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    lilith I dont mean no one no harm but in the past 18 months Ive had my mom put into a wheelchair by a drunk driver and my ex-husband become an asshole so I Im sorry If I vent but Its much better to do so than other things people resort to in order to deal with lifes bs.
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    so whats all this agent hating stuff?

    agencies have come a long way since the 'pimp' days! Many australian agencies are professional and are far from pimping out the girls!!!

    Seriously get over yourself!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    actuakky I despise agencies and agents. id rather see an agent beheaded by al qaeda than talk to them about working for their agency.
    Ouch!


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    yeah but amy, it's not the agents faults that all that happened, so please, chill out with the extreme agent hating.

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    Amylynnej, I read your post earlier about agents getting $25 or 10% from a $250 show and almost spilled my drink. You're gonna love this, but I'll take 85% of the booking fee and only pay someone to drive/bounce the show, and contrary to my notoriety on this site, I'm considered the "good guy" in my area.

    I meet bitter dancers with the same "You're a pimp" argument, but first, let me assure you, if an agent was a pimp, they would not only take the booking fee, but all of the dancers tips as well! You should just know your role and play your part! Sucessfully running a stripper agency is not pimping, this is just business! That "we work the hardest" argument is totally off, I'm sure the current CEO of McDonalds has never flipped a burger but still makes more money than a small nation, now are you gonna go on a McDonalds message board and bitch about that.

    When it's all said and done, dancers make more money than me; I only hear this "Your a pimp" argument when a dancer is (once again) broke or getting fat/old and can't make the money like they used to!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ctstriptease1 View Post
    Amylynnej, I read your post earlier about agents getting $25 or 10% from a $250 show and almost spilled my drink. You're gonna love this, but I'll take 85% of the booking fee and only pay someone to drive/bounce the show, and contrary to my notoriety on this site, I'm considered the "good guy" in my area.

    I meet bitter dancers with the same "You're a pimp" argument, but first, let me assure you, if an agent was a pimp, they would not only take the booking fee, but all of the dancers tips as well! You should just know your role and play your part! Sucessfully running a stripper agency is not pimping, this is just business! That "we work the hardest" argument is totally off, I'm sure the current CEO of McDonalds has never flipped a burger but still makes more money than a small nation, now are you gonna go on a McDonalds message board and bitch about that.

    When it's all said and done, dancers make more money than me; I only hear this "Your a pimp" argument when a dancer is (once again) broke or getting fat/old and can't make the money like they used to!
    i have to admit ! love the last paragraph!!
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    OMG amy...WE GET IT...you dont like agents. Get over it already...you're a bitchy broken record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylynnej View Post
    agents are pimps. there is nothing different between an agent or a pimp. the only good agent --- well thats a different story!
    Just because I'm getting REAL sick of this:

    pimp /pɪmp/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pimp] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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    1. a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer.
    2. a despicable person.
    3. Australia and New Zealand. an informer; stool pigeon.
    –verb (used without object)
    4. to act as a pimp.
    –verb (used with object)
    5. to act as a pimp for.
    6. to exploit.
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    2. a person or thing that acts or has the power to act.
    3. a natural force or object producing or used for obtaining specific results: Many insects are agents of fertilization.
    4. an active cause; an efficient cause.
    5. a person who works for or manages an agency.

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    Yes it was wrong of me to say but I dont apologize for it since some people may not see it as sincere. I have issues of my own and Ill keep them to myself from now on.
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    Amylynnej, please don't keep your opinions to yourself!

    The problem with this board is that everyone agrees with everyone and it gets to be really predictable and boring. I mostly disagree with you but find your postings to be refreshing.


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    WOAH I thought my thread would have just died... but not so I check back and there's so many posts.

    I did manage find a girl for myself. I was taking a class @ pole divas and I just asked around and the girl was recommended to me by a couple of people so I thought I was unlikely to get burned 'cos I knew some of her friends and the studio she frequented. Turned out to be a great night. I paid her $300 for 2 hours (she could keep whatever tips she landed) and I thought she was an excellent dancer. She even volunteered her pole and I took it to and from the venue in my van. I'm intending to ask her to do any shows from now on.

    I hate agents too, but not *that* much. There's good ones and bad ones. Good ones can save you so much time that they're worth the cost. Problem is it's really hard to tell which agent is good and which agent is shit because of the information assymetry. For the customer, though, agents and other middlemen are generally bad.

    Thanks for the responses and hearty discussion!

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    $300 for 2 hours HA you got ripped off!
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    really. that's kinda sad...

    Sad I didn't get the best deal, but also sad that strippers making that little? For the amount of work she was doing, she was private dancing and stage dancing almost non-stop. Talking in Australian dollars naturally... A pair of good ballroom dancer or salsa dancer would expect $400-600 for about a 20 minute show. My hip hop dance troupe gets about the same, for 20 minutes, but there's 4 people to share it with

    If that's the case, then and I can actually get it cheaper from an agency which takes a further cut the girls would be getting a pittance! Are they really relying on tips (which in my limited experience doesn't generally happen because people aren't expecting to tip strippers when they go to a birthday)

    Thanks for the reality check. Will do even more market research at my next opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mild2wild View Post
    $300 for 2 hours HA you got ripped off!
    Are you serious? Theres no way anyone I know would have done it for less.... Thats actually a really good price. Unless he wanted a washed up toothless stripper....

    for a good entertainer, pretty, etc...$300 for 2 hours is MORE than reasonable. The last bach party I did cost the guy $1000 for me and a friend(he wanted a 2 girl show). That was for ONE hour

    Any decent strip club would have charged at LEAST $300 an hour for a VIP room....
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    it is obvious you don't know much about the private party industry in australia then! Girls are getting between $40 - $100 p/h for hostessing @ bucks parties etc, the quality of girls are amazing! want proof? check out www.mild2wild.com.au (the only time I will push for people to visit my website!

