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    hi here is an article i read it sounds good
    i especially liked the tip of using any greens and an onion/garlic soy sauce and putting in a fry pan with just water.. a big gunk of good for you food for hardly any calories

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    These foods and drinks are what I call emergency appetite control foods. What these foods and beverages have in common is that they make your stomach feel like it's full of calorie-rich foods. But in reality, you are filling your stomach with foods that contain almost no calories or carbohydrates. This way, even though your stomach is full, you are not adding calories to your intake. But your body is temporarily fooled into thinking you've just woofed down a triple-plate buffet.

    In other words, if you eat two cups of cashews versus two cups of cabbage, your body can't really tell the difference for the first few minutes. Your stomach will turn off the hunger signals thinking you have eaten a large quantity of food regardless of whether you are eating cabbage or cashews, but in fact the cabbage may only contain 20 calories while the cashews contain as much as 900 or even 1000 calories. Two cups of cashews provides probably half the calories you need for the entire day, whereas two cups of cabbage provides virtually no calories whatsoever. You burn off the cabbage just digesting it. (Raw cabbage is, in fact, an outright cure for ulcers. But that's another article...)

    Emergency appetite control food #1
    Fresh drinking water. That's right: water is a powerful appetite suppressant and if you drink an 8-ounce glass of water when you first start feeling hungry, you will find that it suppresses your appetite in nearly every case. If you just drink a full glass of water and have the discipline to wait 10 minutes, you will find that your appetite is either completely gone or dramatically reduced.

    Your next choice, if water does not do the trick for you, is to purchase a 32-ounce quart of natural, organic vegetable broth. You can get organic vegetable broth from Trader Joe's, health food stores, or even many of the finer grocery stores that have a natural health section. The key is to get organic vegetable broth that does not contain excitotoxins. These are ingredients that cause neurological disorders because they overexcite and harm nerve cells. Those ingredients are MSG, yeast extract, autolyzed yeast extract, hydrolyzed vegetable proteins, and other similar ingredients. Warning: watch out for broth products made by Kitchen Basics. They claim their products don't contain MSG or yeast extract, but when I tried their product, I experienced a massive "MSG headache" that tells me it contains free glutamic acid that isn't listed on the label. (I'm very sensitive to MSG.) The brand of broth I buy is Trade Joe's house brand, which does not contain free glutamic acid.

    You can also choose organic chicken broth if you prefer the flavor of chicken. Once you have that, simply empty the entire quart into a very large bowl, heat it up and eat it like soup. You will probably be unable to get through the entire bowl without feeling full. And how many calories have you consumed? Not 900 like you get in two cups of cashews or 1200 like in a big Mac, not even 300 calories like you get from a typical protein bar, instead you get 20 calories only. That's right: you can feel full on 20 calories by drinking an entire quart of organic vegetable broth.

    Emergency appetite control food #2
    The next best strategy is to turn to green vegetables such as lettuce, cabbage, bokchoy, and other leafy vegetables. They have so few calories that in my own diet, I don't even count them. That's right: I allow myself to eat an unlimited quantity of any green leafy vegetables without even recording the number of calories I have consumed. In my book, they are "free" foods.

    It takes just as many calories for your body to digest them as you get out of the foods themselves. And yet at the same time, they fill your stomach and make you feel full, turning off the hunger signals in your brain. You may have also heard these called "negative calorie foods."

    You can consume these green leafy vegetables in a couple of ways. Most people don't like to eat them plain. Instead, you can fill up a very large bowl (I am talking about something the size of a family dinner salad bowl) with lettuce and salad greens, then add only 100 calories worth of salad dressing. You will want to find some of the lower calorie salad dressings out there, and of course you want to avoid MSG, high-fructose corn syrup, and other ingredients in salad dressings. There are many very good salad dressings that only have 25 calories per tablespoon. Using those dressings, you can put four tablespoons of salad dressing on your salad and start munching away. In a few minutes, you will feel quite full and yet will have only consumed 100 calories that count. Remember the calories for the green leafy vegetables are free. You only count the calories of the salad dressing itself. This is an excellent way to fill your stomach and turn off your hunger signals while only giving yourself 100 calories.

