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    Not even sure if that's how u spell it. Anyway...my little brother told me yesterday that he hung out with a girl that tried to get him to try it but he told her he wanted to wait till next week. I told him NOT to mess with it. I tried it once when I was 18 and LOVED it and stayed away from it after that. I'm just really scared for him, I've seen those commercials where people say that a loved one of their's died after trying it just once. Does that really happen often? I told him he could have a bad reaction to it and he said, "Well her 2 brothers are major druggies so they know what they're getting". So I said, "Oh, so since they are major druggies they know everything, huh?" I don't know, I've always been over protective with him. I don't know what to tell him and how to get him no to try it. Anybody have a lot of experience with ex?

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    From what I remember, it's rare that people die from actual ecstacy from their first try. The few cases that I've looked into (from my Pharmacology degree) is from side effects such as it making people excessively thirsty, and a girl drank something like 7 pints of water in an hour and died from that. However, you can never ever tell what is in the ecstacy tablet. Often the pill is cut with something horrible, like rat poison or broken glass to make the stomach bleed so it gets into the system faster and you think it's a fantastic pill. I don't care how druggie those 2 brothers are, but they have no idea what they are getting unless they've made it themselves or they test every single pill they get.
    You only need to go to a site like this http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php and you can see how hard it is to know what you're getting. MDMA is the active constituent of ecstacy, everything else that comes up is extra crap to make you react.
    I also know of a girl who took a bad pill and ripped all her teeth out with pliers. So it's not just death to be concerned about.
    I have a report somewhere that I had to write about the side effects of MDMA if you want it.

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    A frends flatmate / girl I used to work with died a couple of years ago from ecstacy - a whole bunch of people who took ecstacy died and / or got admitted to hospital in the same week so it was probably a seriously bad batch. She just couldnt breathe.
    Of course most people use it without any short term problems, its just a few who are unfortunate.
    Make sure your brother knows the risks and what to do and where to go if it isnt good. If he at least knows what to expect too it will be a good thing. Alot of people go a bit crazy popping alot of pills because they dont think the first one is working or because they think 2, 3 or 4 might be evenmore increadible than just one. tell him to at least be sensible and to listen to his own body not other people. Probably if he wants to try it he will, afterall you did (-:

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    and erowid has all safety info, there are safe ways of taking substances. test the pills first.

    aussie- was that the PMA incident? they manafactured a batch with pma instead of mdma?

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    ^^^ I have no idea. PMA and MDMA mean so little to me as I never got into that whole scene - ecstacy wasnt even on the market when I started partying, lol!
    I only knew about it cos I knew the girl and another friend of mine works in a chemist and heard about the other cases.

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    The rolls going around today are NOT like the ones that were around 10+ years ago, trust me. People are making the pills and loading them up with speed so people will jones for more. The speed is what's killing people after their hearts race so much they have heart attacks. Obviously you can't make him not do it as it's his choice. If he's going to do it, I'd have him stay at home and try it first with someone who's done it before. I rarely do it anymore but if I do, I ask exactly what to expect- some are speedy some are smacky some are fake. I usually have someone eat their's about an hour before mine so I can ask what to expect. Not safe I know but it's the safest way I know how to do something dangerous. If those people do it all the time, there's a good chance they are getting good ones.

    Make sure he's got plenty of Gatorade, water, Lifesavers candy or Jolly Ranchers so he doesn't chew his cheeks or tongue from excessive grinding. Also, make sure he's in a positive atmosphere with music he enjoys listening to. All you can do is help make sure his experience is a safe one. If you come down on him for it, he'll most likely do it anyway and hide it from you.

    just my .02.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker View Post
    A frends flatmate / girl I used to work with died a couple of years ago from ecstacy - a whole bunch of people who took ecstacy died and / or got admitted to hospital in the same week so it was probably a seriously bad batch.
    The Red Mitsubishis, most likely. they were bad, fucked a few people up. but even then, i knew a few people who went to hospital because of them and they admitted to their friends that they'd been partying for fucking days beforehand. they were a VERY strong pill and if you took them after having other pills/substances then they could be pretty dangerous.

