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    As I lay awake, on hour 17 ( Im going to be awake for 32 hours before I can rest again. ) I figured I'd amuse us all, ( mostly just myself. because lets be honest here, I am all that matters ) with a lil' thought to chew on.

    Im on stripper power right now . And I know many non industry people read my blogs. I might as well educate them in what it's really like.

    I work in an industry where we are all, backstabbers. We are. I'd like to meet ONE single person in what I do, that isn't. While, yes we all have great friends ( insert eye roll. ) we still all talk shit on some level or another, about the other. However many and most of us know when to stop. Or when teasing is not teasing, its backstabbing.

    In the decade of half naked follies, I have had a grand total of ... drum roll please.

    6 actual real life friendships. 6 people, I would say " yes she is my friend. " I miss all six dearly in some form or another.

    I know for a fact, we have all backstabbed others though, in order to get what we want. Be it respect, money or attention.

    Of course, there are always the queens of backstabbing, two facing and rumor churning shittiness.

    These girls, I can fondly call...soulless. I'm not even sure they were born with one to be honest.

    2 girls I worked with at the garter, showed me that ugly can come dressed in the human form of a woman.

    These women would go to the ends of the earth to stomp on others dreams of making, just maybe 20 extra dollars that night. They are shitty fucking women, that I still can't imagine having anything more than a black heart.

    yes, we are in the business of fending for ourselves. I think that will never be argued. However, it gives no one the absolute right to ruin others lives. Which these two girls have done nothing other than.

    Only one I actually saw have some heart, when another girls money was stolen. That other girl being my friend. She gave her money as a loan, so that bills wouldn't go unpaid. Otherwise, I never saw a slight flicker in her that resembled a decent person.

    The other is beyond words. Her hateful spiteful ways are abundant and over zealous. She steps infront of others ( and that is said in the literal sense .) She insures that those she doesn't like, cannot be rehired. She also cons good decent men out of 10's of thousands of dollars on any given night. Yet, she needs more.

    Again I'll throw in, a bit of devils advocate here. Good for her for making that money. At the same time, you should be able to make that money without using your children as stripper sob story pawns, for justification and means. Just admit you are a greedy cunt with no honest and likeable bone about you. Just admit it. we might all be able to stand looking at your boney ass.

    ah those girls. How I dont miss them at all. Do I hate them? I will say that I'm on the bandwagon of bitterness. Not because they did me wrong. But, because they are in the wrong. The only pleasure I can take out of it all, is that neither one will amount to much more than what they are now. Eventually gravity and age will take its toll, both will be sent off to stripper retirement heaven, aka The Brads Brass Flamingo.

    Back to the over all reason for this post. Backstabbing. In this job field, its a fucking sport. I promise it is. On any given day, several of us huddle in masses whispering jokes and seedy stories of a girl we worked with prior. Be it yesterday or last year. We trade these stories and watch over our shoulders for listening ears, or worse yet ...management.

    Am I proud that I am apart of this epidemic? Absolutely not. However, there is nothing I say in my sewing circles that I wouldn't admit to , if asked.

    There are those of us, that on a boring Monday will discuss girls we hadnt worked with before, but since have. We discuss either laughable drunk episodes we were witness to, or the strange sexual things we might have seen or heard about. I think it's our way of coping with what we do. Not that it makes it right.

    Then there are others, who buzz from circle to circle spreading lies or talking down to others, in order to build or shall I say...rebuild themselves into something great. It never works. If it does ( which is rare ) it's for a fleeting moment. Only later to be washed away by it being exposed for what it is. Which is a desperate attempt at acceptance by those that will never accept them .

    Stripping is much like two things in life we always hope to never encounter or see again. One being the highschool cafeteria , the other being prision.

    There are groups.

