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    a fellow dancer told me last night that the reason she feels she doesn't get a lot of stage tips is because a customer told her that she was physically "perfect". she's very thin, lean, and limber, with a beautiful face and attitude about her work. the customer proceeded to tell her that the reason why another dancer (one who has a large butt and cellulite and does a very mediocre stage show) gets more tips onstage is because she has visible imperfections--and that men love that.

    is that true? of course, there are exceptions to everything. i'm talking about male customers in general.

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    6 i have -never- met a girl who was so beautiful that guys didn't tip her well. every "perfect 10" i've ever known has banked. *shrug*

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    She might be at the wrong club. There are different looks that customers like. If she was working at a club that has lots of "girl next door" types and she looks super model glamorous, then the guys might be put off by her looks as being out of the norm.

    It sounds kind of fishy to me, though.


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    If she has a good attitude and doesnt come across as a prima donna because of her looks, she should be doing fine. I dont know any custies who seek out imperfections in a dancer. I do know this, though. Id rather hang out and spend money on a gal who is slightly less than perfect than on a "perfect" dancer with an attitude who thinks I should be grateful she allows me to spend money on her

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    I am going to agree. There seem to be alot of wrong assumptions by customers about "beautiful" "perfect" looking girls.

    * That they make the most money anyway and do it so easilly/ that they get everything handed to them on a plate in life so why bother
    * That they're too intimadating to approach
    * That they will be stuck-up and bitchy
    * That they will be overly obsessed with beauty and looking good and quite boring once aproached
    * That they wont be interested in an average or below average looking customer
    * That in real life they would never speak to any man who wasnt equal in terms of looks etc so obviously when they do inside a strip club they are purely just gold digging
    and so on...

    IMO customers often prefur the more "girl next door" types as the reality for them is that in "RL" these are the sorts of girls they could well get to know and theyre less scared of approaching because of that. of course all customers are different, but these are things Ive heard more than once.
    I also agree that it may vary from club to club.

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    Threre was a thread in blue that talked about this. I tried the search engine but couldnt find it. Anyways I do recall that it was basically a draw. Many of the guys admitted avoiding the really hot model types because they found those dancers to be bitches and stuck up. OTOH, other guys disagreed and said they honed in on the hottest dancers at the club regardless of their attitudes. I recall the discussion being pretty engaging. For me, attitude plays a big part. Obviously, in a perfect world, a gorgeous model type with an awesome personality and work ethic would be the ultimate but it rarely works out that way in my experience.

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    Cellulite's an imperfection? Well hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    Cellulite's an imperfection? Well hell.

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    I read a short story once in which a guy went into raptures over the beauty of cellulite.

    I find it hard to believe that customers aren't tipping her because she's too pretty. I find it more likely that one customer was trying to flatter her.
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    I've had lots of guys say to me they don't want a dance b/c I'm too perfect. I think it's just another excuse. I don't act like a bitch, i'm very "real", so I think it's a cop out. w/ever, next!

    As to stage tips, maybe the other dancer is a better performer.

    It's lapdances and rooms that make you the most almost everywhere, not stage, so it's not that important. If the less pretty girl is doing better in this catagory, maybe she's a better saleswoman as well.

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    In spite of what I may have told Jenny in the past, I do admire the efficiency of a conveyor belt, bar code dancer mentality. So Lola, when those guys say that you are too perfect, do you truly just send them packing or do you try to finagle at least a bit of earnings from them? It seems to me that if you spent some time talking to them or at least contemplating what they said, there should have been a reciprocal payment for your time and effort.

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    I have never seen a girl who was too perfect to get tipped. That's just stupid. She doesn't get tipped because of her attitude - obviously if she thinks she's that perfect she has a shit attitude. Guys don't like bitches like that, no matter how "perfect" they look.

    The girl with the big ass, cellulite and mediocre dance probably gets tipped because she looks more fun.


