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    So last night this guy came in that spent a good amount of money on me the night before. So I go up to him right away and he barely remembered me, said he was extremely drunk the night before. Anyway, I sit with him and he buys me a drink and about 10 minutes later, he hands me six 20 dollar bills. He saw a girl on stage and asked me about her cuz he said she was really pretty. I talk to this girl at work, but we're not like good friends or anything. She was having a bad night so I approach her in the dressing room and tell her to come sit with us. Well, when she came and sat with us, he totally ignored me, so I said, "Thanks for the tip hun, I'll come back around and say hi". I figured, well at least I got $120 for just sitting with him. Well, she ended up staying with this guy for the rest of the night and when I'd be on stage, they would go up together and throw a shitload of $1 bills at the girl who was NEXT to me on stage. I mean, I hooked her up and she doesn't even have him throw a single dollar at me. It wasn't his choice to go up and throw that money at the girl next to me, it was hers because those two girls always run around together at the club. I'm just saying, she could show a little appreciation and have him tip me too!!! This was everytime I had to go on stage, she would drag him up there and have him throw a lot of dollars at her. I decided to go back up to the table and sat with them for a minute and he buys me another drink and hands me a $100 bill. I saw him hand her 4 $100s!! She already had two in her garter from him so that's $600 bucks. I know it's the customer's choice, he obviously just like her more, but I didn't even get a "thank you" from her! I really hooked this girl up and fucked myself. So at the end of the night in the dressing room, I go up to her and say, "just remember, return the favor for me sometime" and winked at her. She didn't say anything. And to top it off, she gave the dj $30. Um, that's not 10%. She really fucked him on her tip out. I don't know what the point of this is, I guess just to vent. I just wanted her to at least say thanks. Am I overreating????

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    I don't think you're over reacting...I'd be pissed, too. Some people just have no manners.
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    I can understand how you'd be pissed. She could have at least said thanks and slid you a some cash. But tipping the DJ 10% is ridiculous, I think. Why the fuck does he get 10%? He didn't do shit! $30 is plenty.
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    I don't think you are overreacting, but I've seen this way too many times.
    Such is the nature of the business. Some girls help each other out, and most are only out to help themselves.
    Look at it this way, at least you got $220 dollars from the guy, for basically doing nothing.
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    Oh, and I forgot----

    The whole tipping the dj 10% is ridiculous. I would understand if you were on stage and you made all this money because of HIM (rare), but why should that girl have to tip the dj off of the money she made sitting with the customer?

    $30 is more than enough. They aren't taking off their clothes or anything, and in my opinion, an IPOD is just as good, if not better, than a dj.
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    Ugh-some of the women in this business just make me want to scream! Are SWers, the only NORMAL strippers out there???? You bet your ass I'd thank someone who hooked me up with a customer like that, tip her on stage and hell, maybe even give her a tip myself. Not to mention returning the favor when I could. Don't worry, that money will probably be gone in a few days either on drugs or bailing her loser boyfriend out of jail....

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    Quote Originally Posted by francescadubois View Post
    I can understand how you'd be pissed. She could have at least said thanks and slid you a some cash. But tipping the DJ 10% is ridiculous, I think. Why the fuck does he get 10%? He didn't do shit! $30 is plenty.
    Well, we don't have house fees, just 10% to the dj and 5% to the bartender. Tipping the housemom is optional. Normally, girls don't tip 100% honestly, but pretty close. I know, I hate how we're the ones taking our clothes off and dealing with the men and have to tip them a chunk of what we make.
    I agree with you nychaos, it's just the way the business is I guess. For now on, I'm looking out just for myself. If another girl is having a bad night, too fucking bad for her. I'm still mad about it, I need to get over it.

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    Same thing happened to me. Two guys asked me about VIP and asked about this one girl. She's not someone I hang out with and I would have rather hooked up one of my friends but i figured if they asked for her I better get her, didn't want to miss out an a VIP for myself.
    So we each get a VIP and I don't even get a thank you. But I'm not surprised.