    Another strategy that uses green leafy vegetables is to stir fry them in a pan with no oils whatsoever. Just use water and flavoring such as onions, garlic and soy sauce. Simply stir fry all the green vegetables you want, add the spices and eat it. I do not count the calories in onions or garlic either, nor do I count the calories in soy sauce since none of these spices have very high calorie density. As a result, that entire meal goes in your stomach and counts for zero calories. Once again, it's a great way to curb you appetite without consuming large quantities of calorie rich food.

    Emergency appetite control food #3
    This is one of my favorites: I call it my "instant banana pudding" recipe, but of course, it's nothing at all like store-bought pudding. You'll need a blender for this one.

    Add a quart of soy milk to the blender, then a couple of scoops of unsweetened banana-flavored simply natural spirutein soy protein powder. (Sources are listed in the downloadable book, "Secret Sources." Add stevia powder as the sweetener. I also toss in some supergreens powders, but you may want to avoid that at first, since it's an acquired taste (and it turns your banana pudding green).

    If you were to blend this up, you'd have a banana-flavored soy protein shake. But we're not done yet: while the blender is running, put in about 1/2 tablespoon of guar gum powder, plus another 1/2 tablespoon of xanthan gum powder. These are thickeners. Within seconds, your blender will start whining and the whole mixture will attain the consistency of pudding. Now just pour it into a bowl and eat it like banana pudding! The mixture has near-zero carbs, no sugars, and is high in soy protein. Plus, it tastes great and fills you up fast. This is my favorite choice for a late-night appetite emergency.

    You can get guar gum and xanthan gum at a health food store, or order online at a vitamin supplier.

    Emergency appetite control food #4:
    The last food is pickles. That's right, pickles. But I am not talking about the pickles you find at a regular grocery store. Nearly all pickles you find in grocery stores contain artificial food coloring. They have a yellowish tint to them that has been added through the use of chemical colors. This is not a natural ingredient and so it is something you want to avoid purchasing. Instead, you want to buy completely natural pickles like the ones you get at Trader Joe's that are made without artificial colors or flavors and that have an extremely low calorie count as well. An entire jar of pickles may give you only 50 calories or so and yet they can be quite satisfying and take up a considerable amount of space in your stomach, thereby turning off your appetite cravings.

    Just don't buy pickles containing any added sugars or artificial colors. Some pickles are, believe it or not, loaded with sugar. They're more like candied cucumbers than pickles. Read the ingredients labels to be sure what you're getting.

    By the way, while you're eating pickles, it's an excellent time to take some calcium and mineral supplements, too. The acidity of the pickles will accelerate the absorption of calcium.

    Emergency appetite control food #5:
    Here's an easy one: apples. Yep, apples. Eat the largest apple you can find. Sure, you'll get some calories and some carbs, but the apple will fill you up for quite a while, and that will stop you from eating far more calorie-dense foods.

    Let me explain why this is such an effective strategy. If you're crazy hungry, it's very easy to reach for some processed foods (bag of chips, for example) and start munching away until you've consumed 1000 calories or more. And that's about half the total calories you need for the entire day!

    But I dare you to try to eat 1000 calories worth of apples. It's impossible. You'll fill up even before reaching 400 calories, probably. Apples are great appetite suppressing foods because the bulky fiber fills up your stomach and turns off your appetite control hormones before you overeat. Plus, apples contain various phytonutrients, vitamins and minerals. They're even a decent source of folic acid.

    How to further suppress your appetite:
    One more supplementary strategy to all of this is that you can multiply the appetite suppressing effects of all foods by swallowing a couple of fiber tablets before you begin eating. Fiber tablets or capsules would include psyllium husk, glucomannan, oat bran fiber, apple pectin fiber, or other natural fibers. You can find fiber supplements at any health food store. Be careful to watch the dosage of the fiber and drink plenty of water as you take these pills because without adequate water, they can gum up in your digestive tract and in extreme cases, they can block your digestive tract. So, you want to drink plenty of water with them.

