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    i searched this but didn't find any threads that actually answered my question.

    i wanna take some diet pills to help me out with my weight loss (i eat very well and work out at the gym 4-6 times a week). someone recommended a product called Xenical.

    i've done a lot of research, got a leaflet from the pharmacy and talked to them about it. i know that it basically makes you shit oil and has a few unpleasant side effects, but whatever.

    everything i've read says that Xenical should be used for people with a BMI of 27+. i have a BMI of 21. the ladies at the pharmacy asked about my diet and exercise, and when i said i eat well and work out often, they said they doubt that taking Xenical will really give me any weight loss results at all.

    so what i wanna know, is if anyone who is around my size (bigger, but not clinically obese. i'm 5'9" and 136lb) has taken Xenical and seen results? can it work for people who aren't obese?

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    you don't strike me as the type/size to be in the indicated group for this.

    why not go to the supplements store and speak to them about bodybuilding fat burners rather than this drug.

    it has some pretty ordinary side effects. my nail tech took it (but she is a unit) and she hated the side effects and it didn't really do squat diddly.

    21 is a pretty nice BMI ya know, especially if you are carrying any muscle from your gym work

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    Ok, I am setting myself up to get flamed but I used it for awhile. I ordered from an online site and "fibbed" about my height/weight. I think I claimed 5'1 and 175lbs Anyway, I liked it when I was training to compete but still wanted to cheat a little. It will help you shed a "few" pounds but if you eat anything super greasy it will come straight out your butt within an hour. Looks/smells like bacon grease.... it's pretty rank. In the US they are going to legalize it for OTC in a milder potentcy. I think it is OTC in Zealand?




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    it's OTC in australia. the ladies at the pharmacy looked reluctant to sell it to me but i just fibbed and said i used to be much bigger and want to use it for weight management. they said i could have it if i want, but they don't recommend it.

    i'm taking 'fat blaster' weight loss supplements, but i want something a little bit stronger. i'm really unsure as to whether i should try xenical or not :/

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    Xenical is meant to be taken by people who have been clinically diagnosed as Obese or Morbidly Obese. You are no where near either of those!!!!!!!!!!! I have seen people who are majorly overweight take it and after a month they give it up because they don't get results (Of course I'm sure their eating and exercise was still pretty crappy). Besides that it is MEGA expensive and not covered by any insurance plans (in Canada) without strict review and tons of paperwork.

    You REALLY don't need to take this Darcy, just be patient and keep up with your training and eating plan. It will take time and hard work to get where you want to be (Although as you've heard many times I think you are absolutely Gorgeous and I look up to you!!!! I wish I could look like you do!!!!), so just stick it out. Diet pills are all the same (even prescription) they won't make a huge difference in someone like yourself who is already within their 'normal' weight range.

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    If you want significant effects on a short-term basis you may want to consider Clenbuterol. You cannot take this long-term, though, as it stops being effective after about three weeks of continued use, and you'll have to find a doctor willing to prescribe it.

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    Reading up on Clenbuterol now. seems like it'd be hard to get, but i like the sound of it. apparently it's used by a lot of celebs to lose weight? interesting.

    i'm going to try to find some of this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    Reading up on Clenbuterol now. seems like it'd be hard to get, but i like the sound of it. apparently it's used by a lot of celebs to lose weight? interesting.

    i'm going to try to find some of this stuff.

    Ive heard of Clenbuterol too. It only seems bad if you take it forever like Nicole Richie. If you find it shoot let me know. I personally try to avoid diet pills but I know these work at least. They might be worth taking for that short time.
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    I used a product called Clenbutrx by VPX...I believe it was a derivitive of clenbuterol...it worked better then anything else I've ever used....I'd kill to find it again

    I think clenbuterol is illegal in the US...so I'd have no idea where to get it here
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    i take clenbuterol, it works if you cycle it properly (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off) and i haven't had any nasty side effects
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    Where did you get it? Im guessing it might be legal where you are then.
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    i got online :p i'm choosing to not look up the legal status, i'm happier that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by cally_rose View Post
    i got online :p i'm choosing to not look up the legal status, i'm happier that way
    where did you buy it online? did u lose a lot of weight on clenbuterol?