    There is the A squad, which mostly consists of the top earners with bodies we all wish we had ( but completely hate on as a way of covering our lust. ) These women are not so much ruthless as they are dedicated to taking care of business. They rarely talk to anyone outside of their circle. If they do happen to talk to you, you almost begin to glow. You rapidly dream of days they'll include you in their money fests.You dream of rolling around like crazy naked people in pooles of cash and black amex cards. Likely though, it may never come to be. They are mostly all well spoken and with a trained eye. These girls, are what we all secretly aim to be ..whether we'd like to admit it or not. They have perfected the stage show, the smile...the walk ..and the hair flip. They are those girls in highschool, we would catch ourselves staring at. Almost oggling with a crush. of course we hated on them the minute anyone noticed we were looking at them longer than a blink. None the less, they are what we will never be. no matter how soulless the thought of it is. You know you wish you woke up bronze, thin with a 22in waist and flowing hair that never ever was out of place. Youd swear they fart diamond dust and lilacs

    The B squad are the girls that make good not great amounts of cash, are easy on the eyes and like the A squad are well intact as far as speaking to customers go.. however B's almost always choose to be a B. A's are scarey to them, almost drone like with their ability to tune out the world and operate. B's are rebels of sorts with drive that can come and go on a whim. They want to know and see all. Which is half their problem. They literally go to work to earn cash, chat it up with their girls and dance to some dorky lita ford song that makes them smile inside . B's wish that their squad would all one day take over that goddamn club in unison. Eh but then..who would dance to She wants revenge? Someone has to be on stage with good music. The b's are just what they were in Highschool. The..unknowns. The artsy rebel chicks with nothing better to do than talk about shows, sex toys and the finer art of ex boyfriends in bands. They discuss everyone and their squad placement and mingle flawlessly with all other squads. Except the D squad although sometimes for a laugh they try. The pretty girls that dont really fit into the cut out standard of pretty. They dance to the obscure or the off the wall rap. Music that isnt always typical and never heard. Their angst is their drive and their misplacement is their placement. I myself am a proud B squad member.

    C squad isn't really a sad place to be. They are not the misfits ( no that's reserved for the b's ) instead they seem to be the invisibles. Probably the ones the management and dj's enjoy the most. They aren't demanding. They show up. They make no fuss, no drunken stupors or idiotic remarks. They are attractive girls, that are rather plain but something gets the guys gears going. These girls sorta just exist at the club. No one really knows their names, or how long they've actually been there...or how much they even make. They somehow blend in and chainsmoke over by the back stage. They speak to no one unless spoken to. they are kind ..fragile looking girls . Who just show up and do their job. All of us at one time has glanced over and thought...shit I wish I could go back to that. They move or glide back and forth between the poles to either Metallica or some aged techno that we all have heard for 10 years now. Sometimes a various C squad branches out . But mostly its Techno,hard rock and commerical rap

    D squad ... these ladies, if you want to call them that. are the trolls of the strip club community. And are an arrangement of what the fucks. They are the girls that you often wonder ...how on earth did they talk the boss into getting hired here?! They are a misshapen group of people that seem to linger like a bad beer and taco fart. Although most are nice, most aren't. Their drunken asshole comments, behavior and disgusting display of body is enough to make all of us a little angry inside. No squad seeks to know them. They are the avoidables. If you are lucky.In order to make money they fling their bodies about on the stage, air humping and jitrating around as if they are having a seziure due to the new strobe light installed. There is always something greatly amiss. Drugs are common and obvious. Infact D squad is the snaggle squad ( which btw is my new choice word for 07 ) I would feel sorry for these girls, if they hadnt brought it about themselves. These aren't poor pathetic girls. These are women that chose to make their lives an irreversible mess of shit. that they wallow in on main stage to nickelback and probably that fucking humps song if allowed. these are the people you aspire NOT to be. They are your nightly reminder that you cannot do this forever. If you do, you'll slowly become a snaggle., forced to work and show your snaggle vag to customers high on drugs for an extra buck. Your life will one day possibly be that pathetic., that it will be your only sexual contact.


    All squads dress in uniform as well.


    A's are the socialites of the club, so their gowns and attire always reflect it. Of course they also make a gazillion dollars a year to spend on the shit too.

    B's. Wear the same shit only they trade with other b's and occasionally when squad a or c sells something., they buy it up in a frenzy. They believe in the almighty lucky gowns.

    C's no one notices, so who knows what they wear. Probably something ...clear.

    D's ...dear god. Nothing ever fits and if you were to place them into a normal strip club setting I swear on all I've got, they'd wear those sling shot one piece deals from the early 90's. You know the ones, the ones with the american flag on it.