    I HAVE seen times where guys were so turned off / intimidated by the really hot girl that they wouldn't approach her. Sometimes a really superhot girl will find it hard to make much money at all in certain clubs because the overwhelming majority of customers there are too "lowkey" for that. The D guys don't go for A women theory. But still, even in those cases, the superhottie will still get some tips on stage!

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    B, even an A guy can get turned off by an A dancer with an attitude. Im at best a C guy looks wise but I have at least B money. But if a hot model type with a prima donna attitude wants my money she will have to adjust her approach pretty damn quick. Otherwise the B dancers are gonna bank instead of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    B, even an A guy can get turned off by an A dancer with an attitude.
    Of course FBR, but it's much more likely to happen with a D guy, even if the dancer doesn't have bad attitude because the guys just THINK she will and they approach her with that prejudice, which of course influences the way she'll respond to them. That's why it's often hard for A girls to make money in C or D clubs. A/B guys can be much more understanding of the A/B girl's attitude/position.

    If you suspect a girl is gonna be a snotty bitch before you've even given her a chance, you'll project that and, whether or not you intend to or even realize you're doing it, YOUR attitude is often what causes her to react poorly to you.

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    i guess what it all comes down to is a customer's personal preferences. or maybe just perceptions. when the dancer told me that the reason she thought the dancer with the large ass got more tips i told her i thought that dancer didn't get any more tips than she did.

    maybe we are all harder on ourselves to some degree than to others.

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    In the redneck club I am in, more of the less then A girls will do better on stage because of the whole D guys don't go for A girls...
    I am the only one with long gowns, I always try to put on a show on stage, rather then do the on all 4's ass shake, this works against me sometimes, I think they feel I will be stuck up, untill I talk to them...

    I do have days I make alot less on stage, but once I get down and start talking and mingling, thats when I will start getting dances..

    I think some guys are intimidated by the stage in general, so when a girl next door is up there they feel its easier for them to go up and tip...
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    The hotter you are the nicer you have to be, I think. You have to smile and encourage people to come to you, and same when you go to them. And really, same deal with the other dancers.

    Mediocre girls can get away with worse attitudes in general, I think.
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    I believe imperfections should be hidden in a strip club. The illusion that they don't exist in that world is what many many men want to go there for, and get away from is what i still believe.

    Perfect does not exist. We all know this. But a sexy slutty acting woman does! And if she has no imperfections, the better.

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    No, we prefer perfection, but if that perfection comes with a bad attitude, then we are willing to accept some imperfections.

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    You gotta remember here folks, a lot of men who go to SC's have been having to settle for the shit end of the dating pool their whole lives (often their own fault, but thats for another rant), so it's certainly plausible that they come into the club, they carry in that mindset with them. And I don't even mean the ones coming in to "reject" hot dancers. I mean, we find comfort in what we're familiar with don't we?

    Personally, I like the attractive yet attainable type of dancer. She carries a sense of humility the bombshell often doesn't have. And its not so much that the bombshells act bitchy, I just think that for a lot of them, feigning interest in a less attractive guy isn't their strong suit, since its something they don't have to resign themselves to in real life.

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    No, we prefer perfection, but if that perfection comes with a bad attitude, then we are willing to accept some imperfections.
    Well, one could say a bad attitude constitutes an imperfection in itself.
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    I think also OTC bombshells vs girl next door types vs totally unattractive girls (I really hate using these terms as I think were all beautiful in our own right plus Im using steriotypes which i also hate!) have totally different experiencies too. Its a fact that people do get treated differently because of how they look.
    Those considered beautiful never have to approach men OTC really and everywhere they go they get complimets and smiles etc so inside a strip club its a totally differnt for them anwhen they are expected to approach men and make the first move. They lack the skills to do so as its a new strange thing. I know its steriotypical but those viewed as unattractive often have the killer outgoing personalities cos they dont get special treatment in life for being pretty and often dont get noticed by men otherwise so they have a well developed skill to get attention and keep it. Girl next door types are somewhere between the two. They know they're attractive, but not stunning. They do have to rely somewhat on their personality OTC to get the goods. They are used to approaching men because their real life experience is somewhere between the other too groups so they win basically. Im not suggesting that beautiful girls have no personality, just that they often lack the back ground experience when it comes to approaching men in strip clubs. Not suggesting that everyone fits my steriotypes either!
    Thats just my theory anyway.


