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    On the Oprah show they where talking about class. I will like to know what class are you in? What do you consider upper, upper middle, middle, and lower class? Why dose class matter to you? Will you assoicate with someone of a lower class than you?


    I will have to say, I am middle class with poor grammer.
    I really do not judge people on class. I tend to try not to put labels on people. I will assoicate myself with anyone thats nice.
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    According to her $$ chart, I was raised Upper, lived Middle for most of high school, and have been Lower for about... 10 years. Fun.
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    Hmmm, I was raised upper middle class, but I guess I'm plain old middle class right now. I'm most comfortable with a blue collar, working class crowd. Even if I manage to get pretty wealthy I know I'll still feel this way.

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    i was raised upper class, and i still am upper class. i do care to an extent about class, but only the educational aspect of it. i do not want to associate with someone who has no class at all, and curses every other word, says aint and such... drives me batty. i could not give two shits about what $ someone makes for me to associate with them. my family does, (aunts and uncles, not parents, my parents are down to earth and realize there's more to life than how much you make or what car you drive) and i laugh at them for it. the worst is knowing my one cousin gets OFF on it... he works in the white house as an intern and goes to George Wash Univ and is a frat boy etc etc and flaunts money like it buys him class. but he's worse off in life, imho. he has no sense of what's *really* important.

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    This is how i view class (rightly or wrongly):
    Upper= old money, aristocrat etc. people born into money who don't work. the women attend charity events and have long lunches with friends.

    Upper middle = the working rich. people who do have to work but in the highest bracket of income.

    Middle = white collar and some blue collar workers. financially comfortable most of the time etc. this is the category i consider myself to have been raised in and currently in although i hope once i graduate law to be moving up to upper middle lol.

    Lower = unskilled workers, live pay-check to pay-check etc.

    then i would put another class = poor.

    I would associate with a person of any class provided that they were a decent human being.
    Money does not buy class either, look at Britney Spears for instance no amount of millions has bought her any class, she is still the same trash she always was. I don't hate her or anything but the girl doesn't have class.

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    According to Oprah's chart:
    Raised-lower class
    Out on my own- lower middle class
    Now-upper- upper class

    According to me:
    Raised-lower middle class
    Out on my own-middle class
    Now-upper middle class

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    I was raised in Upper Class..

    Right now, I'd consider us to be Middle-Upper class. But these days, especially in the Northeast, everyone is in the "Working Poor" class. It's so damn expensive around here. In some ways, that's good. It keeps the trash out of our tiny little state, because they can't afford it.

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    I haven't seen Oprah's chart but IMO, I was raised lower middle class (financially and educationally) and I am now just middle class.

    I arrived at just being middle class not because of financial reasons since, with my and Brad's new jobs, we will be doing quite well, but because of educational reasons.

    I am degreed and certified and Brad is a white/blue collar worker with no college education. Which means he works as a boss in the blue collar field.

    So, averaging it out, I'd say we were just middle class, which is ok with me.

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    I was raised lower class, out on my own I'm still lower class..but I'm making strides to a better life.







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    Class isn't about money, it's about manner and culture.

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    Raised lower middle class

    On my own lower middle class

    After school, who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Class isn't about money, it's about manner and culture.
    I know you dashed that off without thinking, because that's "class" in the "hey, you're a classy dame" sense. If you're using it in the better-defined, more commonly accepted socioeconomic sense, then hell no, it's *strictly* about money.

    I was raised upper, was middle while in college, then upper again. To my parents' eternal credit, they made it abundantly clear to me that 1) money has nothing to do with who you are as a person, and 2) that it's an obligation of people who have to help people who have not. Though my daddy still used cash and prizes to convey approval . . .

    It's damn good of Oprah to talk about class. One of the problems in this country is that people buy into the delusion that there's boundless upper mobility in it and that class doesn't exist here. What bunk.

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    I'd rather not share.

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    I'd say I was raised lower middle, and am currently lower middle on my own since I'm just in college. Later hopefully I'll get to drop the lower.

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    Lower middle, blue collar. My parents worked (and still do) hard, shitty hours so me or my brother would never be hungry or have want. They push college on us like nothing else, so we won't be stuck like they are.

    We cuss, say ain't and yuns, and make fart jokes. I'd have it no other way.

    Now I've moved up, and am living in a wealthy area, and it's a bit of a culture shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    It's damn good of Oprah to talk about class. One of the problems in this country is that people buy into the delusion that there's boundless upper mobility in it and that class doesn't exist here. What bunk.
    I think Yek has a point, though. One can "fake it til you make it" here in the US.

