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    I live in Melbourne, Australia

    *** this is a whole lof of rambly shit that i've tried to reword ***

    basically, I'm trying to arrange for a stripper for a birthday party. I want a stripper on a Tuesday night (30th Jan) for about 4 hours. I'm trying to not go through an agency to save some $$. I've organized the function room to be mildly air conditioned and there will be a wooden stage with no pole. What things can I do to maximize the chances of getting a good professional stripper? What is a good (for me) but reasonable for the stripper that I should try to negotiate for? And what are some terms and conditions that you as a stripper would like to have, so that I can try to create some goodwill?
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    bearing the above in mind, what's a reasonable rate to offer?
    ...why try to offer? She will tell you the rate at which point you can try negotiating.
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    Seems like more of a question for the Private Dancing section, except - you want a private club? I'm confused.




    Later edit: Went ahead and moved it, with a temporary redirect. Good luck.
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    I didn't know there was a section on private stripping.

    Basically I want a stripper for a function. Does that constitute private?

    So I should ask a stripper how much she's willing to do a private show under X conditions for Y hours and start negotiating from there? And ask a few to get a sense of the prevailing market rate?

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    I think, for quality 200/hr plus whatever she charges for dances wouldn't be so bad I figure 200 == 10 dances at the club in one hour with a 10 minute break, so if NO ONE TIPS, she wins, but that's complete ass if no one tips, so anything above that is well, slush in her funds and kicks in her back.
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    ok firstly I run an agency I am not going to tell you to book through me, but I can give you the following pointers -

    - Girls @ strip clubs are unreliable, I have filled so many jobs because the client had a stripper lined up and she cancels
    - A stripper will not let the customer pick her up and drop her off, this you can forget! They generally have drivers/security
    - Booking through an agency gives you the guarantee that you are getting what you pay for + the booking will be fulfilled!
    - An agency knows what to charge and will give you the best price, seriously for the $50 you may save (more then likely not though) you will end up paying the girl less for more time (get me??)
    - if you going to pay a private party stripper you must understand that generally the girls choreograph their show, meaning you can not book a 'straight strip show' to last for 1 hour, the girl will get extremely bored and will not give a good performance - For a booking where you want the girl to strip naked for 4 hours full nude, with no guarantee of tips, your looking at paying between $300 - $400 p/h as this is what the girls are paid to do toy shows and the girls would rather do 3- 5 shows of 30 mins over a 4 hour straight booking for 200 p/h (from what has been mentioned above)(seeming as for a 30 min show the girls get 250 so you would have to do better then that)
    - An agency is your protector of many things including quality, reliability, tried and tested and well known girls
    - An agency is the best way to book as they will provide you with a good balance of p/h rate for the girl + yourself.
    - A stripper will trust an agency over some guy in a strip club begging for her to do a private party (god I hated when guys would do that, we generally walk off)
    - An agency will advise you that your better off purchasing a few services for you $$ rather then have just 1 girl for 4 hours
    - you would be surprised how busy Tuesday nights actually are! Generally we have regular bookings or the girls are committed to their club
    - about 40% of stripper study/work 9-5 in week days, so who is to say that the girl you want will be available? Booking through an agency will give you a great head start with trying to find a girl as we have more contacts then some one browsing the net!
    - about 80% of strippers who have online portfolios + listed with agencies will ignore a 1 off booking, as generally the girls are scouting for ‘non – adult’ related work such as modeling, promotions etc and I found when I was offered work I would ignore it as any one dodging an agency is a ‘no-go’ zone

    There are many reasons why if you book through an agency your getting a better deal!

    Have you thought about topless waitresses who do a show @ the end of their shift? This would be a much better way to entertain your guests! The girls can do lap dances for your guests and will have a good opportunity to make good tips! They will serve drinks and entertain it is a win-win situation for you + it is not as expensive @ $90.00p/h with a min of 2 hours!

    You say you’re a cheap person however you are going the most expensive route to get your stripper remember time is $$! Count they time, phone calls etc of negotiating a stripper who may or may not show up when you can make a few minutes call to the agency of your choice and you can get what you want, when you want no messing around! Plus there is nothing worse from an agency POV if they have a customer who calls needing a stripper with in the hour for a show/waitress shift after they explain their pre-organized stripper never showed up and after a few questions, we find out that they have gone direct to the girl! Well I guess this happens so often! If you make a last minute booking with an agency they can not guarantee your getting the best girl suitable for the job, unfortunately we don’t have a warehouse full of models and drivers who are able to go straight to your house!

    I don’t know why men allow themselves to think they are doing a stripper a favor by not going through an agency, however the girls are compensated well enough with an agency and they trust their agency as we screen the customer to an extent!

    Good luck!
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    or maybe you can organize ot meet at a strip club! That also would offer you a great place to celebrate and have private dances with many different girls available!

    Sorry for the long post, however I amswer the phone all day long to men asking for a stripper because their other one fell through (In the last few weeks I have had several calls - no joke) I am just up to the eye balls of girls being unprofessional!
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    Basically I want a stripper for a function. Does that constitute private? --- YES.

    Your best bet is to hire a waitress for four hours and a stripper (as not all topless waitresses do shows so do not assume you will get one that will) for the last half hour of the whole night.

