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    Default Flag ban an 'insult' to Aussies

    I thought this was pretty funny. The Australian Flag as "gang colours"

    BTW - The Big Day Out (if you are unfamiliar with it) website

    The BDO's press release in regards to this is (here). I still think it is ridiculous.

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21095538-2,00.html

    BIG Day Out organisers face a public backlash after the New South Wales Premier predicted mass displays of red, white, and blue in defiance of a ban on the Australian flag at this Thursday's event.


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    Default Re: Flag ban an 'insult' to Aussies

    i tend to agree with the prime minister on this one:

    "Prime Minister John Howard has labelled as stupid and offensive a push to prevent Australian flags being taken into a youth music festival in Sydney".

    how far will this crap go?

    if people don't like living the australian way, they should just go somewhere else.

    gang, my ass.

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    Default Re: Flag ban an 'insult' to Aussies

    ^^^ and yes there was a comma there... tee hee

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    that's rediculous! Next the cross will be a gang sign.... I wonder how that'd go over

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    What are the background events that they are talking about?
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    Default Re: Flag ban an 'insult' to Aussies

    racial issues last year at a beach that is/was predominantly white trash joined to a predominantly lebanese area by a bridge. the lebanese kids crossed over one day to make a point and shit went crazy.

    both sides are very militant in their position and it went pear-shaped very quickly.

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    lmfao. i havent heard about this yet.


    they should just take in kiwi flags instead

    its a bit shit, but at the same time, who the hell would wanna take a flag to a music festivle anyways? weird. and as much as a love aussie, it is a racist country, displaying an aussie flag in a place like sydney ( a high pop of international residents) it is like giving someone the finger. its a too nationalistic, and it does come across as racist.

    if it helps keep the peace, its not a big ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidnz View Post
    lmfao. i havent heard about this yet.


    they should just take in kiwi flags instead

    its a bit shit, but at the same time, who the hell would wanna take a flag to a music festivle anyways? weird. and as much as a love aussie, it is a racist country, displaying an aussie flag in a place like sydney ( a high pop of international residents) it is like giving someone the finger. its a too nationalistic, and it does come across as racist.

    if it helps keep the peace, its not a big ask.
    It is true that in some contexts a national flag has meaning beyond nationalism - as we're all well aware. However, the other side is essentially asking the average citizen of Australia to "surrender" the flag as a symbol to racism - and many people may not be ready to do that.
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    Im with the BDO on this one. Im not a fan of banning stuff, but the flag shit has become ridiculous. The BDO is just trying to remain trouble free thats all. Riots can start so easilly in even smaller situations than the Big day out - Ive even been arrested for affray myself, lol!
    Sydney has had a fair amount of racial tension in the last 12 months and the wearing of the Aussie flag 'superhero" style is unnessesary. Unfortunatly it has become a racist thing adopted by racists. I do think this should be "reclaimed" but the BDO is not the place to try and solve racial tension.

    Oh and the "If you dont like it leave" comment is sort of irrelevant and out of place since no-one complaining about the country or the flag in the first place.

    Unless of course youre suggesting that if i dont like racism i should leave?
    Last edited by aussiepunkshocker; 01-21-2007 at 10:05 PM.

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    ^^^ fully.

    what she said

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    I totally agree with you. I saw people yesterday draped in Aussie flags - I have never seen people do this at the Big Day out before. Its a music event not some international sporting event where you have a team to support.
    I wodered what would happen if people started turning up wearing other flags.
    Umm, if you dont mind me saying Kiwis would cop alot of shit so would Poms - geezzz, wed just hear about the cricket all day too, and Amercians would get shit thrown at them and possibly worse. canadians would probably be ok and South Africans its hard to say... people wearing The Confederate Flag and of course the Eureka flag would probably be regarded as heros. Probably no-one would recognise too many other flags though


    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidnz View Post
    lmfao. i havent heard about this yet.


    they should just take in kiwi flags instead

    its a bit shit, but at the same time, who the hell would wanna take a flag to a music festivle anyways? weird. and as much as a love aussie, it is a racist country, displaying an aussie flag in a place like sydney ( a high pop of international residents) it is like giving someone the finger. its a too nationalistic, and it does come across as racist.

    if it helps keep the peace, its not a big ask.
    Last edited by aussiepunkshocker; 01-21-2007 at 10:06 PM. Reason: To add something.

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    lol of course the kiwi flag would get shit!! but at least its simillar enough it wouldnt be banned haha

    yeah, there seems to be a changing shift in guys displaying the flag out of pride for the country, and out of spite from those not from here.

    ive had cunts at work claim they cant understand me, and i should go back where i came from (my accent i thought was always reasonable neutral, except for dance and trance hah) when i tell them i was BORN in aussie, they change their tune. its fucked up.

    its like aussies forget where their ancestary came from.....

