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    Ok I have a question and I wonder if anyone else seems to have this problem. Guys at work always try nasty things with me that they dont/havent tried with other girls who have danced for them! WTF? Do I look like a dirty-nasty-extras bitch or what? I dont get it one bit, not at all. I have asked this question on the blue side to try and get a customers point of view in regards to what makes them try something with one girl and not another. I didnt get an answer at all. I am not a super friendly looking girl, I wear mostly black and I dont look really innocent or naive. On the other hand I also dont look or act like a slutty whore-girl, they see me giving dances that are clean...nothing going on there. Still I get alot of guys who try to do stupid shit, which I understand for the most part-they try to get away with whatever they can. But if I think a guy looks creepy/handsy/licker whatever and a girl I like/know well has danced for him already, I will ask her..."is that guy normal and/or decent?" If she says yes he is nice/normal then chances are I will go over there...it never fails that he will try and pull some shit. Try to lick, kiss, suck, touch kitty, touch asshole basically anything or everything. WHY? Why do they try this stuff with me and not the other girls? One girl told me that before all her dances she sets out "dance guidelines" and tells the guy if he breaks a rule the dance is over and he still has to pay. Sounds like a lovely plan in theory, but isnt that the ultimate in mood killers? I mean its one thing to tell a guy this who you think you might have a problem with during a dance but not everyone deserves such a harsh speech. Not to mention being this crass might effect the money he was going to spend on you if he finds it insulting or thinks that you are judging him. I just dont understand why a guy would "choose" you to be the one he tries something with, especially when he has watched you give other dances and sees nothing to warrant this type of behavior. Also my club is completely out in the open when it comes to floor dances, nothing dirty can happen on the floor without everyone seeing it so the "maybe the other dancer was letting it happen" scenario is out the window. Anyone with any info on why this keeps happening to me, please tell me!

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    Hmmmm-it sounds to me like they are acting like little kids testing boundaries and seeing what they can/can't get away with whenever they dance with someone new. I am almost absolutely certain you are not the only person they have tried this with. If they have the propensity towards that type of behavior, they will test the boundaries and limits of everyone they get a dance from in the hopes/expectation that they will find what they are looking for. I'm sorry you have to deal with these jerks-they should know better!

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    How do you know they didn't try that stuff with the other girls? Because the other girls told you? --I wouldn't trust that info if that's the case.

    I'm thinking they DO try it with other girls, and perhaps they get away with it, but the other girls simply lie...

    You might be surprised what people can get away with 'out in the open'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    How do you know they didn't try that stuff with the other girls? Because the other girls told you? --I wouldn't trust that info if that's the case.

    I'm thinking they DO try it with other girls, and perhaps they get away with it, but the other girls simply lie...

    You might be surprised what people can get away with 'out in the open'.

    I would tend to agree with you BUT I only ask and trust the word of the girls I am friends with...some girls are liars and would say anything to not look dirty but some girls who you know well and are friends with outside the club, you know they arent lying. I am only speaking in those instances, I never trust the word of a random dancer! haha...that would like asking how much they have made, its all up for debate. But no, I am talking if I ask a girl I "know" and she says they are ok and they still try shit with me! I dont get it.

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    Yes. Clearly you look like a dirty bitch.

    C'mon, honey, this is a silly question. You're a stripper. To them, we ALL look like dirty bitches.
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    DAMMIT!!! Jenny, I know that! Thats not my question, thats just the only conclusion I could come to as to why they would do that shit to me. All I want to know is why they do things to me that they dont do to other girl! Alright I have a second scenario...
    At my club the guys my "lay down" to tip at the stage and we kinda go above them on our knees. We have clearly posted rules at the door, saying when you tip a girl on stage, keep your head DOWN, arms to your side and keep your tongue in your mouth! Bouncers enforce these rules in full effect with no leniancy and no questions asked. They repeat these rules everytime a girl is on th stage and a customer lays down, over the mic, so everyone hears.
    Guys always lift their head on me! They could have laid down for 10 other dancers proir to me and I still get lifted on!! I actaully thought for a while that the body spray I used must have smelled to much like food, and that was why, because they wanted to eat it! No only that, when a guy lifts on me I dont just stand there and wait for the bouncers to eject him, I do some of the dirty work myself...Always depending on the serverity of course because sometimes they dont mean to raise their head...like they need to adjust their shirt or something and then remember "oh shit I cant do that"
    But if those assholes straight up bury their face in my snatch...thats no accident so I will jaws of steel their head between my thighs, punch them in the face or cock or stomach...

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    I think the general suggestion is that it is largely your imagination. That the same thing happens to other girls and you just don't notice. Guys, if they are going to try it, are going to try on someone. Like at some point he has to be like "so what will happen if I lift my head" and you are just getting your share, and it feels like more to you because it's you.

    Alternatively, if you are sure this is not the case and you are sure that it is something related specifically to you: then, again - yes - it is clearly something you are doing, saying or look like. I can't imagine that it would be about what you look like because, as I said (albeit humourously), we all look pretty much like dirty bitches. So if you really want to do self-examination I would examine more what you say or do different from these other girls more than what you look like. Regarding the stage tipping specifically - before you do whatever you do reinforce specifically with the customer that he cannot move. Just whisper in his ear "you can't move, okay?"

    Alternatively again - try checking SCL or TUSCL for your stage name. That shit can sometimes be a bitch.

    Finally - I was making fun you a little, but it was intended to be gentle and inclusive. There is no need to froth at the mouth.
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    I dont froth at the mouth, you didnt say anything out of line. I agree that I might just be being paraniod, thinking it only happens to me. When it comes to stage, it happens to everyone from time to time, it just seems to happen more frequentally to me! If I have 17 guys all laying on a stage I dont really have the time to re-establish the rules to each guy...It kinda wiggle wiggle---NEXT!