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    You gotta remember here folks, a lot of men who go to SC's have been having to settle for the shit end of the dating pool their whole lives (often their own fault, but thats for another rant), so it's certainly plausible that they come into the club, they carry in that mindset with them. And I don't even mean the ones coming in to "reject" hot dancers. I mean, we find comfort in what we're familiar with don't we?

    Personally, I like the attractive yet attainable type of dancer. She carries a sense of humility the bombshell often doesn't have. And its not so much that the bombshells act bitchy, I just think that for a lot of them, feigning interest in a less attractive guy isn't their strong suit, since its something they don't have to resign themselves to in real life.


    Well, one could say a bad attitude constitutes an imperfection in itself.
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    Looks don't get my money, a good attitude does.

    Looks may catch my eye, but what keeps my attention is personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    I am going to agree. There seem to be alot of wrong assumptions by customers about "beautiful" "perfect" looking girls.

    * That they make the most money anyway and do it so easilly/ that they get everything handed to them on a plate in life so why bother
    * That they're too intimadating to approach
    * That they will be stuck-up and bitchy
    * That they will be overly obsessed with beauty and looking good and quite boring once aproached
    * That they wont be interested in an average or below average looking customer
    * That in real life they would never speak to any man who wasnt equal in terms of looks etc so obviously when they do inside a strip club they are purely just gold digging
    and so on...

    IMO customers often prefur the more "girl next door" types as the reality for them is that in "RL" these are the sorts of girls they could well get to know and theyre less scared of approaching because of that. of course all customers are different, but these are things Ive heard more than once.
    I also agree that it may vary from club to club.
    She is 100% right, at least for Australia anyway.

    I prefer looking at perfect 10 models on stage, but I would never get a VIP dance with one of them. I'd much prefer to get a private dance with someone I believe I could realisitcally get in real life. I especially hate the stereotypical perfect 10 model, the blonde, tall, long legs, big boobs, lots of make-up and really prissy type of chick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fox View Post
    She is 100% right, at least for Australia anyway.

    I prefer looking at perfect 10 models on stage, but I would never get a VIP dance with one of them. I'd much prefer to get a private dance with someone I believe I could realisitcally get in real life. I especially hate the stereotypical perfect 10 model, the blonde, tall, long legs, big boobs, lots of make-up and really prissy type of chick.
    What about a short, brunette, natural, little make-up and a tomboy attidude especially when it comes to sports?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana View Post
    What about a short, brunette, natural, little make-up and a tomboy attidude especially when it comes to sports?!

    ROFL! J/K!
    thats awesome.

    send her right over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fox View Post
    She is 100% right, at least for Australia anyway.

    I prefer looking at perfect 10 models on stage, but I would never get a VIP dance with one of them. I'd much prefer to get a private dance with someone I believe I could realisitcally get in real life. I especially hate the stereotypical perfect 10 model, the blonde, tall, long legs, big boobs, lots of make-up and really prissy type of chick.
    Ok I don't get this!! Im not arguing or criticising I just truly don't get it.
    Why do men wanna pay for the type of woman that they could possibly get in real life? Why don't you just go out and get that type of woman instead of coming into the SC?

    Since the SC experience is a fantasy why not go all out and have a fantasy with the type of woman who you know you could not get in real life?

    It's so annoying, I take good care of myself - healthy lifestyle, healthy eating, exercise, very well groomed and I go to work expecting to make money which I do but I'd like to make more. I am very friendly and personable and I get told the other night that he is too intimidated to get a dance with me WTF!!
    Then I see girls who don't even make that much effort - with their dress, grooming and some are just plain gross and guys get dances with them.

    I have been to a SC as a customer and I made sure I picked out the perfect 10, I would not have wasted my money on anything less.

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