But I can't imagine a scenario that it would affect my conscience.
    • pulls out all the cheap pick-up lines
    Why in the world would this impact my conscience?
    • dresses up and looks his very best-you knowing he wants to date
    Again - a guy dresses nicely to impress the girls in the club. That's good. That is very socially apt. Just because we WILL dance for you and talk to you when you have come straight from a manual labour job with holes in pants doesn't mean that we like it. What would this have to do with me feeling bad about anything.
    • says and does anything possible to try and impress you
    I'm just going to use question marks now when I'm all "Why should I feel either responsible or bad about this"? So, ???
    tells you he loves you (had a friend tell a dancer that one-he was a little off-the-track to begin with)
    No. Because that person is unbalanced and I didn't make him that way. I instead cut off the conversation and walk away. Again - I feel bad that he is unbalanced, and I feel bad for him that he may feel he is suffering, but I didn't mentally disable him.
    • pays you to be a date for some function/high school reunion, etc. (seen this one too. Guy paid through the nose to have this happen.)
    ???
    Etc. and Etc. I could go on and on. Point is, do any of you feel somewhat guilty for any guy that obviously is infatuated with you. Again-lets not count the dumb ones that do stupid things. They deserve whatever they get.
    Well, me I think I should feel guilty when I've done something wrong. Not because of other people's feelings or clothes.


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    Your taking this a little to deep and perhaps I shouldn't have been so specific.

    Basically, how is your conscious when a guy is obviously infatuated with you and does everything he can to impress you and get closer to you? Wants sex, tries and does everything he can to get it from you. Desperate for your attention.

    Most dancers will take these kinds of men and run with it. Drain the pump dry. Knowing full well that you (the dancer) have no intentions of pursuing any social engagements with him. But you take full advantage of the situation and the power sense of persuasion you have over him. ( Don't tell me that doesn't happen.)

    How do you feel at the end of the night? Is it his fault that he emptied his wallet?

    *This is basically what I was implying at the top.
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    I know I did a good job if he leaves sans cash! Why should I feel bad, b/c I know he had a great time.

    I wouldn't hold it againt someone who didn't "love" me, so why is it my fault if I don't love them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post
    Your taking this a little to deep and perhaps I shouldn't have been so specific.
    No, I think the problem is that you want us to be responsible for some guy's feelings rather than our actions. What I'm responsible for depends on what've I done, said, ways I've behaved in structuring the relationship, not on whether some guy likes me.

    Most dancers will take these kinds of men and run with it. Drain the pump dry. Knowing full well that you (the dancer) have no intentions of pursuing any social engagements with him. But you take full advantage of the situation and the power sense of persuasion you have over him. ( Don't tell me that doesn't happen.)
    Yes. I do. Depending on how define "take full advantage." I don't lie. I don't imply that our relationship will change. It would be silly and patronizing of me to tell customers that they are not allowed to spend money on me because I think they like me too much.
    "No, you haven't frightened me or creeped me out at all. I just think... that you shouldn't spend money on dancers you really like. You're infatuated. That means you're vulnerable and unable to decide how much money you want to spend."
    "How about just 5 or 6 dances..."
    "No, I'm sorry. Please go find another dancer that you don't really care for and spend your money there."

    How do you feel at the end of the night? Is it his fault that he emptied his wallet?

    *This is basically what I was implying at the top.
    Of course it is - barring circumstances that make it mine - like if I've drugged him, robbed him, taken his money under false pretences, if he is mentally challenged in some way and I know it, etc., etc. A guy that really likes me, who is aware of my role in the club, who knows and has heard me say that our relationship will not move beyond a dancer/customer friendship - that is absolutely his decision. I even think "fault" is a little odd here. It implied blame - something pejorative and nasty, as opposed to a guy buying a service and having a nice time.
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    Good point Lola.



