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    I have been reading some posts on here about OTC relationships guys try to have with dancers. I have met two dancers in the club I go to OTC. The first time It happened, she told me her address and I met the dancer at her apartment. She had been saying she was planning to leave the club soon. I had been her regular for about 4 months. The dancer ended up moving to California 2 weeks after we met outside the club. The second time I met a dancer outside the club, me and her ended up going to a bar and then hitting up a casino. I was actually low on money that night, so she lent me money there which I paid back that night.
    What I am trying to point out is, both times I met a dancer OTC, I did not have to spend money on her. I actually made a profit at the casino that night after getting lent money.
    I have recently gotten hints from another girl at the club that she wants to meet me OTC. Whenever this happens, the dancer themselves initiate it by giving me their number and name and telling me to call them. I never ask for it but oblige when they offer.

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    Default Re: OTC encounters with dancers which dont require $$

    Consider yourself lucky. Just about every single dancer I've hung out with hasl eventually told me we ought to have lunch with them sometime. (I've actually been out with 2 so far.) I think it's primarily a tactic to keep your attention. I wish they'd realize that if I come back to see them a second time, they have my attention. They don't have to feed me a bunch of bull to get me to spend some money on them.

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    This is confusing.

    Either guys bitch about dancers sucking their wallets dry leading them on, or they assume if a girl hangs out with a guy OTC for no money she has an agenda.

    People are gonna do what they're gonna do. I personally think it's extraordinarily stupid to invite a customer back to your apartment, even if it's just to hang out, and even more so after just meeting. Even if she was about to move.

    The girl who gave you money to gamble with was a good one. Were you low on cash because you spent too much at the strip club? I mean, it's good you won and all that, but I don't ask someone I just met for money. That's just weird, sorry.

    So yeah, some chicks will just hang out with customers for no $, some will want money and some won't see anyone outside that club. Dancers and customers need to get it through their heads that not everyone is gonna go the same route.

    For all the guys that get pissy that their favorite girl won't see them OTC, suck it up and keep looking. You'll probably meet someone willing eventually. Will she have "an agenda"? Possibly. Or maybe not. But some men just assume that seeing customers outside the club is supposed to be part of the job just because there are some women that do it. The job is to dance for money. Anything else that's open to interpretation by dancer or customer can be potentially messy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinaDaisy View Post
    "The girl who gave you money to gamble with was a good one. Were you low on cash because you spent too much at the strip club? I mean, it's good you won and all that, but I don't ask someone I just met for money. That's just weird, sorry."



    We ended up getting to the casino around 3 AM on a early Sunday morning. I had already been there earlier that night. She had called me up at 1:30 AM telling me she wanted to go there later and I was happy to go again with her. I had explained to her that I had lost some money there earlier so I was a little low on cash and she said that was fine.
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    I am a college student.

    Once, I walked into a club and after paying the cover, I walked over to the stage.

    The dancer was nude and had her back to me at the time. I put a dollar or two on the stage and when she turned around--It was one of my classmates!


    Amazingly, the next girl up was also a former classmate!


    This was a little awkward. I didn't buy any dances from them, but I did tip on stage.



    I never mentioned it to them when I saw them around campus, either.




    That is the only time I've ever recognized a girl in a strip club, or recognized a stripper outside the club.

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    Default Re: OTC encounters with dancers which dont require $$

    was the point of this post to ask something or just to brag that every stripper u meet can't help but give you her number?

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    ^^Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallrvdrul View Post
    What I am trying to point out is, both times I met a dancer OTC, I did not have to spend money on her.
    You must be an amazing date.

    Look, I understand what you really meant to say was, "I didn't need to spend any money on a dancer in order to get her to see me OTC."

    The rest of your post suggests that you understand the principle that for OTC, the dancer does the choosing. This alone usually takes money out of the equation (I'm not getting into the billion interlocking exceptions.)

    But for God's sake, once you are out with any woman, dancer or no, I hope you do not consider the lack of spending money on her to be some sort of laudatory accomplishment. I can think of nothing that is more disrespectful, selfish and ultimately depressing than a cheapskate. The total absence of generosity is the ultimate buzzkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moscm View Post
    I am a college student.

    Once, I walked into a club and after paying the cover, I walked over to the stage.

    The dancer was nude and had her back to me at the time. I put a dollar or two on the stage and when she turned around--It was one of my classmates!


    Amazingly, the next girl up was also a former classmate!


    This was a little awkward. I didn't buy any dances from them, but I did tip on stage.



    I never mentioned it to them when I saw them around campus, either.




    That is the only time I've ever recognized a girl in a strip club, or recognized a stripper outside the club.


    This is....random

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    I just don't get why this even has to be question.

    I love ninadaisy more and more every day for comments like this:


    Either guys bitch about dancers sucking their wallets dry leading them on, or they assume if a girl hangs out with a guy OTC for no money she has an agenda.
    About a year ago I made a joke about a secret stripper handshake or something and that's how they knew there where other strippers around. Like a branding. And since that's the case , we could assume they all have a "Meeting of the Bruces" where they discuss a hard/fast plan of action and they all follow it or they are out of the club and lose their free air miles and day spa treatments.

    We're ALL fucking individuals.

    I mean, really, re-read your thread, What are you asking?