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    I know the Aussie / Kiwi thing exists, but I didnt realise people would actually tell you to go home! thats just stupid, lol! I cant recall being told that yet although people often tell me that England is so full of black people they can understand why I left. (For anyone who doesnt know I am half black, although its not obvious to most people, lol.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    I know the Aussie / Kiwi thing exists, but I didnt realise people would actually tell you to go home! thats just stupid, lol! I cant recall being told that yet although people often tell me that England is so full of black people they can understand why I left. (For anyone who doesnt know I am half black, although its not obvious to most people, lol.)

    omfg. people say that?!?!

    i never noticed racism till i moved here. sure theres always something racially motivated back home too, but its usually just maories trying to claim more land or beaches via peaceful protests.

    but i never seen white vs everyone else as much as here. argh! its a big world out there!

    *reaches for the cotton wool*

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    On one level i agree with the BDO. In that all should be unified. People are people.
    On the other hand, why not display the national flag? All 'immigrants' are just that. They are now Australian, and they also stand under that flag. If they can't accept that, they shouldn't be there. It is Australia.
    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss View Post
    On one level i agree with the BDO. In that all should be unified. People are people.
    On the other hand, why not display the national flag? All 'immigrants' are just that. They are now Australian, and they also stand under that flag. If they can't accept that, they shouldn't be there. It is Australia.
    Just my opinion.
    your missing the point.

    its that the white kids are trying to display the flag as if it is theirs, and not anyone elses. its not about not accepting the aussie flag, its sbout being told they dont deserve to accept it etc.

    um, and just cos you move to another country, you shouldnt have to give up your pride in your heratige and cultural background.

    its like all these chinese kids calling themselves john. it pisses me off. 'no babe, thats not your name, whats your chinese name' ill accept you as the person you are that stands before me, not what some racist aussie tells you you have to be in order to be accepted.

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    Default Re: Flag ban an 'insult' to Aussies

    banning the national flag of a country is oppressive.

    (especially given what day it is on Friday)

    we need to stop throwing rhetoric at the problem and start throwing lamb at it.

    http://www.votelamb.com.au/

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    I'm not syaing anyone should forget thier cultural heritage. I'm saying that when they have Australian citizenship, and they live in Australia, they are Australian. Thier cultural heritage is just that...thier heritage.
    Alot of Australia is racist, but as long as people fight (and entertain) this stupidity, it will continue.

    As for people changing thier names to sound english, I'd like to give them the credit that they themselves have chosen this, for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    banning the national flag of a country is oppressive.

    (especially given what day it is on Friday)

    we need to stop throwing rhetoric at the problem and start throwing lamb at it.

    http://www.votelamb.com.au/
    Very good point, i forgot *shame* The BDO is on AUSTRALIA DAY!!! Fly the flag !!!!!
    This whole issue is stupid, and the organizers are idiots.
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    Umm, who said anything about immigrants not accepting the Aussie flag? I think the point is that in recent times its white Australians using the flag to represent white Australia and basically saying anyone who lives here and is not of white stock shoudnt be here and shouldnt have rights to the flag.



    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss View Post
    On one level i agree with the BDO. In that all should be unified. People are people.
    On the other hand, why not display the national flag? All 'immigrants' are just that. They are now Australian, and they also stand under that flag. If they can't accept that, they shouldn't be there. It is Australia.
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
    banning the national flag of a country is oppressive.

    (especially given what day it is on Friday)

    we need to stop throwing rhetoric at the problem and start throwing lamb at it.

    rofl that site is great. i got 2/10 on unaustralian test, and 7/10 second time around. and isnt nz mocked for all the sheep, yet aussie is claiming the lamb is theirs. right... lol good stuff tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    Umm, who said anything about immigrants not accepting the Aussie flag? I think the point is that in recent times its white Australians using the flag to represent white Australia and basically saying anyone who lives here and is not of white stock shoudnt be here and shouldnt have rights to the flag.
    MermaidNZ said it was like giving "people not from here" the finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss View Post
    MermaidNZ said it was like giving "people not from here" the finger.
    um. imo it is.

    its liek saying "this is our flag, you dont deserve to claim it as your own"


    did you read the freaking thread?!

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    I disagree considering. Racial tension, alcohol, young people, drugs, big crowds, heat, silly misunderstandings...
    Really its unfortunate that the Australia Day bdo is in Sydney and not somewhere else where there is less tension currently cos it wouldnt be an issue in the first place.
    I hope it all goes well regardless.


    Personally I think this is a job for the fashion police, wearing flags looks silly where the hell are they when they're needed?! I think the fashion police should be at the gates doing makeovers as people rock up. All flags should be replaced with a cardigan draped over the shoulders just like they do on Ricky lake


    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss View Post
    Very good point, i forgot *shame* The BDO is on AUSTRALIA DAY!!! Fly the flag !!!!!
    This whole issue is stupid, and the organizers are idiots.

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    lmfao. you sound like 'one of them' misha

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