    anyway, the only time you're in any serious danger of dying from taking one pill, is if you don't know the precautions. if you have acquired your drugs from a trusted source, know the side effects, are aware of the risks and the appropriate actions to take, and are with a group of friends in a comfortable environment then you're probably not going to have any serious problems. if you're out at some club with a bunch of friends all of which have never tried ecstasy before and you're all completely naive to the effects, the precautions (ie. drink lots of water) and the safety tips, and some random stranger offers you some pills and you decide to take them, and you all start freaking out because you didn't know what to expect and don't have someone to tell you it's okay and you get dehydrated, then yeah, it might send you to hospital. it's very rare for someone to just have a "reaction" to it.

    whether you believe it or not, there IS a responsible way to take illicit drugs. as long as you're educated on the subject then you should be alright.

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    I dont agree with the first sentance. The girl I knew fitted the below description. Theres always a risk but I would say it mostly comes down to bad luck.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    anyway, the only time you're in any serious danger of dying from taking one pill, is if you don't know the precautions. if you have acquired your drugs from a trusted source, know the side effects, are aware of the risks and the appropriate actions to take, and are with a group of friends in a comfortable environment then you're probably not going to have any serious problems.

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    well yeah, by serious danger i meant seriously likely danger. it's very unlikely that you'll die if you fit into that description BUT you could just be seriously seriously unlucky.

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    Thanks a ton for your posts and links! I'm going to get him to use those links so he knows (and hopefully gets scared) what he's in for. I mean, yeah, he's going to eventually try it anyway....i may as well try to keep an eye on him. I don't like that he just met this girl and wants to try it with her. I remember when he was curious about weed, I figured I'm his big sister, might as well be the one to get him high first. I know that may sound horrible to some, but you know teenagers are going to do shit anyway.
    And I can't just tell him NOT to try the ecstacy.....he knows I tried it when I was 18 and he is now 18.

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    Yeah actual MDMA is a fine drug, but because we're not all chemist pill-maker people the ingredients of any pill are almost impossible to know. Kind of why shrooms and weed are safer than any chemical things... I have to admit, I rolled on new year's, took one pill and then 3 hours later took another, drank water and gatorade... could have had a very bad experience but I was lucky... what I took was very mellow and might have had some caffeine, but my friend took FOUR and her skin turned all red and blotchy and her eyes were bulging and she was chomping her teeth incessantly.... she bought a pacifier and she still ended up biting through her cheek.

    Egh.... kind of left a bad taste in my mouth about the whole thing, I got really worried. Let him know it's not worth the risk of overhydrating, dehydrating, fucking up his mouth, or getting some nasty shit in the pill.

    I guess if he's gonna try it, it might be best if he has a friend kind of high up on the distribution ladder. Hopefully he'll take something cut with caffeine, and not heroin or meth or cheaper poisons, and advise him to just buy one so he can only take one the first time. and keep gatorades on hand.

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    If he takes the pill, he MIGHT not be the one who dies from poisonous ingredients.
    If he doesn't take it, he DEFINITELY won't be.

    What else is there to discuss? It's not worth the risk.

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    How old is your brother?
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    Her bro's 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    Yeah actual MDMA is a fine drug, but because we're not all chemist pill-maker people the ingredients of any pill are almost impossible to know. Kind of why shrooms and weed are safer than any chemical things... I have to admit, I rolled on new year's, took one pill and then 3 hours later took another, drank water and gatorade... could have had a very bad experience but I was lucky... what I took was very mellow and might have had some caffeine, but my friend took FOUR and her skin turned all red and blotchy and her eyes were bulging and she was chomping her teeth incessantly.... she bought a pacifier and she still ended up biting through her cheek.