    Jenny,

    You still haven't answered the question. If he did emptied his wallet on you under those pretenses I describe-how do you feel about it? I understand that he pulled the money himself without a gun to his head-but you did in fact persuade that action. Are there any regrets? Furthermore-he emptied that wallet to try incorporate a social bond to you. Do you pump him dry?

    And yes-guys have pushed their credit cards way past its limitation in SC's. It does happen.

    Responsibility is not the issue. Again, I understand you didn't force him-but you must have some feelings on the above situations I describe. What are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    no i don't feel sorry for any of them.
    i am there to work an earn a living.
    if they want to meet someone who is genuinely interested in them then they should not come to a strip club, they should go to a regular bar.
    i am there to provide entertainment and yes that does include making a guy feel like i am really interested in him in order to close the sale and make the dance an enjoyable experience.
    i would never let a guy pay me to be a date as i would not see any of these guys outside of work.
    if he is infatuated with me that's his problem for reading more into it than he should.
    it's all about the money 100% - i work there, if i was not getting paid i would not give these guys the time of day.
    period.
    Come on...don't hold back. How do you really feel?

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    LMAO!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    I know I did a good job if he leaves sans cash! Why should I feel bad, b/c I know he had a great time.

    I wouldn't hold it againt someone who didn't "love" me, so why is it my fault if I don't love them?
    I don't mind leaving broke if I have a good time, (which is just about everytime I visit my club.) I have run into a few girls that will hang with you until you're broke then disappear like a puff of smoke. I don't hold that against them. They are at work after all. My current favorite is different. I have run out of cash after hanging out with her half the night and she's bought me a drink and given me a free dance or two to send me on my way. Whether she actually likes me or is just a shrewed business woman, I couldn't say but I'm hooked. If I have money in my pocket, she always gets first shot at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post
    Good point Lola.


    I understand that he pulled the money himself without a gun to his head-but you did in fact persuade that action. Are there any regrets? Furthermore-he emptied that wallet to try incorporate a social bond to you. Do you pump him dry?
    Jumping in here...

    Nope, not a damn regret. Should a car dealer have regret if a person spends their last few dollars on a down payment for a car that they probably cant' afford? No. Not his responsibility, he's making a living. What about a real estate agent, when someone stretches their budget to buy a bigger house that's more expensive? Of course not, it's the customer's decision. Same with a strip club. Said customer is buying a product, an experience. And he's getting it. Bought and delivered. I fail to see where regret, or any other feeling would come into play here.

    Bottom line is, customers are adults. They're all big boys and girls who can think and make decisions for themselves. If they want to spend all their money on me or any other stripper, who am I to judge!
    I believe you Dottie and you have my support

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    He's not buying a product is he? I believe that person is buying a fantasy. A hopeful fulfillment. That person is emptying his wallet to get satisfaction on that experience. You girls know full well that it's not going to happen and you know the males instincts. Do you not sit with the guy, carry on a conversation flirting and teasing every moment trying to persuade and "sell" an illusion?

    The guy pumps the money in hopes of fulfilling the experience-in hopes that something "might" happen..would you agree to that? You give the illusion that you are interested and willing-do you not?

    Of course you do. That is the game. But are you not taking advantage of the guy that has his heart set on the situation? His heart set on you and spends it all to just be in your world. You have no feeling in regards to this?
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    Nope, not a one. I don't tell guys I'm going to go out with them, I don't tell them I will/might/maybe have sex with them. And he's getting EXACTLY what he's paying for. Company. Fantasy. Not sex. And no, I don't agree that 'every' guy pumps out money hoping to get a date/sex/OTC/whatever. Some guys actually enjoy the experience for what it is.

    And...ahem....most guys don't use their 'heart' when spending in a strip club, it's another organ.
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    Good points. And the organ thing proves my point. You know FULL well what "head" is in control here. And I bet it too easy to milk that cow dry when the guy is at that level-right?

    So-he's in seventh heaven, he has had his experience, why keep pursuing him? Why not try another? You know your going to take him to the bank right? Does that feel wrong?