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    So I guess its decided... I am apparentally giving off more of a hooker vibe then the other girls...haha Which makes my head spin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Alternatively again - try checking SCL or TUSCL for your stage name. That shit can sometimes be a bitch
    I have checked on SCL but not TUSCL...

    SCL doesnt mention anything negative about me, only posts from other girls asking about me when I had been gone for a while working in St. Louis...

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    I do not think you look dirty...BUT..from a guys point of view...is that you in your avatar? And do you still have pink hair? And are you the only girl there with differant hair? Guys see any girl who is "differant" in any way as being possibly looser. So ..."well, none of the other girls will let me do XXX, but SHE'S got pink hair...she MUST be wilder then them"

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    alternatively maybe u are good at developing rapport with customers during the dance and they feel comfortable with u and hence think they can get away with more.
    i dont think it would have anything to do with looking slutty etc coz as jenny said it is a SC after all.
    i always find the opposite that no one messes with me (well sometimes) but i always see other girls getting the touchy arseholes and i wonder what i am doing RIGHT to avoid them - is it that i approach nicer types or i have the dont fuck with me look. i thought maybe it's coz im older and maybe they think they will get away with the younger like 18ish dancers coz they think they are naive etc.

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    Honey, I want you to think about what I am saying,
    Every dancer in the club get guys whom make crazy jestures or try to grab, kiss, or fuck them in the club. Now there are custy thats not like that I call, the good ones. It dose not mean you are a cheap whore or you look dirty. A lot of dancer customer. Try to come in the club and outsmart the dancer to do stuff they want, or they come in the club just looking to be outsmarted. Some might come in there for friendship.

    A lot of custy come in to the club looking to crazy shit. So you have brush the salt off your shoulder and keep truckin! You know you are worth more than that! What girl that dance never had a man be a total dick head or jerk to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    How do you know they didn't try that stuff with the other girls? Because the other girls told you? --I wouldn't trust that info if that's the case.

    I'm thinking they DO try it with other girls, and perhaps they get away with it, but the other girls simply lie...

    You might be surprised what people can get away with 'out in the open'.

    so true.they are testing the waters, so and so let me go this far let me see how far this one will let me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronfl View Post
    I do not think you look dirty...BUT..from a guys point of view...is that you in your avatar? And do you still have pink hair? And are you the only girl there with differant hair? Guys see any girl who is "differant" in any way as being possibly looser. So ..."well, none of the other girls will let me do XXX, but SHE'S got pink hair...she MUST be wilder then them"

    Just a thought....
    No I dont have pink hair, I never had pink hair, I just photoshopped it pink and everyone thought it looked cool so I kept the pic... I have blonde hair. I am one of the tamer looking girls at my club on certain nights...its like suicide girl central! haha other nights I am a odd-ball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by echomadison View Post
    No I dont have pink hair, I never had pink hair, I just photoshopped it pink and everyone thought it looked cool so I kept the pic... I have blonde hair. I am one of the tamer looking girls at my club on certain nights...its like suicide girl central! haha other nights I am a odd-ball!
    LOL..Ok so much for that theory!! You are prob just "lucky" enough to get them just when they are ready to try. When 2 or 3 other girls have gotten then hot and now they are going to try to go one step further. Do you get this when you are the first to dance for guys?

    Or...if it does look like suicide girl central..maybe you ARE the differant one. 'hey shes a blonde...they're all sluts"(yeah..I've gotten this before..he got introduced to the back of my hand )
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    Default Re: Do I look like a dirty bitch?

    Okay, I tried to find where you posted this question on the blue side and couldn't so I'll just give my answer here and hope I don't get hit too hard.

    This is just an idea, maybe a crazy one but here it goes. Could it possibly be that these "predatory" patrons are doing this because they percieve you to be more vunerable than the other dancers? Some guys do look for the dancers they think are vunerable in one way or another or they look for dancers who they believe won't stand up for themselves.

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    ^ What he said. You probably look/carry yourself like someone who can be/has been victimized.



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    Well I will never know what they think, obviously, but I dont think that is the case. I am not a very nice looking person, people describe me as "always looking mad" even though I dont necessarily see it myself. I would be the 3rd person in line to kick a customers ass, if need be or if they got outta line. I am one of the girls who always gets picked by customers to do the "bachelor sacrifice" (where we beat their ass) be I supposedly "look mean"... Who knows maybe they can see through my facade, and they know I am not "really" a mean person and they want to take advantage of that. Who knows, but I do know that I am a bitch especially at work so I cant see that being a reason.

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    Are you new at your club? Or do you work fewer hours that many of the other girls? In that case, these customers may already know every one else's boundaries, but still want to push the envelope with you cuz they don't know you.

    Or, maybe one girl's opinion of "mannerly customer behavior" just happens to be your opinion of "appallingly handsy."


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    Been at this club on and off for almost 5 years...mostly I would agree that peoples definition of "handsy" or "difficult" can vary greatly but in this particular situation I tend to be specific. These girls are my friends and we all have been dancing for a while now and some longer than others, so we define unruly pretty much the same way. I dont work very often, so who knows if this is the case...but my friends would tell me if they had danced for him before. I asked my regular yesterday and he didnt have any answers either...
    All I can think is that I am tending to agree with what Cameronfl said, that maybe I look different and they think that I am a "bad girl" so they try stupid shit. Though most of the girls have a alternative look, maybe I am the odd one out, as I have a more generalized look...then some nights when the "suicide girl troupe" isnt working, I am the alternative looking one! I guess it doesnt matter what I do, I am gonna get screwed with no matter what until I start busting open heads. Maybe I should start carrying a mini-taser for guys who get out of line?

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