    I've got a few close firends at work that will hook me up when they can and I do the same for them, they're the ones I go to first when guys ask for another girl.

    I'd hooked my one firend up a couple of times and she hasn't been able to return the favor yet (her custies don't double up) so she came in on her day off and tipped the shit outta me on stage to pey me bck for looking after her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funlatina82 View Post
    Well, we don't have house fees, just 10% to the dj and 5% to the bartender. Tipping the housemom is optional. Normally, girls don't tip 100% honestly, but pretty close. I know, I hate how we're the ones taking our clothes off and dealing with the men and have to tip them a chunk of what we make.
    I agree with you nychaos, it's just the way the business is I guess. For now on, I'm looking out just for myself. If another girl is having a bad night, too fucking bad for her. I'm still mad about it, I need to get over it.
    That's understandable, but I'm still not giving up 10%. I'll give whatever I think is reasonable. I am really tired of all the people, particularly men, with their greasy fucking palms out when we're the ones dancing naked on stage. Fuck that crap.

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    ^^ eh; I tip the DJs ridiculously well. Because in our club, they pick the music (we write down what we like on an index card and they--hopefully!--pick songs from the card to play for you.) I am one of those girls that would MUCH rather dance nonstop onstage for 8 hours than grind some nasty guy's dick; I love performing onstage and IT SHOWS. on nights can leave a stage set with $40-50.

    BUT, I simply can't put on a magnetic, hot, creative show that gets people's attention with shitty run-of-the-mill music. Can't do it! And the DJs we have now are great--I take care of them, and they take care of me. I know it's different in every club, but for me, it's so worth it to pay the DJ more. If I get onstage even 5 times a night (low estimate) and make $40 each time (partly b/c I am able to put on a truly entertaining show b/c I have good music), that's an extra $200 I made without having to hustle, deal with bullshit or fend off Signore Octopus.

    Anyway, back on topic. It was incredibly rude of that girl to blow you off when you hooked her up. On the bright side, now you know who NOT to waste your time helping in the future!
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    this happends a lot...
    i try to help everyone.. but this one case was a little different...
    theres this not so attractive/out going girl who just always looks sad..
    well some guy was talking to her and i walk by and he grabs me and starts askng to dance when i know very well she was trying to get a dance... so i just say.. oh no.. im a little tired right now...you 2 go.. and walk away.. and so she gets her dance...

    then not even like 20 minutes later... shes walks past me walking a differnt guy to vip and this guy also grabs me and was like... i been looking for you! and he just stops and has me on one side of him and her on the other, and you can tell he was thinkin, which one should i take...
    so i said something along the lines of like... ohh..cant choose? lets all go then...
    and he laughs and was like no no.. and was leaning towards me, and it was becoming evident that it was my dance.. but i felt bad for her and was again like...you know what, i'm exhausted..you two go have fun..and left...

    at then end of the night i saw the girl and she didnt even smile or anything.. just looked at me like nothing... i mean i didnt expect her to be like, oh god thanks.. it was only like 2 dances... but its the principle.. i coulda darn well took those but didnt...blah.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nychaos99 View Post
    Oh, and I forgot----

    They aren't taking off their clothes or anything, and in my opinion, an IPOD is just as good, if not better, than a dj.
    I made a similiar comment once and got run out of town.

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    Did she know the dude gave you $120 at one point and $100 later? If so she probably figured you got yours. I know if I was him, and I gave you $220 as a "finder's fee" and for a little hanging out, and her several hundred for being around for most of the evening, I'd figure everyone was all square -- I certainly wouldn't expect her to give you any of the money I gave her. I already gave you $220.

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    ^^ maybe, but not even saying thank you? RUDE.

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    ^^ maybe, but not even saying thank you? RUDE.
    Exactly. I'm not mad at HIM, I was upset that she showed absolutely no appreciation. I wasn't expecting money from her either. Just a thank u.