    By consuming both the fiber and the water before you start eating, you've already significantly turned off your appetite. Then by consuming these extremely low caloric density foods and beverages, you will further suppress your appetite. You can get an entire meal into your stomach for 100 calories or less and you can trick your brain into thinking you consumed an all-you-can-eat buffet.

    But there's a catch to all this: in about an hour or so, your body will figure out that there isn't much energy in the food you've consumed. Your hunger will begin to return, but at least you delayed the onset of that hunger by an hour or more. If you combine this with physical exercise, you can delay it even further because the very act of exercising releases stored body fat and converts it back into blood sugar, which raises your blood sugar level and suppresses your appetite cravings.

    You can also extend the effect of this by taking appetite suppressant supplements. Hoodia gordonii is one I've reviewed quite extensively, and it is currently increasing in popularity. My own experience is that hoodia tincture can help, but even hoodia doesn't shut off appetite completely.

    Also, you don't want to starve yourself by eating these 100-calorie meals all day long. Remember, starvation is the fastest way to train your body to hold on to body fat. These are just items to get you past a difficult time when your appetite is unbearably intense.

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    The negative calorie food thing sounds like BS to me. You could eat 5,000 calories of veggies and gain weight, which would disprove the myth.

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    That was a great break down of food and how to maintain your weight even in the cold weather.
    A lot of foods you mentioned are detox foods. I use a lot of herbal remidies as well. I take cayenne pepper pills and taht controls my appetite for destruction. You just have to have will power.



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    The only things here that I find viable are the ones containing protein.

    I would rather eat a good sized handful of cashews than a whole head of cabbage because the cashews will keep me fuller longer, thereby eating less calories in the long run.

    Snacks with healthy fats and protein will also keep blood sugar stable eliminating the need for any type of emergency food or snack anyway.

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    I know the ana/thinspiration site you got this from well...
    www.myspace.com/infinitelymia

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennygirl View Post
    Let me explain why this is such an effective strategy. If you're crazy hungry, it's very easy to reach for some processed foods (bag of chips, for example) and start munching away until you've consumed 1000 calories or more. And that's about half the total calories you need for the entire day!

    But I dare you to try to eat 1000 calories worth of apples. It's impossible. You'll fill up even before reaching 400 calories, probably.
    Quote Originally Posted by sc0101 View Post
    The negative calorie food thing sounds like BS to me. You could eat 5,000 calories of veggies and gain weight, which would disprove the myth.
    what this is saying is that it's very hard to eat the number of calories that would be required to over-eat.

    It kinda makes sense though. There is a reason why Americans are fat, and it's not from overeating fruits and vegetables.

    This does sound suspiciously like pro-ana stuff. I mean, it's one thing to bash potato chips, but cashews? Yeah, nuts are high calories, but you don't see people getting fat from them either! There has been research that shows that people that eat nuts regularly usually weigh less than those who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    what this is saying is that it's very hard to eat the number of calories that would be required to over-eat.

    It kinda makes sense though. There is a reason why Americans are fat, and it's not from overeating fruits and vegetables.

    This does sound suspiciously like pro-ana stuff. I mean, it's one thing to bash potato chips, but cashews? Yeah, nuts are high calories, but you don't see people getting fat from them either! There has been research that shows that people that eat nuts regularly usually weigh less than those who don't.
    Well I'm just referring to the myth that they are zero calories, and your body burns off the calories just by disgesting. That's just silly.

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    how do you know that's not true? have you ever had 5000 calories of celery and cabbage?

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    Why is this site getting more and more pro-anorexic to me? Starving yourself is fucked up. Just eat healthy reasonable meals and work out. I can imagine just how miserable some of you girls are, and how miserable you make the people who care about you........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    how do you know that's not true? have you ever had 5000 calories of celery and cabbage?
    Because if it was true, a lot more people would be vegetarians.

