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    Was talking with a friend club owner of mine and he is seriously considering making MANDATORY drug testing for all dancers as part of his clubs policies. This is partially due to appease local LE authorities, but also the many lives that he has seen ruined and lost (mostly as a result of meth, cocaine and herion addictions) as a result of substance abuse over the years. I don't think the NBA has a drug testing policy for pot-perhaps because the league might have very few players if it did?... Do you all think the stripping industry would be greatly reduced (aka like the NBA) if in fact drug testing for all illegal substances becomes reality?

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    ...dancers are not club employees, therefore, the club cannot legally "mandate" drug testing. Anyway, yes, it would "reduce" the industry such that club owners would loose comparable income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuy_TX View Post
    ...dancers are not club employees, therefore, the club cannot legally "mandate" drug testing. Anyway, yes, it would "reduce" the industry such that club owners would loose comparable income.

    You are correct in most clubs they are not "employees", however in this particular case they are paid an hourly wage (just like a waitress) and receive a W-2 so they are technically employees....

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    If they are willing to go quality over quanity, then it is a good idea. Yes, it may cut their dancing staff down a bit...but they wont have the junked up stoned girls to deal with either....

    Kind of a personal choice as to whats more important to them....filling the club with girls or picking out the bad ones and dealing with less.
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    I wouldn't agree to it, and I never use drugs. I would find that to be an absolute unjustified invasion of my privacy.
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    I agree with Jenny. This would hurt more than help. Drug testing is a 6month snapshot at best, a lot of work, and if the dancers are paying to work there, than they probably would just find another club.


    But in retrospect, to the customer, if he's turned on, would drug use....really....matter? You'd think sanitizing the pole regularly would be more important. Or mopping the stage up... Much better places to turn for improvement before looking at the talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus View Post
    I agree with Jenny. This would hurt more than help. Drug testing is a 6month snapshot at best, a lot of work, and if the dancers are paying to work there, than they probably would just find another club.


    But in retrospect, to the customer, if he's turned on, would drug use....really....matter? You'd think sanitizing the pole regularly would be more important. Or mopping the stage up... Much better places to turn for improvement before looking at the talent.

    Yes sanitizing the pole is extremely important there were several dancers that got a staff infection from what was likely an unsanitized pole at a club I frequent... In regards to the drug testing, I agree this isn't a perfect solution but in the past year and a half 6 dancers have died from overdoses and this also would appease local LE although they can't force the owner to do drug testing, he is very open minded to this idea. The biggest problems seem to be from Meth and Cocaine. The dancers are W-2 and just are expected to tip a small percentage to the DJ and bartenders

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    A staff infection from an unsanitized pole?! I can't imagine that's right. I mean, were they like.... rubbing open wounds on the pole or what?

    I don't do drugs either but I wouldn't deal with it. There are so many clubs to go to with less hastle, I think they'd lose a lot of girls.

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    Dunno how it happened for sure, but it was definetly a staff infection... Could have been some pissed off dancer who purposely rubbed her open wound on the pole. Dunno for sure, but this could happen anywhere and im sure it was passed on to some customers. Bottom line wash your hands, and hopefully someone cleans the pole frequently!

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    Hmmm, Im curious to see what would happen.

    I am an occasional weed-smoker, but thats it. I would think that it would be wierd to drug test at a SC, as the owners and management are often into coke themselves.

    I personally find the alcoholic strippers more annoying than the cokeheads and methfreaks. But you cant test for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronfl View Post
    If they are willing to go quality over quanity, then it is a good idea. Yes, it may cut their dancing staff down a bit...but they wont have the junked up stoned girls to deal with either....

    Kind of a personal choice as to whats more important to them....filling the club with girls or picking out the bad ones and dealing with less.
    I agree on this point. Our club employs us as well and pays us an hourly wage, so it wouldn't be a legal issue. It all depends on what the owners/managers are more concerned with: 1. the amount of girls/ more money or 2. the quality of the girls and the atmosphere created.

    I don't do any drugs, but I really don't care who does or doesn't, as long as they aren't fucked up at work, making us all look like assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashaM View Post
    Hmmm, Im curious to see what would happen.

    I am an occasional weed-smoker, but thats it. I would think that it would be wierd to drug test at a SC, as the owners and management are often into coke themselves.

    I personally find the alcoholic strippers more annoying than the cokeheads and methfreaks. But you cant test for that.

    I would agree that the drunk dancers are sometimes more annoying than the pot smokers and that (alcohol a drug itself albeit legal) is often more damaging to the users when abused than pot is... The owner or managers at these clubs are not on any type of illegal drugs to my knowledge, I know for sure the owner isn't. Meth, Coke, & Heroin are the main self destructive drugs (in order) in this particular matter. The owner actually is a decent guy and has a conscience about the dancers that work in his clubs and feels some social responsibility to do what is right before other deaths or tragedies occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69 View Post
    Dunno for sure, but this could happen anywhere and im sure it was passed on to some customers.

    Not true, and I'm kind of getting off subject but, it would be EXTREMELY rare to get a staff infection from sharing a dancing pole. Probably a really, really gnarly cold at the most. I mean, a girl would have to not only berubbing her opejn wounds on it, but another girl would have to rub HER open wonds on it and even then... the germs would have had to survive....

    Haha, can you tell I'm a germophobe yet?