    And no doubt, the guy enjoys the experience-but you have to know they wished it further on. And probably fantasized about it later at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post

    So-he's in seventh heaven, he has had his experience, why keep pursuing him? Why not try another? You know your going to take him to the bank right? Does that feel wrong?
    This is getting way to repetitive for my taste. You don't want an answer, you want YOUR answer. And since I'm never going to agree with you, you're never going to be satisified. So, NO. Doesn't feel wrong. Hrm. Let's think about this from a business logic shall we? "wow, this customer is really great, spends alot of money here. What should I do now? Hmm, I think I'll ignore him and his business and go try and find someone else that may or may not have/spend money. Brilliant!"

    With that logic, you must be a strip club manager
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    LOL. Cute.

    All that is being stated so far is the dancer justification on why she should, not how she feels about doing it. I get the feeling the question is being diverted and somehow personalized.

    Your avoiding the question. I get the fact you understand why you shouldn't regret it. Jaizaine answered it, I thought, well and was honest. (#2).

    Just so you know-this is just for curiosity sake. No agenda.
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    Umm, why do I get the feeling that this is less "curiosity" and more of "you're not going to stop badgering/disagreeing with our answers until we go along with the guilt trip you're laying upon us??"

    No, most of us have not seen men spend themselves into the poorhouse, we're THERE to make a living, most of us dancers are much closer to poverty than our customers, and my night is a good night if I have separated as many men in my club from as much $$ in their wallets as possible while making want to come back to ME SPECIFICALLY for more. THAT is my goal every day.... why would I feel guilty? I have never once seen a man spend money on me he didn't have. Usually its men saying they DON't have the money they DO have!

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    yeh i didn't hold back answering this thread because last night was so much of a head f**k i felt pissed off coz this thread related to it.
    last night was a particularly bad night for guys trying to pick me up.
    every single customer except 1 last night asked me if they could have my number, could they meet OTC, would i be interested in dating them etc.
    i don't think most guys realise how mentally draining it is to keep a smile on my face and stay polite etc and dance for someone who is just constantly at u for more than what u are selling.

    im in my mid 20s and it doesnt stop 50 somethings trying to ask for my phone number i mean are they delusional?
    and to have to act polite and be nice etc "oh we can't date customers" etc while trying to get on with the dancing while these idiots just keep badgering me AHHHHHHHHHH.

    i swear it makes me what to cry.

    if i went to a normal bar and some guy i wasn't interested in tries this i can just say f**k off or if im feeling more polite just say no and walk away but at a SC im trying to earn money and can't just do that.
    i wish guys would just accept it as a service for a fantasy - a transaction and leave their neediness at home.

    sorry if this turned into a rant but its so frustrating and i feel like i need a holiday coz im so mentally exhausted.

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    Okay, I (think) I see what you are trying to ask here.

    And no, it doesn't bother me a bit. The thing that gets you confused, I think, is thinking that we are attaching emotions to our customers. We aren't. As long as I don't lie, cheat, steal, or do something that crosses my moral boundaries, I give myself a "check at the door" emotional inventory -- an d I leave it there. When I am at work, I am selling ideas to you. To be a good saleswoman, I can't have my own personal feelings tied up in it. So I can't really feel bad about anything I'm doing, because I've set up my boundaries and code of ethics before I hit the door, and after that, it's not emotional at all.

    Personally, I provide great GFE. It's my knack, it's the something that I am really good at, the something that gets me lots of regulars. As such, it also gets me a ton of guys who can't seem to seperate the fantasy from the reality. I never lie to them about where things are going - they know upfront. Anything after that is their own issue - they are a big boy, and it really doesn't bother me if he has no money management skills. I can't afford to get all emotional, and be his mommy, or cut him off cause I think he might have too many feelings for me. It's my job, bottom line.

