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    I have seen this particular tipping "technique" a few times in recent months. It is always, without exception, a young (18-22) kid who acts like he thinks he's a hotshot. I've never seen someone over 22 do this.

    It is during a stage show (not a private). The kid will walk up stageside or stand up at the tip rail, and start peeling off 1's and literally throw them on the stage, very showy-like. Like James Caan throwing the money at that photographer whose camera he broke in the Godfather. The dancer is usually occupied with another customer or elsewhere on stage -- he's throwing the money down on the stage, not tipping her garter or G.

    I know that money is money -- but where are they getting this? Is this in a video somewhere that they're copying? It seems like some kind of visual announcement that "I'm a playa."

    Do girls care how they get their money? Does this annoy you?

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    That's about the least offensive tipping technique I can think of.

    Here are some bad ones:

    -Trying to slide hand down side of thong while tipping
    -Grabbing the girl in any way while tipping
    -Acting like she needs to do more for her dollar tip

    -Standing there with a wad of bills in front of you as if you are going to tip them and then only giving the girl a dollar after she's practically done backflips for you.

    Those are offensive. Someone giving me money for nothing is a compliment.
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    What's offensive about putting money on the stage? That wouldn't bother me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    What's offensive about putting money on the stage? That wouldn't bother me at all.
    I don't think putting money on the stage is offensive. I just think that flinging it up there, and posing like you're the pimp daddy of all pimp daddies, when you're really just scattering a few 1's around, is just kind of weird.

    Maybe it's a generational thing.

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    Its a baby money shower and it draws attention to the stage, no I cant imagine any girl being offended by it. The guy gets to look like a mac daddy...the dancer gets to look appreciated(which usually gets other guys to appreciate her since many people are sheep)...so it's win -win.


    No...and offensive tipping technique would be the old guy yesterday, who tipped me a dollar on stage while trying to slide his hands into my thong. He actually said with his half toothless grin "I cheat..." so I told him "great...i kick, so be careful" and pulled my shoe back....and yes, if he hadnt pulled his hand away, he would have gotten a stilleto to the head. Then he told me I shouldnt be such an "ice queen"...THAT was offensive.
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    I think it's only weird to other customers personally.

    When guys do money showers here all you hear is other guys bitching about "Who does he think he is".

    Maybe they think it makes them look cheap? Or maybe they don't want her to pay more attention to the guy throwing the money than she does on them?

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    Let me explain my thought just a bit more. Throwing money at someone (as opposed to sending it to them, handing it to them, or any other normal manner of transfer) is a cultural exhibition of contempt. This is exactly why Coppolla had James Caan throw the money at the photographer in that scene in the Godfather -- he was contempuously saying, "yeah I kicked your ass and broke your camera -- here's some 20's, buy yourself a new fucking camera, punk."

    When a poser throws money at a stripper, he's making it all about him, not her. The show becomes him throwing money on stage; not her giving a show on stage. I happen to think it's worse if he actually throws the money at the stripper herself (what some of you called a shower in another thread) -- that seems pretty contemptuous and degrading. But, it can be just as bad when he's flinging the money on stage when she is elsewhere. Then, he's really making it about himself posing and throwing money around, she's not even in the picture.

    Not to say that the money still isn't green. Maybe that's why no one is finding it offensive.

    Again, I think it might be a generational thing, all the guys I've seen do this look like they want to be K-Fed; none appear to have class.

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    Ok, I see what you're saying now.

    But I just see it as money for nothing basically. I have to be on stage anyway and somebody throwing me money like that just means one less grabby asshole I'd have to put up with at the rail to make my quota.

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    No its still a money shower to me the way the OP explained. In fact if someone threw money at me on stage like that Id feel flattered. If he wants to feed his ego and make me look desired at the same time then sure no problems there. Since when was is wierd for a guy to shower a stripper with money on stage and it considered 'pimp-ish'?

    Some do have class and sometimes they just want to shower the girl on stage with money.

    Bad ways to tip IMO:
    *pelting the girl with balled up dollars on stage trying to aim for her ass.
    *dirty wet money
    *trying to tip you with money that was already on stage and trying to act like it was their original tip.
    *placing a $5 tip on stage and switching it out for a $2 tip when you come around to collect.
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    I'd rather have guys do this than stick money in their mouth and expect me to retrieve it with my mouth or my tits, or have them grab the side of my thong and shove the money in my panties. Those tipping methods are far more offensive than some young wannabe baller pretending like he's in a rap video. But that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    *pelting the girl with balled up dollars on stage trying to aim for her ass.
    This one is NEVER okay. I don't care if it's balled up $100 bills--it's disrespectful and I won't bother picking them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Let me explain my thought just a bit more. Throwing money at someone (as opposed to sending it to them, handing it to them, or any other normal manner of transfer) is a cultural exhibition of contempt.
    If you wish to interpret it as such. Whether its thrown to the dancer or handed over, it spends the same.

    When a poser throws money at a stripper, he's making it all about him, not her. The show becomes him throwing money on stage; not her giving a show on stage.
    But isn't the whole point of a stage show for the customer to give the dancer money?

    If he's bogarting all the attention, I can perhaps see where that would be offensive...to the other customers trying to watch.

    Not to say that the money still isn't green. Maybe that's why no one is finding it offensive.
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    I'll let the ladies speak for themselves, but I'm sure they'd much rather have guys making a scene while throwing money at them than just staring while tipping nothing. I'm also sure they'd most certainly consider the latter behavior well...offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I don't think putting money on the stage is offensive. I just think that flinging it up there, and posing like you're the pimp daddy of all pimp daddies, when you're really just scattering a few 1's around, is just kind of weird.