    Be it in prision or highschool, there are the groups and there are the rumor mills. Rumor spreading is part of a womans makeup. Be it a true story or not., we cannot help ourselves from discussing it with EVERYONE within earshot. Its in our nature to be snide , cruel smiling creatures with a talking habit.

    Okay so maybe not all of us, but a good majority of us are that way . If you swear you'd never, then you must have some boring ass friends. We all try and fight that shit , but the minute someone comes over and says

    " Girl you will NOT believe who I just saw with a finger in her ass "...

    You loose all ability to resist. You immediately go " WHO?!" and look around.

    You never will hesitate. and why the hell would you ? You know if you didnt' find out , youd just wait till the next time you worked to figure it out ..praying to god everynight until then that the girl didn't go on vacation or forget.

    If its about someone we sorta know or kinda tolerate, we will join right in with the slander and the tid bits of bullshit we've acquired while knowing them as well.

    If the said person ever tries to work with us again, we always oblige , who knows what they might do next.

    Again its not acceptable but goddamnit its fun. !!

    But the worst kind of rumor starting bullshit, are the girls that are supposed to be your near and dear friends. The girls that swear they'd never and haven't ever, spoken ill about you~

    Liars.

    These are the worst people. And they are in all the squads. You think you know your squad until lo and behold someone in another squad tells you something you swore your group to secrecy over.

    The acts of betrayl aren't uncommon or new. You always know who it is too . They are always lending a shoulder, and ear. You think that they are being kind and generous but in all reality they are just getting new material for the next " (insert your name here ) joke ".

    Those types are much if not exactly like the top two girls I mentioned at the top that I had once worked with.

    These types of backstabbing Coots will make sure the minute your back is turned that your "friends" will learn all about you plus some. If they run out of shit they will make it up ...

    Those girls are a mess. And miserable. You know the age old saying. Misery loves company. And today it wants to earn it's own squad.

    I wish that there was some sorta of backstabbing shield, to prevent all of us

    even the non strippers , to avoid the mess at all costs. It causes so much unneeded worry and pain..paranoia and heartache . That you swear you'll do without friends for the rest of your fucking life so help you christ ( shakes fist )

    There is one easy solution and that is to say fuck you and not have any friends. That never works. Trust me I've tried.

    You can say to yourself

    "im here to do my time and get out "

    " Im here to get my education and get out "

    " Im here to work and get the fuck out "

    But all of these situations are lonely if you have no one to relate to, when the rest of the world isn't getting it.

    Backstabbers suck but they are an evil neccesary of life. My solution is to embrace it, and remember to only tell people enough to make nice. the more you allow people to know, the more they have to run with.

    Knowledge is power, and so is silence.

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    I'm having flashbacks.

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    Interesting caste system theory, lol, not quite my experience, but to each her own.
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    LOL that thread was hilarious and very accurate! Good writing, Tart! ::thumbs up::

    Now you have me wondering which crowd I'd fit in. I'm not a D or an A, I'm thinking probably in the B crowd. When I first started dancing, I was really quiet, submissive, and did whatever management needed, so I was a C. But then when I got my breast implants and confidence resulting from more experience dancing, I broke out of my shell more and became a B.

    LOL although a lot of the Ds are trash and kinda bring down the rep of the club, I do admit that they are great for entertainment purposes! I mean seriously, look at the infamous thread "Stripper hall of shame" that was inspired by these losers' acts! And I agree 110% about using these "D-rate girls" as role models for who NOT to be like!(LOL I have a short list of a few specific girls! not all of them are Ds though, some of them are Cs lol)

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    Wow, Tart, That is awsome!

    I have luckily avioded most of that crap in recent years by not having a "home" club. I just work at a club for a week or a month then I move on. No drama, no rumours and no back stabbing. It is difficult to back stab someone who just doesn't give a shit. I work my week and then I'm gone with a fist full of money.

    I have never had many "dancer" friends. Not to say I wasn't friendly at work, I just didn't hang out of chat on the phone with other dancers I worked with.


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    Oh god, that sounds awful.

    I've luckily had next to zero experiences like you describe..in part because, like Paris, i move around a lot, and in part because my home market is so non-competitive (hard to be competitive when you're doing paid shows for small audiences).

    Then again, I could just be oblivious. Which is probably a good thing.

