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    okay, i haven't been in this business for that long. about a year. but i remember it always being busy, through spring and summer, and then november hit and it sucks more ass than ever now. it's just not picking up! guys are so unwilling to buy a dance if you don't promise extras, or there are zero guys in the club. everything has changed. i have heard girls say that the economy is bad and strippers aren't anything special anymore because there's so many of them, and girls are doing more extras because its the only way to make money. well my question is, in your opinion, do you think the strip club industry will continue to go downhill or will it ever get better? is it just the economy, or is it the industry? i enjoyed dancing when i could leave with more than $80 (the same amount i could make in tips as a waitress), and i would start stripping again if the income was worth it. it seems like the industry is at an all-time low right now. is this just a normal cycle?
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    Hell ya the money is going to get better. As soon as Bush is out of office and Hillary is in.



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    January is a normal slow period in the business.

    It'll pick up soon.

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    Well from all the threads Ive read about the industry changing it will continue to change. It will just change in a different direction. However, there has been a slow decline doesnt mean that there isnt money to be made.

    There is just a normal cycle for the year. Some clubs thrive and do the best during summer or when ever the better season is. Ive only been officially back for like a year and a half but I think part of what youre talking about is just money season changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    January is a normal slow period in the business.

    It'll pick up soon.
    It better pick up really soon...I don't have much time left!

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    It cycles....it's been low before...and who knows, it could pick back up again....this time of year does suck though, everywhere. I'm doing okay at my club, but not the greatest I ever have for sure.

    My feelings though? If you are not making enough money, don't do it. No matter what the reason, slow season, slow year, bad hustle, etc....if you aren't surving, then it's time to move on....otherwise just ride it out for a while.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticEngineer View Post
    My feelings though? If you are not making enough money, don't do it. No matter what the reason, slow season, slow year, bad hustle, etc....if you aren't surving, then it's time to move on....otherwise just ride it out for a while.
    I'm surviving, but spoiled...it's a Phoenix thing!!! I just want my good nights every night to come back!!

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    This is why it is always a good thing to be open to travelling as it might be slow in your part of the country yet "going off" in another part of the country. I know this is how it works here in Australia generally.


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    It might also be the post Christmas blahs...everyone has recieved their credit card statements and realized they've put themselves in debt more than they anticipated...I have relatives that are still paying off Christmas from 3 years ago

    In the tourism industry November, January, and February are dead months and tourism doesn't usually pick up until Spring Break...then it is the money season until November rolls around again.

    I think this translates into most of the entertainment industry as well.

    Hope this gives hope

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    ^^^usually travel season is bad for us, but this time of year is high season in the caribbean anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by sophiemarie View Post
    Hell ya the money is going to get better. As soon as Bush is out of office and Hillary is in.
    LOL! While I agree that Bush's shitty policies have certainly contributed to the current ongoing shitty state of our economy, I am quite sure that our customers won't magically start throwing more money around the instant he is out and/or Hillary gets in. IF she gets in. It will be interesting to see what happens for us with the new president though, because I do believe that many people tend to get a little euphoric and filled with hope when a bad president is finally out of office - which means the economy overall might see a little push in the right direction. The economy is, after all, largely controlled by the emotions, perceptions and confidence (or lack thereof) of the people.

    Sorry for the little bit of political talk (I tried to keep it light anyway) but it does affect us quite directly and seriously.



    Yes, it will get better. It has picked up for me already, first week of January was crap, but it's gotten busier now. It gradually gets better as we get further into the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sophiemarie View Post
    Hell ya the money is going to get better. As soon as Bush is out of office and Hillary is in.
    RIGHT ON!!!

    It could be low because of the seasons. I see that your are in Michigan. It might be slow because of the weather. When I worked in Phoenix It was soooo bad in the summer. It would be like 107 degrees out. On fri/sat nights the club would be half fulll. Then in the winter it would be packed on a fri/sat night. That is just the way it is.

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    I have had this discussion with many people. Seems like the stripping business goes through cycles just like any other business. They are usually cyclic swings with the economy. Hopefully its it is the holiday season and the january blahs, and it will pick up again.

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    This actually came up alot this past week. Its been horrible. Before christmas i was making bank... for a male dancer. Now... im thinking about taking time off or going back to a 9/5 wich is steady pay... i thought it was just me in a slump but its all the dancers in the club. There just aren't any customers tipping out or getting privates. Everyone comes in to get a few drinks, but ignoring dancers. If thats the case GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO DRINK. Im not a fan of giving out free shows on stage especially on non cover nights. Blah, bad start to a good year.

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    Michigan clubs have really going down hill and I don't see them getting any better. The stress of trying to make decent money combined with avoiding pushy customers finally just got to me and I'm waitressing right now while I look for a full time position in the field I studied. I'm pretty sure I would still be dancing if I lived somewhere else.

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    Gosh i hope it's just a 'thing.'