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    i think i help people out too much.. my regular came in and spent over a grand on each of us a week ago.. I guess i was in a "giving holiday mood".... i was the one who told him to bring her to the vip room with us.

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    Man, I really feel like just crying right now!! I just got home from work and this guy was in the club again. Well, instead of coming and telling me "Hey, this guy is back", she goes and gets the other girl who she was having him throw all the tips at. I debated if I should even go to their table and finally, after some of the other dancers who I told about this situation convinced me, I went over there. He got me a red bull and that was it. The two bitches kept sticking their tits in his face while he was trying to talk to me. I saw in one of their garters a couple $100 bills.

    I got royally fucked. She said she would return the favor, and uh, no she didn't. I even asked two other club regulars their opinions ( I wanted a customer's perspective) and they both told me I really got fucked over. Some of the other dancers are telling me I should say something to her. But I think I'm just gonna take it as a hard lesson learned. It just eats at me! bitches

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    Ugh. I wouldn't say anything if I were you. You won't change this bitch's attitude and you may make things harder for yourself. Screw her, though. I'd definitely tell the DJ that she's screwing him out of tip-out--just make sure he's cool enough to conceal his source for that info.

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    ^^^^^Yeah, I told him and she's too stupid to figure out that I'm the one who told him. He told me he would play her crappy music when she goes on stage. Not so much because of the money she fucked him on, but he also agrees that she really screwed me.

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    What is up with greedy bitches lately?? For example, last weekend this guy came in and wanted to take me to champagne and asked me if I'd like to bring up another girl. Well I was feeling nice because of the holiday spirit and brought up this one girl.We were up there for two hours (my choice) and she made $600!! Then the next nite she goes up to champagne with this other customer who also likes to have 2 dancers up there and it's the dancer's choice for who goes up there. So did she take me, nope. WTF?? I just made you $600 bitch and you can't even help me out?? GRRRRRRRR!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funlatina82 View Post
    Man, I really feel like just crying right now!! I just got home from work and this guy was in the club again. Well, instead of coming and telling me "Hey, this guy is back", she goes and gets the other girl who she was having him throw all the tips at. I debated if I should even go to their table and finally, after some of the other dancers who I told about this situation convinced me, I went over there. He got me a red bull and that was it. The two bitches kept sticking their tits in his face while he was trying to talk to me. I saw in one of their garters a couple $100 bills.

    I got royally fucked. She said she would return the favor, and uh, no she didn't. I even asked two other club regulars their opinions ( I wanted a customer's perspective) and they both told me I really got fucked over. Some of the other dancers are telling me I should say something to her. But I think I'm just gonna take it as a hard lesson learned. It just eats at me! bitches
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    Funlatina,
    I am with you, it's painfull and it did happened to me way too many times before. The was nothing you could do about the guy's prefference, hoverever,move on, avoid dealing with her(she will help HER girlfriends,not you) and simply cultivate your loyal customers to be safe. Also, try to work only with a very few selective girls you can trust, who woun't screw you over money(i know, it's very difficult, but still possible). I always insisted for other girls accept money from me in return of the favor of them introducing or reffering me.But i did not expect anything back, exept little "thank u",if i did it. However, i let "thank u" go with time. Basically, work hard and expect no thanks. A very few girls will return a favor-human nature. Or this business.

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    Ugh. This is the type of thing that's hard to get over. It's really shitty!!! But you have the right attitude- looking at it as a (hard) lesson learned....

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    you have every right to be upset...i know where your coming from i've been in situations simular to yours or even worse. ...hopefully somehow God and the universe will repay your good deed one day. next time don't help her out ...she wouldn't do the same for you.

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    This is exactly why I dont help other girls out anymore. Im sick of them thinking that they dont even have to say thank you or return the favor at all. We all make money if we help eachother out every now and then.

    But Ive been burned way to many times so I quit caring when girls arent making money.

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