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    all of those that say " god thank GOD i dont have that " are current with the fact they aren't in a home club. Most of us that have lived / ie worked a home club for extended periods of time, and these gown clubs have these experiences.

    I find it all funny. The dynamics of a stripclub isn't much different than other situations with very close quarters.

    I like to post things we can all crack a smile to. Hell its better than another crack whore/ anal thread

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    Thoughtful essay. It made me think of the movies "Heathers" & "Jawbreaker"...

    My dad told me long ago that Bars are "places where people with problems go to get into more problems." So I avoided socializing at work because of that. I never thought of the stripper caste system because of that....

    I have noticed that customers prefer the B & C squads- they remember all that high-school sh*t of the prettiest girls holding out for the best of the best. That's why B & Cs can make a living.
    Yeah, the Ds would be a mess in life anywhere they ended up. I can't say bar life did it to them.

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    Your dad had wonderful advice! And so true it is. When you are working in a place as small and intimate as where I work with say 40 girls a night, you tend to talk to people. Everyone for the most part is rather friendly.

    So its not hard to strike up friendships or find things in common. It help passes time. Not too mention give you easier help when it comes to large groups in the champagne room.

    I notice that C class guys go for A class women. I think because with MONEY they feel like now they can get that attention. And almost get back by knowing these women are at their whim.

    D class men... well we all run and hide from those fuckers lol

    B class guys can go with Either as long as they find the conversation is a good one.

    A class men, usually almost always go with B or C's

    Its odd to watch it all happen, and very very amusing lol. It gives me something to psychoanalyze on a slow night or a night im feeling like a cow on stage lol

    I enjoy my job I truly do, but in order to get over the hohums I sit and do this babble shit.

    When I wrote this I actually not only thought of heathers but mean girls lol. Both of which I heart.,

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    Oh i'd like to add, this post was more about clubs that are large sized. I realize with smaller clubs there are groups of friends and its a home staff. IE most small town clubs etc. Drama is easily filtered out.

    But on the grand scale of things, in large cities you cannot avoid this shit. 238 girls employed you see all kinds of interesting things

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    That made for a very interesting read-thanks Tart! While I haven't been in the biz long enough to see all of these dynamics, they sound about right. I'm not sure where I'd fit in your little system-maybe a mix of a B and a C? The reason I say that is because when I go to work I'm in work-mode. I rarely ever socialize and hang out in the dressing room and am always out on the floor chatting up customers and trying to make money. I figure I'm there to make money, do my job, go home and not to make friends, and if I do that's just a bonus! That's not to say I'm not friendly with everyone or don't make small-talk or chit chat with them, cause I do. But then again, just from what I've seen at my club-I have no desire to get to know the vast majority of the poeple there. I do work in Whoreston, ahem, Houston, after all! I've found too that the people who are like me tend to do the exact same thing.

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    Great story, terrific writing. I think I may do whatever begging you require to get into your blog Tart.

    Your analagies were very accurate. I considered myself a C for the most part, because I came to work and left, making a few friends here and there. But I've been a part of A and B as well.

    Now the D's, omfg, I hate those anchorweights!! Right on girlie!!

    I'll go dance now, "kiss me once, kiss me twice, c'mon pretty baby kiss me deadly!"

    Oh, and sooooo true, D's love Nickelback. Mediocrity meets mediocrity.

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    At my old club I was a B, at my new club I'm probably more like an A. That's Ohio compared to Chicago. The competition isn't quite as fierce

    I wish diamond dust came out when I farted though, that would be hot.

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    Me too, I wish I farted diamond dust! Hell, maybe we could save it and it would be very valuable!

    I have to say I really got a good laugh at this thread, I can't say I can relate or know what you're talking about because I'm kinda in my own little world when I'm at the club, the one thing on my mind is gotta make more, gotta make more, etc. so I hardly notice what other girls are doing. I do talk to girls and have a small group that I do work with on a more regular basis but don't know much about their personal lives, actually, I think there's only 2-3 girls I know anything about and only 1 I hang out with OTC, but she and I were friends before I started dancing. I guess now I'll go in and look at all the girls differently and see who's in what group. I can say that this group thing was totally accurate in highschool though and the rumors and stuff that I have heard of before at my club I've thought "Oh, gosh, I feel like I"m in H.S. again"

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    Just curious, why do the A customers tend to go for the Bs and Cs, instead of A dancers?