    Besides, men who decide they love me is what keeps me driving a Lexus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    yeh i didn't hold back answering this thread because last night was so much of a head f**k i felt pissed off coz this thread related to it.
    last night was a particularly bad night for guys trying to pick me up.
    every single customer except 1 last night asked me if they could have my number, could they meet OTC, would i be interested in dating them etc.
    i don't think most guys realise how mentally draining it is to keep a smile on my face and stay polite etc and dance for someone who is just constantly at u for more than what u are selling.

    im in my mid 20s and it doesnt stop 50 somethings trying to ask for my phone number i mean are they delusional?
    and to have to act polite and be nice etc "oh we can't date customers" etc while trying to get on with the dancing while these idiots just keep badgering me AHHHHHHHHHH.

    i swear it makes me what to cry.

    if i went to a normal bar and some guy i wasn't interested in tries this i can just say f**k off or if im feeling more polite just say no and walk away but at a SC im trying to earn money and can't just do that.
    i wish guys would just accept it as a service for a fantasy - a transaction and leave their neediness at home.

    sorry if this turned into a rant but its so frustrating and i feel like i need a holiday coz im so mentally exhausted.
    Must have been something in the water yesterday because I had a really bad night for pick-up-lines too. Every other guy was all, "I would love to take you out for lunch" or "Let me take you shopping tomorrow." Ugh. No thanks, old man, you're old enough to be my grandfather. Just give me your money and get out.

    And, yes, that's seriously what I think. These men come to strip clubs knowing that they're going to spend money. I go to strip clubs to make money. It works out for all of us. Why the hell would I regret that?

    Please stop trying to shift responsibility to the dancer and learn how to control your own wallet if it's out of hand. Cuz it's not my problem if you can't pay your bills. I have bills to pay too, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post
    He's not buying a product is he? I believe that person is buying a fantasy. A hopeful fulfillment. That person is emptying his wallet to get satisfaction on that experience. You girls know full well that it's not going to happen and you know the males instincts. Do you not sit with the guy, carry on a conversation flirting and teasing every moment trying to persuade and "sell" an illusion?
    Caveat emptor - yes the guy is buying a fantasy, but why the hell is he trying to date a dancer? There are easier and cheaper ways of getting a date.

    I'll put it in capital letters: it's a BUSINESS. The girls are earning a living a letting guys pay to see their bodies. It really is as basic as that. And to earn that living, they play the role of the "stripper". Yeah, they play along and tease guys with the hope of a date - it's what ALL salemen do in some form or another.

    Please don't make the case that guy's go into strip venues for starry eyed idealism - most go in because they think the dancers attractive and they want to get (to put it bluntly) into their knickers. Not the dancer's fault if a guy has unrealistic expectations.

    I'll give you my estimate from personal experience: 1 - 2% of dancers date their customers and >98% don't. Not good odds for getting a date.

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    ...are you not taking advantage of the guy that has his heart set on the situation? His heart set on you and spends it all to just be in your world. You have no feeling in regards to this?
    And this sweet hearted innocent went into the club with no ulterior motive? He went into the club with the intent of getting into the dancer's knickers - Unfortunately 98% of dancers have no interest in dating people they meet at work. They're entirely capable of getting dates when they're not at work.

    Why try and blame a dancer for earning a living? Why not blame the guy for having unrealistic expectations and/or ulterior motives? He's not being forced to spend his money. He's spending it because of his ulterior motives - he wants to date a stripper. Not a person - a stripper.

    Dancers outside of work are generally nothing like dancers at work - so the guy is trying to date an illussion. How the hell does he know what the dancer is like outside of work and if he'll even like the REAL her?

    Caveat emptor. Don't blame the dancers for earing a living - blame the customers for having unrealistic expectations. No-one forced them into the strip club to spend their money.

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    And no, it doesn't bother me a bit. The thing that gets you confused, I think, is thinking that we are attaching emotions to our customers. We aren't. As long as I don't lie, cheat, steal, or do something that crosses my moral boundaries, I give myself a "check at the door" emotional inventory -- an d I leave it there. When I am at work, I am selling ideas to you. To be a good saleswoman, I can't have my own personal feelings tied up in it. So I can't really feel bad about anything I'm doing, because I've set up my boundaries and code of ethics before I hit the door, and after that, it's not emotional at all.