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    Because if it was true, a lot more people would be vegetarians.
    why do you figure that? Knowing how to eat right and actually doing it are two totally different things that fatass americans haven't grasped. And there's more to vegetarianism than vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    why do you figure that?
    Hmm well if you could eat as many veggies as you want and not gain any calories whatsoever, I'm sure that lifestyle would be much more appealing. If your resting metabolic rate was 1200, you'd lose weight like mad. If you google it, there are tons of sites showing the myth as false.

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    But, you can eat as many "negative calorie" vegetables as you want and not gain weight...

    this is according to popular diets like Weight Watchers and Nutrisystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    But, you can eat as many "negative calorie" vegetables as you want and not gain weight...
    You won't gain weight, but you're still getting calories which would be used as energy later on like any food. You can eat 1200 calories worth of cupcakes too and not gain any weight technically. That is a direct quote from TV's diet doctor, interviewing a spokesperson for Weight Watchers. Calories are calories, over a certain limit and you'll gain weight. You only burn around 80 calories digesting a full meal.

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    IF this works, I'd like to pipe in that it would most likely only work with those who have normal to low metabolisms.


    I have a hyperactive high metabolism. I have consumed all of those things except for #3. None of them make me feel full whatsoever, even if I consume them in bulk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sc0101 View Post
    You won't gain weight, but you're still getting calories which would be used as energy later on like any food. You can eat 1200 calories worth of cupcakes too and not gain any weight technically. That is a direct quote from TV's diet doctor, interviewing a spokesperson for Weight Watchers. Calories are calories, over a certain limit and you'll gain weight. You only burn around 80 calories digesting a full meal.
    I think you are missing the point of "negative calorie" foods. It's that they are unlimited.

    And I'd still like to see the research that shows you'd gain weight by eating only cabbage and celery, even in huge quantities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    I think you are missing the point of "negative calorie" foods. It's that they are unlimited.
    No, they arn't. You cannot eat 5,000 calories of veggies, whatever they may be, and not gain weight. I'm sure some people would be able to.

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    Do your BMI and figure out how many calories you should consume a day. 5 alonds a day are good for you. Don't eat too many nuts but enough is great espicially if you are a veggie, like me......



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    i actually got the article from here:

    http://www.newstarget.com/z003550.html

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    and.. the last paragraph says:

    Also, you don't want to starve yourself by eating these 100-calorie meals all day long. Remember, starvation is the fastest way to train your body to hold on to body fat. These are just items to get you past a difficult time when your appetite is unbearably intense.


    this is appetite control for between meals not how you "eat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennygirl View Post
    and.. the last paragraph says:

    Also, you don't want to starve yourself by eating these 100-calorie meals all day long. Remember, starvation is the fastest way to train your body to hold on to body fat. These are just items to get you past a difficult time when your appetite is unbearably intense.


    this is appetite control for between meals not how you "eat"

    Blah I normally don't pick, but the statement "when your appetite is unbearably intense" bugs me. Why would you ever let your body get to an extreme hunger level? When your body is hungry, you need to feed it. Eat the right things and you won't get hungry. It also fucks with your sugar levels. Paying attention to your body is a much better and long term way to lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sc0101 View Post
    Blah I normally don't pick, but the statement "when your appetite is unbearably intense" bugs me. Why would you ever let your body get to an extreme hunger level? When your body is hungry, you need to feed it. Eat the right things and you won't get hungry. It also fucks with your sugar levels. Paying attention to your body is a much better and long term way to lose weight.
    Thank you, that's what I mean! If you're starving eat a meal. Salads and water and fruits should already be a part of what you're eating.

    That banana pudding mix sounds gross, but I don't like banana pudding anyway. I'd rather blend a fresh straw-banana smoothie. Sure it probably has some sugar and calories in it, but it has lots of vitamins.

    This article just doesn't sit right with me.

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    When I was on Weight Watchers there were many foods that were zero foods, meaning you could eat as much as you wanted and not count them. Lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, onions, were a few.

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    where did you read this article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    where did you read this article?
    Quote Originally Posted by pennygirl View Post
    i actually got the article from here:

    http://www.newstarget.com/z003550.html
    she posted it earlier

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