    Now take the WORD stripper out of it and say you met her at a coffee shop, no seriously, without profiling, I want to know why it WOULDN'T factor into it. So how would you react to the same situation, if you met the girl while she was selling you a latte?

    YOU SHOULDN'T BE SEEING SOMEONE WHO WORKS MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE WHEN YOU LACK THE ABILITY TO TELL IF THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB OR NOT.

    Oh and TOO:

    You must be an amazing date.
    I am! And I have never, EVER, EVER had to be concerned about the money. EVER.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    Call me an SC n00b, but I can't imagine an OTC encounter with a dancer (or any other woman, for that matter) that doesn't involve money--at least not one that's enjoyable. I mean, I like to eat ( <<< just look at my avatar!) and I like a decent red wine with my steak. That all costs money, and I have zero problem spending some. It's not about you being loaded to the gills with green or the woman being a golddigger; it's that everyday social situations that are enjoyable tend to have some degree of financial cost associated with them, and that's not a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    But for God's sake, once you are out with any woman, dancer or no, I hope you do not consider the lack of spending money on her to be some sort of laudatory accomplishment. I can think of nothing that is more disrespectful, selfish and ultimately depressing than a cheapskate. The total absence of generosity is the ultimate buzzkill.
    Amen to that TOO. Once it goes to OTC she is a lady first and should be treated as such. Her occupation is irrelevant....except for occasional bragging rights of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Call me an SC n00b, but I can't imagine an OTC encounter with a dancer (or any other woman, for that matter) that doesn't involve money--at least not one that's enjoyable. I mean, I like to eat ( <<< just look at my avatar!) and I like a decent red wine with my steak. That all costs money, and I have zero problem spending some.
    Well, there are the times when the dancer buys.

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    Meeting a dancer OTC without spending money is unknown to me. I live in the real world, not some fantasyland where a dancer will see me for free.
    I date strippers, especially if they love to model for me.



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    OTC encounters with dancers which dont require $$

    It's called stalking but I don't recommend it.

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    Reciprocity is underrated.

    Most women still like being courted (read: being taken out and treated) but many women don't have a problem getting the occasional meal or whatnot.

    It's the assumption that chaps our asses.

    Mast: for some people it's still very, very foreign that people are individuals. For instance, I was out in Sydney tonight and a girl threw her drink on me because I was American, by her own admission. AFTER I gave her a light! After throwing her drink on me she asked if I was a Republican or Democrat. Oh well, at least it was clear and didn't stain.
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    yet another thread where the OP talks about "strippers" as if they're all some collective robot beings. "dude, you don't HAVE to have money to get them OTC"

    "them"

    *sigh*

    and then he posts as if amazed that we can actualy do things contrary to stereotypical beliefs. it's almost like saying "this one time i went on a date with a jewish guy and he actualy paid for a nice dinner!"

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    Just for clarification, you didn't meet a stripper OTC. You went on a date with a woman.

    Metting a stripper OTC = a business transaction.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    The bottom line is this, men:

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING COMING IN THERE LOOKING FOR A DATE? I have guys berate me all the time about "following my heart" and "doing what is right--don't be so all about the money"

    WHAT DO YOU THINK MY JOB DESCRIPTION IS?

    You honest to god think I'm looking for a boyfriend?

    DON'T YOU KNOW HOW PATHETIC WE THINK IT IS THAT YOU ARE COMING IN LOOKING FOR A GIRLFRIEND? BEING SERIOUS ABOUT IT?

    I never have and never will see someone OTC but if it happened YOU BET IT WOULDN'T BE "NORMAL"--she doesn't like you, fool.

    LOSERS.

    p.s. obviously I'm just talking about the ones who seriously dream of romance OTC--not just regular patrons.

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    Hope I didn't sound TOO harsh or psycho with that one--but come on.

    But something I thought of tho, on the other hand, why she went out with you that night to the casino? Sometimes I think it might be harder for us to have a social life, I won't lie, sometimes a decent guy will approach me and it will go thru my head "maybe it would be kind of nice." I'd still NEVER do it tho--rather be alone.

    When I started dancing, fortunately I had a great bf that I was with over 2 years when we broke up.

    It was recent that we did, so now I spend a lot of time

    *alone*
    *lying about what I do for a living* (to men I think I'd like to date at some point, when I'm 'over this')
    *sleeping during the daytime*
    *not in school*

    All of these are def conducive to like, not meeting men, and sorry but let's face it, some of them WILL judge you--I think it's def in my best interest to not tell new friends right away.

    See, I can be sympathetic too. =)

    But I still stick with what I said, and I'd never be that girl, rather be alone.

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    Cinnamon, not even her real stage name but the one I gave her, and I went from the 'regular customer and everything professional' relationship to an OTC friendship that has lasted for quite a few years now.

    I was her regular for several months, but then I developed heart problems and she was hitting a dancer's retirement age. Also, both of us were having a bad time with romantic-type relationships, and so naturally our conversations drifted into the personal side. By this time, I had seen
    her naked so many times that the thrill was gone and basically we were both just going through the motions (one day we got laughing so hard that she couldn't finish the dance).

    Then one day she said, "Look, let's stop this and just be friends." She gave me her phone number, I never called her Cinnamon again, we grew even closer friendwise (even shared her apartment while I finalized my divorce), she found a great boyfriend, and I moved to Vegas on a disability pension.

    Now we just exchange the occasional email, having moved on in our lives.
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