    Personally, I provide great GFE. It's my knack, it's the something that I am really good at, the something that gets me lots of regulars. As such, it also gets me a ton of guys who can't seem to seperate the fantasy from the reality. I never lie to them about where things are going - they know upfront. Anything after that is their own issue - they are a big boy, and it really doesn't bother me if he has no money management skills. I can't afford to get all emotional, and be his mommy, or cut him off cause I think he might have too many feelings for me. It's my job, bottom line.

    Besides, men who decide they love me is what keeps me driving a Lexus.
    Thank you and good answer.

    All I am asking is a feeling for the situation. From what I can tell from some of you so far is that you do feel guilty immediately and divert the question as if I am making a personal attack upon the dancer. Like this comment:
    Please stop trying to shift responsibility to the dancer and learn how to control your own wallet if it's out of hand. Cuz it's not my problem if you can't pay your bills. I have bills to pay too, you know.
    Its a simple question on your conscious and thats all. I personally find it interesting that some want to shift blame onto the customer even before answering the question. Is that a sign of a guilty conscious?

    I do not have these problems in SC's and I am not activating a vendetta against dancers. Its a simple question that I personally have been curious about for a long time. I have seen dancers milk a customer that she knows full well he is "in love" with her. All I want to know is what is going through her mind at that moment. And obviously -she doesn't regret it.

    I made a $400 sporting bet with a guy and won. I didn't regret doing it-but I felt bad and sorry for the guy as he had to tell his wife that some of his house payment went into my pocket.
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    **A Code of Honor: Never approach a friend's girlfriend or wife with mischief as your goal. There are just too many women in the world to justify that sort of dishonorable behavior. Unless she's really attractive.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Masscott View Post
    He's not buying a product is he? I believe that person is buying a fantasy.
    Speaking only for myself, I don't buy fantasies. I buy lap dances. They are most certainly a product.

    A hopeful fulfillment. That person is emptying his wallet to get satisfaction on that experience. You girls know full well that it's not going to happen and you know the males instincts.
    I hoped to fulfill the entertainer bouncing her ass on my groin. She made it happen and I paid her accordingly. No, I did not imagine it. No, I didn't see it a lame consolation prize I had to settle for instead of the sex I apparently really wanted. If I wanted the whole enchilada, I'd consult a gal who specializes in that sort of thing.
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    Personally, no I don't feel sorry for the guys. It's not like we're holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to spend their rent money on me. They come to a strip club knowing full well that they are either going to spend their money or not. We don't hypnotize these guys into spending their money on us! I especially don't feel sorry when the guy (I've actually have had this happen) comes in with his unemployment check and spends it either. Why should we have heavy consciences because some retard doesn't know when to stop??

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    Masscot, you are looking for a dancer's deep emotional response, and I think it's there, but you're missing it. Look around on the board--it's everywhere. It's bewilderment. You see it every time a dancer posts "what are they thinking?" or "What do they want?" or "Do they think we really like them/this/that?"

    Most dancers, including myself, are utterly bewildered why an otherwise responsible, grown-ass man would spend hundreds of dollars and hours of his time convincing himself that a stripper really likes him, is going to sleep with him, will call him...what have you. We're not talking about the mentally enfeebled here. These are CEOs, lawyers, hard-working folks who night-after-night will themselves to believe that the fantasy is, or will soon be, or somewhere in the future might could possibly be, an incredible reality. We, the dancers, don't even need to do much for a man to spin this story. It's pathetic. We call it pathetic in the term PL. So maybe we have a little sympathy, but on the whole it's difficult for us to understand because to us it's so damned obvious. Do you feel sorry for a criminal when he shows up to a 'free TV' sting operation? Maybe--but at the same time--DUH! HELLO?! WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!

    So, that's my perspective.

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