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    Both Fornication and Prostitution are aginst the laws in most of our states and involve "consenting adults" engaging in sex with the only distinction between the two as prostitutes receive $$$ directly for services rendered while fornicators are paid INDIRECTLY through other means dinner, shopping etc. Typically & practically, prostitution laws are enforced far more than fornication ... In lieu of the Lawrence vs. Texas decision and the fact that The following states California, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, & Washington have no statutes against fornication, adultery, or cohabitation, and they also do not recognize common-law marriages, what are SW members thoughts that the prostitution laws will be at least decriminalized and or unenforced similiar to what the enforcement of fornication laws are currently?
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    Default Re: Prostitution vs. Fornication

    I think fornication would be difficult to prove because that person could say they were saying sex with their boyfriend and he supported her or he was having sex with his girlfriend and she supported him, not an uncommon thing. But when money's involved, it's probably a little easier to prove because you have sex and then money is exchanged at that moment. At least this is what I would think, that's probably why there's no law againist fornication, it would be harder to prove.

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    Default Re: Prostitution vs. Fornication

    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876 View Post
    I think fornication would be difficult to prove because that person could say they were saying sex with their boyfriend and he supported her or he was having sex with his girlfriend and she supported him, not an uncommon thing. But when money's involved, it's probably a little easier to prove because you have sex and then money is exchanged at that moment. At least this is what I would think, that's probably why there's no law againist fornication, it would be harder to prove.

    There are laws against fornication in just about as many states as there are laws against prostitution... The line is certainly very blury...

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    ^^^ in point of fact, the Supreme Court's Lawrence v Texas decision has all but declared fornication laws unconstitutional, with polygamy laws similarly brought into constitutional question. The legal point revolves around consensual sex in a private setting.

    However, the govt's right to regulate 'commerce' puts prostitution into an entirely different category. The legal point revolves around making a profit from providing a 'paid service', where the gov't has decided that such a 'paid service' business will not be permitted.

    The logical conclusion is that a dancer busted for having sex with a customer in the VIP room could probably get out of the charges if she provided the sex for free i.e. without additional pay. Thus direct payment for 'services rendered' makes all the difference in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ in point of fact, the Supreme Court's Lawrence v Texas decision has all but declared fornication laws unconstitutional, with polygamy laws similarly brought into constitutional question. The legal point revolves around consensual sex in a private setting.

    However, the govt's right to regulate 'commerce' puts prostitution into an entirely different category. The legal point revolves around making a profit from providing a 'paid service', where the gov't has decided that such a 'paid service' business will not be permitted.

    The logical conclusion is that a dancer busted for having sex with a customer in the VIP room could probably get out of the charges if she provided the sex for free i.e. without additional pay. Thus direct payment for 'services rendered' makes all the difference in the world.
    If a customer takes a dancer out shopping and the dancer ends of fucking the customer in exchange/appreciation for the shopping spree is this fornication or prostitution?

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    Default Re: Prostitution vs. Fornication

    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69 View Post
    If a customer takes a dancer out shopping and the dancer ends of fucking the customer in exchange/appreciation for the shopping spree is this fornication or prostitution?
    If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does anybody care?

    It's both! It's Neither! It's sex for some form of goods with a monetary value.

    Let court sort it out.
    People are not ruled by their memories.

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    Default Re: Prostitution vs. Fornication

    If a customer takes a dancer out shopping and the dancer ends of fucking the customer in exchange/appreciation for the shopping spree is this fornication or prostitution?
    by all of the IRS precedents I am aware, this cannot be considered as 'payment for services rendered'. However if 'Sugar Daddy' gave the dancer a credit card., she went on her own shopping trip, and then 'Sugar Daddy' paid the credit card bill, that's a different story !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ in point of fact, the Supreme Court's Lawrence v Texas decision has all but declared fornication laws unconstitutional, with polygamy laws similarly brought into constitutional question. The legal point revolves around consensual sex in a private setting.

    However, the govt's right to regulate 'commerce' puts prostitution into an entirely different category. The legal point revolves around making a profit from providing a 'paid service', where the gov't has decided that such a 'paid service' business will not be permitted.

    The logical conclusion is that a dancer busted for having sex with a customer in the VIP room could probably get out of the charges if she provided the sex for free i.e. without additional pay. Thus direct payment for 'services rendered' makes all the difference in the world.
    All your points are correct Melonie, however it intrigues me that the porno industry is a "paid service" business that was even legalized way before the Lawrence vs. Texas decision...

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    Default Re: Prostitution vs. Fornication

    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69 View Post
    All your points are correct Melonie, however it intrigues me that the porno industry is a "paid service" business that was even legalized way before the Lawrence vs. Texas decision...
    Pornography is protected under the Constitutional right to freedom of speech in the US.

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