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    i lost 20lbs in 2 2 week cycles (so 2 months), the website i got it from is www.buysteroidscheap.com
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    darcy... this is where i get my supplements: protein, fat burners etc. when i need them.

    they are cheaper than most other places and will courier/mail it to you. these guys have access to all brands and are very helpful in trying to find things that might not be that easy to get.

    i have a feeling that clenbuterol is restricted here...

    anyways: http://www.adastreet.com.au/

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    according to wiki, clenbuterol is only legal for use in treating asthma in horses. hah.

    also according to wiki, it's very easy to purchase online.

    i will now make it my mission to find and buy it!

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    it seems that ships to all parts of the world. a 100 pill bottle of clen isn't too expensive... maybe i'll order it.

    i wonder if i could get in trouble for that?

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    from what i can tell, clen is "not approved" for human use in australia, and banned from sporting events... but i can't see anywhere that says it's actually illegal to possess it.

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    I guess my thought here is, what exactly do you want the pills to accomplish? Do you need something that kills your appetite, or do you want something to speed up your metabolism, or what?

    I've taken Hoodia and it does in fact work to kill the appetite. Another thing you can try (which IS legal to buy) is Vasopro (which is a bronchial dilator meant for asthmatics). It has 25mg of ephedrine and if you take it with a caffeine tablet (which you can find anywhere), it's essentially equivalent to a serving of Hydroxycut prior to the removal of ephedra (only ephedrine is the synthetic, better-controlled version). I've taken it and as long as I kept an eye on my heart rate, I was fine. I will say that the additional "fresh air" feeling of having my bronchial tubes dilated was quite refreshing.

    One thing you could also try is carb-restricting. Bump your carbs down to about 50 a day and you will see the fat drop off in a hurry. Just make sure that when you reach your goals and want to add carbs back in, that you do it gradually over a few weeks so as not to have a rebound effect.

    I'll take one for the team and make the obligatory caution:

    1. Diet pills aren't meant for long-term use

    2. When you stop using them, you may very well gain the weight back + more

    3. As much as everyone would dearly love for it to not be the case, losing weight in such a way that it will stay off takes a gradual and long-term approach. You'll see the same results and have a lot better shot at maintaining them if you stick to a routine that allows you to lose a half pound to a pound a week. In a couple months, you'd see significant improvement.

    Of course we all know that. And I can damn well relate to working out 4-6 days a week and still not seeing significant results (since I'm doing that right now). But looking at my friend Annie, who has like 13% body fat and is totally ripped (but in a feminine way, not in a Chyna WWE way), I can see that commitment and consistency are the keys. But if there were something safe that would speed up the process a little...

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    i know exactly what you mean. i completely understand that nothing is going to be a 'miracle drug' that will magically make me lose weight long term. i'm just looking for something that i can use in conjuction with my strict diet and exercise routine to assist me.

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    Well, you could give the Vasopro and caffeine a try (assuming you don't have heart problems or high blood pressure or any other contraindicators that would prevent you from using it). The nice thing about it is that it's really pretty cheap. It used to be a lot cheaper before the ephedrine restrictions, but it's still quite inexpensive. For instance, here is a site where you can get 48 tablets for $9.50 US. Find a bottle of 200mg caffeine tablets, that'll be another $6-7. I'd suggest splitting each of the tablets in half (both caffeine and Vasopro) and taking one in the morning and one in the mid-afternoon). That would give you the same effect as 3 old-style Hydroxycut pills (which was one serving size). Except that instead of being $54 for a 30-day supply, you'll pay $17 for a 48-day supply. Pretty good deal.

    I've used it (carefully) and it does work.

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    Just throwing my hat into the ring, but considering the high amount of cardio you do, wouldn't it be wiser to look into something that raises your core temperature and induces your metabolism? Someone can correct me on this, but my understanding is that "diet pills" when you're that active tend to prey on muscle.

    Anyways, I use Water Loss, and Xanadrin NRG.
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    There have been studies that show that when ephedra is used with caffeine (and aspirin) it actually helps preserve muscle. Otherwise, there's a product called Muscle Armor by EAS that's supposed to help prevent muscle catabolization.

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    thermogenic fat burners, you mean? they're good in the short term but then you get tolerant just like anything else. most of them contain caffeine or ephedrine

    i wouldn't try squeaking steroids past Aust customs. find someone who already has them here if you *must* have them... or try something else. honestly, the guy at Ada St rocks (phone him up and ask what girls like you should have)

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    bwahaha. guess who's getting some clenbuterol tomorrow

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