    Egh.... kind of left a bad taste in my mouth about the whole thing, I got really worried. Let him know it's not worth the risk of overhydrating, dehydrating, fucking up his mouth, or getting some nasty shit in the pill.

    I guess if he's gonna try it, it might be best if he has a friend kind of high up on the distribution ladder. Hopefully he'll take something cut with caffeine, and not heroin or meth or cheaper poisons, and advise him to just buy one so he can only take one the first time. and keep gatorades on hand.
    Did your friend bite RIGHT through her cheek?

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    Take the red pill

    Take the blue pill

    see where the rabbit hole goes

    I like both red an blue.....let's make purple and call it a night


    haha I doubt she bit through her cheek, I think she means her friend chewed a hole in it........it happens sometimes when you're not paying attention

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    Yeah, lol!! Not like *bite* "OW! There's a hole in my cheek!!"

    More like so much gnawing that she made a huge bleeding spot of torn up flesh in the side of her mouth. Still not fun.

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    I would ONLY take pills that are clear gelcaps with white power in them (i.e. pure mdma), not pressed pills with patterns on them. Pressed pills are very likely to have many other drugs in them that especially in conjunction with mdma can be even more damaging than just the effects of mdma alone (for instance, oftentimes -- pillsreports.com should confirm this -- it might have heroin in it or ketamine or cocaine).

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    I'll admit it.. I LOVE x... But I don't do it all of the time, 0-3 times a year maybe.

    I'm sure he'll be fine... I'd be more worried about these "major druggie" people he's hanging around than him trying ecstacy (but make sure he has info about it... print out the stuff from the above sites and hand it to him. Have him tell you where he'll be when he takes it and if he needs to leave from there to call you instead of attempting to drive.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21 View Post
    I'll admit it.. I LOVE x... But I don't do it all of the time, 0-3 times a year maybe.
    Same here, it's a rare guilty pleasure and I've been lucky to get decent stuff, but for the future I'll take anomar's advice and try to seek out the gelcaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    Same here, it's a rare guilty pleasure and I've been lucky to get decent stuff, but for the future I'll take anomar's advice and try to seek out the gelcaps.
    Those are really hard to find. I've only gotten ahold of those once.
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    I think it's important to encourage him not to do it. If he doesn't listen, let him know that there are precautions he can take to ensure that he's safe. There are kits that can be bought that quickly test the chemical components of the pill and can tell you whether it has K, speed or other substances in it. Also, if he plans on doing it, let him know that it's okay to ease into a pill he's never tried before (after testing) by doing halves at different times.

    If he can get pure MDMA, it is by far the best option because the high is clean, last approx 3 hours and the come down is fine.

    If he suffers from depression or any other kind of mental illness, he should seriously avoid it all together because it can worsen his symptoms.

    Good luck

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    ^^^^seriously?! Where would you be able to find one of those testing kits? That's interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funlatina82 View Post
    I'm just really scared for him, I've seen those commercials where people say that a loved one of their's died after trying it just once. Does that really happen often?
    No. A bit less often with ecstasy than with Tylenol.

    I told him he could have a bad reaction to it and he said, "Well her 2 brothers are major druggies so they know what they're getting". So I said, "Oh, so since they are major druggies they know everything, huh?"
    Ecstasy itself -- that is, MDMA -- is relatively harmelss. Not healthy, but no worse than alcohol, most likely. The real harm is with bogus pills that contain other more harmful substances like PMA.

    You can get a home testing kit here that will help distinguish between genuine pills and bogus pills.

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    From what I recall, ecstasy ITSELF never kills anyone. Not one recorded case, actually.

    The dehydration and dancing without drinking water is.

    The over-hydration is.

    The mixing drugs and alcohol is.

    The chemicals used to make it 'less pure' so the dealers can get their bigger cut is.

    Ecstasy when pure and supervised? Is not.


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