    Maybe it's a generational thing.
    it makes the guy feel good, like a hot shot, pimp, w/ve... and we get lots of $$$.... it's a win win. (plus it draws other guys attention to us... always a good thing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    Bad ways to tip IMO:
    *pelting the girl with balled up dollars on stage trying to aim for her ass.
    I don't see any difference between this and what I described.

    But, I am a live-and-let-live guy -- if it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother me.

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    ^^^^^^^^

    Balled up money can hurt.
    Money being tossed on stage doesn't.

    This happens alot in Virginia beacsue guys aren't allowed to touch us on stage. All tips are left on the rail or out on stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I don't see any difference between this and what I described.

    But, I am a live-and-let-live guy -- if it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother me.
    But there definitely IS a difference. Throwing something at you and hitting you with it is absolutely different than making a big show and showering the stage.

    One is disrespectful and one is treating you like a princess who deserves to be showered with money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel View Post
    But there definitely IS a difference. Throwing something at you and hitting you with it is absolutely different than making a big show and showering the stage.

    One is disrespectful and one is treating you like a princess who deserves to be showered with money.
    I guess I've never seen a true money shower as you describe it.

    What I'm talking about are guys standing up with a roll and peeling off 1's, one by one, flinging them at the stage or the girl, while making pimp poses, usually with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    I guess I've never seen a true money shower as you describe it.

    What I'm talking about are guys standing up with a roll and peeling off 1's, one by one, flinging them at the stage or the girl, while making pimp poses, usually with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth.
    But it seems like YOU have a problem with that, not the dancers. Sounds like the guys at my club who bitch about this. For the same reasons too.

    I could be wrong, but it sounds like you don't want these guys getting the attention instead of you.

    Personally, I like when this happens. It doesn't just garner attention for him, it puts the attention on me as well because he's making such a show of it.

    The only guys I know that are bothered by this are the cheap ones sitting there clutching their one dollar tip and holding it over me unless I give them a cheap feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DylanAngel View Post
    But it seems like YOU have a problem with that, not the dancers. Sounds like the guys at my club who bitch about this. For the same reasons too.

    I could be wrong, but it sounds like you don't want these guys getting the attention instead of you.

    Personally, I like when this happens. It doesn't just garner attention for him, it puts the attention on me as well because he's making such a show of it.

    The only guys I know that are bothered by this are the cheap ones sitting there clutching their one dollar tip and holding it over me unless I give them a cheap feel.
    I hear what you're saying. I just wondered if it bothered dancers to have money thrown at them. I guess the rule I've learned is if it is flat and flutters -- no; if it is balled up and whacks you -- yes. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Let me explain my thought just a bit more. Throwing money at someone (as opposed to sending it to them, handing it to them, or any other normal manner of transfer) is a cultural exhibition of contempt.
    Well, actually it's not considered rude or contemptuous at all in many parts of the world. In many cultures money is thrown at entertainers-including belly dancers- since they can not stop to accept it in mid performance. It is also common to throw money at the happy couple during wedding receptions in many cultures.

    I HAVE seen older guys do this, probably first generation US citizens of immigrant parents or immigrants themselves.
    Though I understand your thought process I wouldn't base too much of my cultural education on a scene from the Godfather.

    That being said, I wouldn't throw money on the stage or at a dancer if there was any chance I could get her to come closer to me by holding onto it until she came over...

    To be sure there are times when throwing money, or anything else, could be considered disrespectful. I'll even go so far as to say that kid you are talking about may be a disrespectful punk...at least he's tipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Let me explain my thought just a bit more. Throwing money at someone (as opposed to sending it to them, handing it to them, or any other normal manner of transfer) is a cultural exhibition of contempt.
    I hope you will someday show me some contempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    When a poser throws money at a stripper, he's making it all about him, not her. The show becomes him throwing money on stage; not her giving a show on stage. I happen to think it's worse if he actually throws the money at the stripper herself (what some of you called a shower in another thread) -- that seems pretty contemptuous and degrading. But, it can be just as bad when he's flinging the money on stage when she is elsewhere. Then, he's really making it about himself posing and throwing money around, she's not even in the picture.
    It's his money and his fantasy, so I could care less how he tips me, so long as he tips. If he isn't being abusive, just acting like a punk, then who cares?

    Offensive tipping includes:
    *Throwing change
    *Grabbing or groping the dancer
    *Waving the bill around and making her grab for it
    *holding up a twenty then pulling it back and offering a $1 instead
    *Holding money in his mouth and demanding that the stripper "come and get it"
    *Asking for change for a larger bill (like a $5) and then tipping only $1

    So on the list of offenses that a customer can commit in a strip club, a guy tossing money on the stage just to be part of the show is really no sweat off my brow.

    I've seen older customer do that, too. Also to show off for the other customers in the bar. Occasionally the older customer would obviously throw $100 or something. Even if he is doing it in a degrading manner, I still get $100 and I don't even have to deal with him directly.


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    ^^^Yeah, that's how I look at it. I think it sometimes is meant in a disrespectful way. I ABSOLUTELY see your point Everyman. Practically speaking I want the money and I'll keep a safe physical distance fom Mr Pimp when I get down. Those types don't tend to be nice and respectful when you sidle up to them.

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    Dancers usually prefer it if you making it challenging. Hold the dollar out,and when she moves to take it, pull it back. Great fun for all

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