    I am glad i danced when i did and got out...clubs around here are so different, slow, and just not the same as it all was.

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    Attempting to leave political commentary aside, the fact is that January 15th is a quarterly due date for estimated taxes ... which affects the 'spare cash' available for lots of businessmen. Also, the first paycheck in January for upper middle class customers (who earn more than the $90k annual limit ... raised to $98k this year) means the resumptions of Social Security tax withholding ... which further affects the 'spare cash' available for lots of customers. Add to that leftover Christmas credit card bills, seasonal heating bills etc., and January is virtually guaranteed to be slow in all cities that didn't participate in huge banking / investment industry end of year bonuses or winter tourism.

    On a longer term scale, the exotic dancing business as 'entertainment' has been the steady victim of competition from adult websites, adult webcams, pay per view adult movies, phone sex etc. Nothing is going to reverse this trend.

    Also on a longer term scale, while most customer paychecks have been 'stagnant', the US consumer inflation rate + debt service interest rates re mortgages and credit cards + health costs + local tax rates etc. have steadily been diverting more and more customer dollars towards these 'essentials'. This obviously leaves fewer and fewer dollars for customers to spend at their 'discretion' on luxuries like strip clubs instead of on those essentials.

    This also prompts such customers to demand more 'extras' in return for spending their hard earned dollars in clubs as they perceive that their remaining discretionary dollars have somehow become more valuable since they have become more scarce (not true economically but true psychologically). Because many dancers must maintain their earnings levels, they agree to provide those 'extras' that customers are now routinely seeking. This of course makes it much more difficult for other dancers who are not willing to provide extras to attract customer money.

    That situation is further exacerbated by the growth of strip club customer review websites, which now makes it possible for club customers to determine in advance which dancers in a given club are likely to provide 'extras' vs which ones are not (based on comments posted by other customers ) WITHOUT first having to buy any private dances to find out for themselves. The advent of customer review websites, thus the ability for new club customers to avoid spending money on lap dances from a variety of dancers in order to determine for themselves which girls will provide high contact / 'extras' and which ones won't, has IMHO made the largest negative impact of anything on the current earnings potential of 'clean' dancers working in 'not so clean' clubs where other girls do offer high contact / 'extras'. Thus 'clean' dancers now are often immediately turned down re offers for private dances by new club customers in favor of other dancers that the strip club review website said were more likely to provide high contact / 'extras'.

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    i really hope it gets better. i've been waiting since last summer. yesterday i walked away from my shift as the "top earner"... out of 12 girls. i made a wopping 120 bucks. something is pretty wrong with that. i remember when a NORMAL shift for me was 300 bucks. 500+ was a great shift and anything under 200 was horrible. now i'm happy when i get over 100.

    *sigh*

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    You ask a difficult question because so much of the differences in the industry are regional...everything from what you wear, to the customer base to the style of hustle.

    It is hard to judge general trends based just on one year. Whether you are making a ton of money or practically nothing. If you have the freedom, it would be wise to check out greener pastures now that you are feeling down to help bring your mood back up.

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    all I can say is GOD I hope so. I'm only in the club one or two days a week lately....It's been a few weeks since I broke the $300 mark in the club. Just a cpl months ago I was easily making over $500 most days(yes...thats DAYS..not even nights)....it's been pretty slow since about Thanksgiving. This time of yr always sucks ass so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. and hoping I'll bank in Key West in Feb(not that seeing you girls wont make the trip worthwhile either way!! )
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    in her case im not sure its the season though. noctina, ur in michigan right? id bet its because even more people have lost or are losing their jobs.Ford is going bankrupt and has lay off a ton of people which is efected the whole state. Their families and people who work with Ford in some capacity. michigan has the highest rates of unemployment in the country right now. id say its nearly impossible to make money in michigan right now. the only people who stay in michigan HAVE to because of family, but people are making a mad dash out of that state. its a good time to buy a house - so many people cant afford their homes that they are lowering the prices just to get rid of them. noctina - can u travel? it would be worth it for you to go to chicago for a weekend its not that far away. or try crossing over to windsor Although id say chicago over windsor cause windsor has lost alot of detroits buissness cause everyone is broke. nope id say its not getting better anytime soon in that area. ive tripled or quadrupled my money since ive left

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    I honestly think that strip clubs have hit the all time high in the 80's!

    I don't think it will get back to that again...it's all so very different now.

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    noctina where r u working now

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    As long as all the girls keep acting like whores with out common sense instead of beautiful women who artistcally entertain then NO the money will never pick up and since that is what the men are use too that is what they want now .....we have trained them to not respect us and that we will bend the rules for some extra cash so you have no one to blame but yourself . Maybe someday when all the clubs have been shut down for this behavior and they are just a memory someone will start all over again and for awhile dancers can respectfully earn a living until everyone fucks it up again . I don;t blame the extra girls I blame society .
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    ^^^ just wait until the next wave of 'adult technology' really takes off - ...

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