    Back on subject, to add to my earlier post, I'm kind of against drug testing all down the line, not just theoretically for strippers. I don't really think some drugs should be illegal in the first place, let alone mandatory testing. I'd have to do more research and thought but I think drug testing for sales job is goofy and off point.

    ETA: I agree with Akasha--I've seen far worse things happen more often because of alcoholic strippers and incidents than drugs. Might be my experience, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    Not true, and I'm kind of getting off subject but, it would be EXTREMELY rare to get a staff infection from sharing a dancing pole. Probably a really, really gnarly cold at the most. I mean, a girl would have to not only berubbing her opejn wounds on it, but another girl would have to rub HER open wonds on it and even then... the germs would have had to survive....

    Haha, can you tell I'm a germophobe yet?

    Back on subject, to add to my earlier post, I'm kind of against drug testing all down the line, not just theoretically for strippers. I don't really think some drugs should be illegal in the first place, let alone mandatory testing. I'd have to do more research and thought but I think drug testing for sales job is goofy and off point.

    ETA: I agree with Akasha--I've seen far worse things happen more often because of alcoholic strippers and incidents than drugs. Might be my experience,
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    From my undertanding there are varying degrees of staff infections, I could be wrong about this? All I know for sure is several dancers got infected with a nasty infection which was rumored to have come from the pole. As far as drugs, I'm a civil libertarian myself, but anytime abuse of substances (legal or not) occurs with multiple deaths and tragedies being the end results, it's not hard to understand the owner taking on some social responsibilty in this matter either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69 View Post
    but anytime abuse of substances (legal or not) occurs with multiple deaths and tragedies being the end results, it's not hard to understand the owner taking on some socail responsibilty in this matter either.
    I wonder then if he will also offer sobriety tests and/or stop selling liqour, as alcohol causes far more deaths than any narcotics do yearly.

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    I agree with Helle....& the day that any club owner acts out of genuine concern for a dancer is the day I'll eat my hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle View Post
    I wonder then if he will also offer sobriety tests and/or stop selling liqour, as alcohol causes far more deaths than any narcotics do yearly.
    I am not debating that alcohol is a "pefect drug" either, as pot is much more safe even when abused IMHO; it just happens not be "legal". The owner and management are actually pretty observant and responsible for calling taxis for both drunk dancers and customers. There certainly are no drugs when abused legal or not that end up with happy endings for the users and or victims, it just happens to be that these clubs have had multiple dancer deaths from overdosing on the illegal drugs, and not one dancer or customer accident to my knowledge from drunk driving.

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    If they did that at my old club...I would most likely be the only dancer there.
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    I personally don't think having a drug testing would fare over to well. I dunno about you gals/guys but I have more of a problem with the super drunk strippers falling all over the place than the high ones on drugs...but that's just me.







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    I would not agree to be drug tested as a dancer or in any occupation. Why would I agree to being treated like a criminal when I have no criminal record? I would find it degrading and humiliating.
    I do not and have never taken drugs and I think the idea is hideous.
    If staff think that a certain dancers is using drugs then she is probably also displaying problematic behaviours to the club so they should get rid of her anyway.
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    Oh god. I WISH clubs would do mandatory drug testing for all strippers. No druggie bitches allowed! That sure would cut out a whole hell of a LOT of the bullshit in the industry, and clean it up something FIERCE.

    Hell, I'd be FOR making drug testing part of the licensing procedure. No clean drug test, no license. No license, no strip. Move along bitch!

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    I mean, it's cool that the manager cares and doesn't want to see that drug shit happen in the clubs but... If a girl is a strung out trouble maker, do we really need mandatory drug tests to tell this?

    The problem at places I worked wasn't that they would hire girls who would suddenly turn out to go psycho and be drug addicts. It was that they would let them problem knowingly get worse and worse and NEVER fire the girls.

    I think good communication and knowing what is going on in your club will help weed out the bad girls a lot more than mandatory drug tests...

    ...And I live with a pothead and he is ALWAYS finding ways to get around those drug tests anyway. Weed lovers are fuckinf resourceful haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    I would not agree to be drug tested as a dancer or in any occupation. Why would I agree to being treated like a criminal when I have no criminal record? I would find it degrading and humiliating.
    I do not and have never taken drugs and I think the idea is hideous.
    If staff think that a certain dancers is using drugs then she is probably also displaying problematic behaviours to the club so they should get rid of her anyway.
    I don't know how it is in your country, but in the USA it is common practice BEFORE hiring a potential employee in most occupations to be drug tested. The majority of the time the test is paid for by the potential employer. Is it mandatory that you take this test-NO, but if you don't the chances of getting hired are slim to none. However, after the initial drug test, it could be years before another one is done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69 View Post
    I don't know how it is in your country, but in the USA it is common practice BEFORE hiring a potential employee in most occupations to be drug tested. The majority of the time the test is paid for by the potential employer. Is it mandatory that you take this test-NO, but if you don't the chances of getting hired are slim to none. However, after the initial drug test, it could be years before another one is done...
    I have never been drug tested for any job that I have gone for. While it's not unheard of in Australia it is definately not the norm and is usually only done for occupations where being intoxicated is considered high risk - such as operating machinery and factory work.

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    Jenny beat me to my response. I don't do drugs, but I have a huge problem with mandatory drug testing and I refuse to submit to it. It's invasive and it's absolutely not the employer's business what people are doing on their own time. If they're getting high at work, fire them for it, but what they do at home is irrelevant to the job. You'd fire somebody for being drunk at work, but not for drinking on his off-time, so why violate people's personal privacy this way?

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