    Gold Coast Girl will agree with this too!
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    Is that US money??? Wow....hiring a (good)girl for a private party is a LOT cheaper in Aus. then here!! $40 an hour? Is "hostessing" the equivelent of stripping? Because I cant imagine stripping at a private party for $40 an hour!!!! Holy Crap!
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    it works alot different in australia.... basically you can book a show off the menu (service page) which is priced between $180 for 10 mins and $300 for toys for 30 mins (including agency fee, so minus between $70 - $100 for agency comission)

    In the OP salsa forever asked for a stripper for 4 hours - which means his looking for a hostess/waitress whether it be bikini, topless or nude who will also perform lap dances and a show at the end if she is tipped. (Lap dances are not included in her pay)

    generally the girls are paid between 40 - 100 australian dollars p/h, this is for her time if she wants to do lapdances, then she must charge the guys more, and if she is to do a show, she must do that after her shift is complete.

    Unlike what I have gathered in the USA where the stripper will attend the party to do lapdances only.

    Put it this way - for $300 he could have gotten a bikini waitress for 4 hours (would have gotten change) or a topless waitress for 3 hours (would have got change) or a nude waitress for $260 for 2 hours. Or he could have gotten a topless waitress for 2 hours + a straight strip show at the end! The stripper would have served drinks, chatted, entertained, done lapdances and a show at the end! Which is a huge difference from $300 for 2 hours.....
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    I can back mild2wild up on what she has said. The $100 per hour is generally for nude waitressing tho' and the more you are willing to do in a show the more you are paid here in Australia.

    For private parties, it certainly does work alot different here in Aust compared to US.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mild2wild View Post
    it works alot different in australia.... basically you can book a show off the menu (service page) which is priced between $180 for 10 mins and $300 for toys for 30 mins (including agency fee, so minus between $70 - $100 for agency comission)

    In the OP salsa forever asked for a stripper for 4 hours - which means his looking for a hostess/waitress whether it be bikini, topless or nude who will also perform lap dances and a show at the end if she is tipped. (Lap dances are not included in her pay)

    generally the girls are paid between 40 - 100 australian dollars p/h, this is for her time if she wants to do lapdances, then she must charge the guys more, and if she is to do a show, she must do that after her shift is complete.

    Unlike what I have gathered in the USA where the stripper will attend the party to do lapdances only.

    Put it this way - for $300 he could have gotten a bikini waitress for 4 hours (would have gotten change) or a topless waitress for 3 hours (would have got change) or a nude waitress for $260 for 2 hours. Or he could have gotten a topless waitress for 2 hours + a straight strip show at the end! The stripper would have served drinks, chatted, entertained, done lapdances and a show at the end! Which is a huge difference from $300 for 2 hours.....

    thanks for the heads up!

    I had requested she LD for the host without extra charge.

    That's kinda shitty pay. I would have thought for the intensity of the work and the shitty working environment the girls would receive more. Makes me feel really grateful that as a dancer who doesn't have to take clothes off I get paid as much as I do.

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    I'm sorry i missed out but what kind of dancing do you do again? And where do you work out of?

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    Excuse me but it is NOT SHITTY WORK! Infact $40 - $100 p/h is great pay especially considering that most of the girls who do it are infact uni-students, thus mainly their work options are fast food outlets who pay a measly 10$ p/h!

    Weekend just past, one of my girls raked in over 1000$ just in waitressing! Thats right!! No Shows, just hostess/waitress!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    thanks for the heads up!

    I had requested she LD for the host without extra charge.

    That's kinda shitty pay. I would have thought for the intensity of the work and the shitty working environment the girls would receive more. Makes me feel really grateful that as a dancer who doesn't have to take clothes off I get paid as much as I do.
    You feel like it's shitty pay huh...well it obviously wasn't to shitty if you still wanted her to do some lapdances for the host for Free!? WTH







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    that's unreasonable. I didn't pay her the prevailing rate for a stripper who would also receive the proceeds from any private dancing.

    there was a mutual agreement that she accepted on her free will. For the record I don't think $300 for 2 hours is shitty and I'm within my rights to control how she spends those 2 hours. Just like if I pay a band $300 to play at my party or $60 for my massage therapist, I should be able to ask the band to play whatever I want, so long as its reasonable. Nor is it unreasonable to ask my massage therapist to use all or part of that hour massaging my girlfriend who hurt herself.

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    get over it! Thats what I say!

    Next time before you tell me that my staff get shitty pay - maybe you should have some knowledge in the industry
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    Quote Originally Posted by salsa4ever View Post
    Just like if I pay a band $300 to play at my party or $60 for my massage therapist, I should be able to ask the band to play whatever I want, so long as its reasonable. Nor is it unreasonable to ask my massage therapist to use all or part of that hour massaging my girlfriend who hurt herself.
    But see, that's why you're always supposed to interview the people who will perform services on you. Yea, you may get a band...but if they are a rock band, hell you can REQUEST that they play polka, but if they dont know polka, they ain't playing it! Secondly, just like with the massage therapy. A Massage therapist will not split her skill into performing for two people. Again, you can REQUEST this, but I strongly doubt she will oblige.







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