    One can learn the speech patterns, mannerisms and social ediquette of the upper classes to blend in. Because everyone knows that it isn't what you know it is who you know.

    If one behaves like trailer trash, then it would be difficult to advance beyond that level if you insist on using the personal speech patterns, mannerisms and ediquette of the trailer trash culture.

    I think that Henry Higgins was definately on to something.

    But, so many times people resist changing their way of life in that way and see those that do as "sell outs". Well, duh, if you want more money you're going to have to sell out at some point. Call it a trade off instead and it doesn't sound quite as demoralizing.

    Life is a series of compromises. If you act like an uneducated hick and live like an uneducated hick, why would anyone take a chance on you? If you lose your potty mouth and learn some basic social graces, is that selling out or self improvement?

    I didn't watch the Oprah program, so I don't know where I fall on the class scale, but I do know that at one time I was comfortable hanging out with drug dealers and wealfare recipients and now am more comfortable hanging out with folks with big houses and new cars and expensive vacations.


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    The Oprah show was talking about the new predjuice. Well I think this type of predjuice been around for years. Anyhoo they talk about the big gap between the rich vs. the poor. Why class matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by leilanicandy View Post
    The Oprah show was talking about the new predjuice. Well I think this type of predjuice been around for years. Anyhoo they talk about the big gap between the rich vs. the poor. Why class matter?

    According to that chart over $70,000 is considered upper class?

    That's like the bare minimum around here to have a nice house, furniture, cars, kids' college fund, retirement savings and vacations every year. Which is how I describe being comfortable, BTW.

    If that is upper class, then Brad and I are upper, upper class and I'm sorry, but that is just a laugh that we would even be close...or want to be.

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    I stand by what I said. There are a lot of wealthy people who are just plain trash, and a lot of broke people who are well-educated and genteel. And like Paris said, class boundaries don't exist in this country the way they traditionally have in Britain. Yes, having a wealthier background opens more doors, but there are ways to kick the doors open even if they're originally closed to you.

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    Ok. According to Oprah's chart:

    Growing up: upper class
    After parents got divorced at 14: middle class
    Moving out on my own at 17: lower class
    Now: middle class

    But!! This also depends where you live, doesn't it? I've spent half my childhood in Israel and we were 'rich' there. I know people in other parts of the country who make lower middle class incomes yet live better than people making 20 grand more than them a year here living here in NY.

    I'm with some others on the thread though. I lived in Spanish Harlem (a bad area of NYC) for a couple years when I first moved out of my parents. I feel at ease with people of a 'lower class' and I feel perfectly natural in a ball gown hob knobbing (sp?) with the so called upper crust.

    While I am not partial to some of the language and close minded views of my lower class friends, I'm also not partial to the snobbish views of some of my upper class friends.

    Class is really what you make of it now a days. That's part of what made america america. The fluidity between classes. This is one of the countries in the world where making moves between classes is possible. Granted, it's still not easy (anyone see pursuit of happiness? It's still hard to move up), but anyone with a good idea and business sense to make money has the potential to move up in class. That's part of the 'American Dream.'

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    Lower middle class POR VIDA! "Keepin' It Real" Homes...

    I JUST realized that for me to amass wealth I will have to live the same way I live when I have no money to spend. (It could be worse, I could be like Donald Trump, born into wealth & losing other people's money...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    While I am not partial to some of the language and close minded views of my lower class friends, I'm also not partial to the snobbish views of some of my upper class friends.
    I'm with you. I can do the Larry, The Cable Guy thing (down home) just as well as I do the Jerry Seinfeld (snobby) thing.

    I suppose that's the difference between being born to class and actually having class...one can be born to riches but having class is to show that there really is no difference; we're all just people in different circumstances.

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    I was raised upper class, my mother did lots of charity lunches, that type of thing, I went to private school, had private lessons in piano, voice, dance..... but I was taught that money isn't everything. Now that I'm not living with my parents (but I do live in a property they own) I'm responsible for myself, food, bills..... I'm rent free, but pay the lawn servicing, and all utilities and such. I have 3 roommates (it's a big house) so their rent (which I keep as low as I can) pays all the bills and lawn, as well as having a maid come 2-3x a week. We live in an upper class area, on the beach, and 2 of them are supported by parents, the 3rd works. I'd say we're all living a middle-upper class lifestyle.

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