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    I love it!!!! It makes me want to post it at work, but i'll refrain. However, I'll die tonight when I see them. I'm waiting to see who ends up dead in Mexico with her.......

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    I truly think A customers go to B and C's because they believe they will be more interested in them, then say their money.

    We all know why people go to d's lol

    Oh and Kylie...I wish I could figure out who she'll kill

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    Actually I find that the drama and bullshit is WORSE in those small clubs because you just can't get away from it. EVERYBODY knows everybody's business, right down to the last time you took a dump and what color/consistency it was. It's easier to avoid in bigger clubs because you can be more anonymous - there's plenty of others for them to talk to or about besides you

    Interesting caste system theory. If I were to go strictly by that I don't know where I'd fit because I'd be a little bit A and a little bit B. I think most of us are a little more complex than that


    But yeah, A men go for B and C strippers because 1) they can get A women IRL, and 2) they think the B-C strippers are more "into" them instead of their money. Boy how wrong are they?? lol

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    you know bridgett I do agree as far , MY personal experience in the smaller clubs. Everyone spoke shit about another. Kylie and myself were out at lunch today discussing this thread. And when we were talking about girls in small clubs that say " oh i've never heard of that " lol its easy to pin where they fall into the social shit.

    The caste system isn't of course 100 % but its fun to poke fun and its fun to see it as black n' white. I can flip and be anywhere from an A -C depending on the club I'm working at.

    The smaller clubs Im an A. Big fish small pond theory. In the big show clubs Hell I start at a C and once I gain confidence I go to B and rarely A,.

    but if you work constant shifts , at least my situation, ( because I do stay out of the dressing room. ) I still hear the drama. its everywhere. OF course its not as vicious as it was in the smaller clubs. I found in the smaller ones you could fight that shit out ...not that it's much better lol

    With my club instead of the face to face speaking.. its girls running to msg boards or spreading rumors

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    I wonder if we do not all eventually pass from one group to another the more time we spend in the profession ?

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    i think we do. but some i swear are born a's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tart View Post
    i think we do. but some i swear are born a's.
    Yeah, that I'll definitely agree with. It seems like some girls just "have it" without even batting an eye. Bitches!

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    Actually I find that the drama and bullshit is WORSE in those small clubs because you just can't get away from it. EVERYBODY knows everybody's business, right down to the last time you took a dump and what color/consistency it was.
    So true. Also, in reference to trying to mind your own business, it can be a tricky proposition to keep to yourself in a small club. That can make you look like you're stuck up and then you become the subject of rumors that are totally fabricated. I think you have to interact just enough to protect your own interests.

    As long as we're categorizing, I'd say there are three levels of gossips. The Backstabbers: those who achieve the maximum level of maliciousness, who backstab for personal gain and inflecting pain. The Blabbermouths: those who don't seem to have malicious intent but they're so addicted to the drama that they absorb and spew everything without thinking about the impact of it. The Casuals: those who participate much less, but hey, everyone's curious, so they trade information for mild amusement and self preservation, like knowing where crap is buried so as not to step in it.

    Actually, I think it's worse in the office where I work now than in any club I've worked. It's such petty nibbling. I don't know why, but I find that type of gossip more annoying than major backstabbing. I suppose 'cause the latter eventually backfires and gets exposed. The petty nibbling goes on forever, and I find it to be depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    Actually, I think it's worse in the office where I work now than in any club I've worked. It's such petty nibbling. I don't know why, but I find that type of gossip more annoying than major backstabbing. I suppose 'cause the latter eventually backfires and gets exposed. The petty nibbling goes on forever, and I find it to be depressing.
    Ugh yes, that was also my office experience. I'll take the stripclub bullshit and drama ANYday - at least it's mostly entertaining LOL!!

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    Tart, I enjoy your posts but (thankfully) I couldnt relate. I couldnt finnish it either because mostly it is so far removed from my world. Yeah Ive incountered a few bitches, and of course Ive laughed at times at someone elses expense - but thats no different to anyone else anywhere else. Over-all my stripping experience has been rather pleasant! (-:
    I like the last line and its sentiment - very true!

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