    If you seriously want to save some dollars - go visit one of the many strip clubs along King St. You will be EASILY entertained for four hours and be able to have a variety of girls to choose from right then and there who can give table and/or lap dances for you and/or your mates throughout the night.


    Plus the day you picked couldn't be a worse day! Alot of private party dancers are only available Fri/Sat due to other work happening on the other nights (be it working in a club, study-ing, being with their family and so forth) as not all strippers (and private party/agency girls) are on call 24/7 ... so your chances of booking the girl you request on that particular night is not high.

    Why can't you have the function on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday or even Sunday? They are the best nights to have a chance of hiring a quality private party girl (both a topless waitress and/or stripper).

    In the end, if you do not opt for a strip club that night then you are going to have to go through an agency. Just like any other business - you get what you pay for in the end. You want to be cheap, don't be surprised you also get cheap/nasty in return


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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    thanks for your valuable time everybody, especially GCG thanks for sharing the taking the time to share the valuable information with me

    I've been a person who's always acquired my services from freelancing practitioners and I've been lucky to get really good service and never been burned. I didn't realize stripping would be so different so thanks for the reality check!

    I'm going to have to rethink my plans. BTW, goldcoastgirl, do you have the ability to arrange stuff in melbourne?

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    Please refer to Mild2Wild "to arrange stuff in Melbourne" as I have never had the desire to be an agent and she is one and a good one at that working in Melbourne............. www.mild2wild.com.au

    Stripping is different. It really isn't worth trying to organise without the assistance of an agent/agency unless you know the stripper from the strip club (as in been a regular of hers) or another arena in life.


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    Thanks GCG
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    I was only saying the truth. I'm not interested in being an agent and having to organise something that isn't even in the same state as me isn't to my benefit. Let someone who knows what to do and do it well do it.


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    If youre a hack then charge what a hack should get whichis little. If youre a professional and can project yourself as a top earner, price yourself higher. But never ever work for agencies. You might as well get a pimp.
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    Default Re: What's fair compensation for stripping?

    Whats fair competition?

    250 for the gig

    Dancer - $225.00
    Agent (see: pimp wannabe) $25.00
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    Okay amy... we get it, you don't like working for agencies. That's your opinion. Many girls here prefer to work for agencies, so you don't need to bash it in every single thread...

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    I love my agent... agents take about 20-30%... take a lower percentage for the higher price of dancing so the girl feels it's worth it.

    $300 for the gig is what I charge with no agent fee (the way my agent works is - if they give you a wait job with no show, you keep 100%.. if they mention a show and say you MIGHT get one depending... they keep their % of a certain show but you get to keep what you upsell).


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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    If youre a hack then charge what a hack should get whichis little. If youre a professional and can project yourself as a top earner, price yourself higher. But never ever work for agencies. You might as well get a pimp.
    From my experience and those of others here in Australia it is ONLY worth going out on your own and working for yourself if you can guarantee yourself the work (been doing it for years and have a good rep and people who book you regularly).

    Plus there is a huge amount of work both contracted and not that you miss out on because you aren't part of an agency.

    Not to mention that the agents themselves are kinda 'chummy' with each other as such and will make it hard for you to work (and not make it profitable for you to work independantly).

    Oh. It is also only worth working independantly if you are willing to become an agent/agency yourself.
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    I dont really care what australia is like since Ill never work there.

    Its just my experience that I can make more and do better on my own without some pimp wannabe takinga cut from work he didnt do.
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    you dont care what australia is like yet your replying to a question that for melbourne australia? WTF??

    in melbourne a girl should be getting 10 - 20% higher rate then qld
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    Yeah this whole thread has been about private party dancing in Australia, which is COMPLETELY different to private party dancing in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    I dont really care what australia is like since Ill never work there.

    Its just my experience that I can make more and do better on my own without some pimp wannabe takinga cut from work he didnt do.
    Amy if you feel that way, then what do you think the DJ, bouncers in your club are doing? If you aren't tipping them right, isn't the intro a little off, music just not right. Oh, and what about the bouncer? If he's not tipped right, he usually won't come to your rescue at every emergency.

    When I did private dances, I LOVED it. Why spend 7hrs walking around in circles at a club sittin in laps, hell TRYING to sit in laps to get a dance when I could easily work at an agency who has my entire night (2-3hrs) booked







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    ^ Guaranteed money - that's why I'll never go back.

    I always know I'm going to make xxx every night and I can only make MORE, not less.


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    I tip the bouncers, DJ and Valet. Im probably the best tipper in my club as far as giving to the other support people but they actually do something I cant do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    I tip the bouncers, DJ and Valet. Im probably the best tipper in my club as far as giving to the other support people but they actually do something I cant do.
    Actually technically you could play some CD's, watch your own back and park your own car. You pay them because it's easier and/or they do it better then you could.Which are many of the same reasons a lot of girls use agencies. And you likely pay out at least 10-15% of what you make in house and tip outs(at least I did). So not really any differance, excpet that someone else is doing all your hustling for you.

    I agree with darcy...we get that you dont like agencies for whatever reason...theres no point in bringing it up in every thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    actuakky I despise agencies and agents. id rather see an agent beheaded by al qaeda than talk to them about working for their agency.
    Y'know, at first I felt you must've been burned recently and are getting over it - but you are SERIOUSLY bitter. That is an absolutely cruel thing to say.


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