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    ^^ LOL< no kidding, and seriously, let's say a dancer get's pissed at another dancer, if calling the cops in were as easy as that I can see all sorts of problems with girls doing this just to be a b*tch. Yep yep, that'd be LOADS of fun!




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    It's kind of unfortunate because of the simple fact that money talks. This business isn't exactly fair all of the time. The extra's girl may be paying off alot of people and that makes them cover for her. We may complain but we get the answer of "you're just jealous because you're not making any money", or "you just don't like her". It's almost like one of those Nightmare on Elm Street movies where bad shit is happening and no one can see or hear you, they're just staring straight ahead in the classroom. Until you work inside of a stripclub and not just read what we have to say about them, then you 'll never have any idea.

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    Pegasus, you clearly just don't get it and you also seem REALLY naive. Read around here somemore (alot more) and maybe you'll start to understand. Until then, shut the fuck up.

    ***always love when high and mighty bitches come around here trying to tell US what to do, when they obviously have never been in our shoes and so haven't the foggiest idea wtf they're talking about***

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasusrider View Post

    Hi,

    not sure why the cops would raid the entire place ?
    why can't they just send 2 cops to arrest the woman and the john doing prostitution,
    no hassles for other strippers and the night continues on ?



    You obviously have not been in the business long and until you have been you need to keep those comments to yourself. I tell ya what, go ask another girl at your club face to face what you just posted and see what happens to you. I dare ya. This is the most naive and stupid statement I have actually read on here to date.

    -e

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    always love when high and mighty bitches come around here trying to tell US what to do
    No way is this poster a bitch. First, there's no gender selected (neutered I guess). Second, this sounds so MALE ...
    Quote Originally Posted by pegasusrider View Post
    hmmm, my original inquiry was why complain about it and can't you do something about it instead of complaining that they are whores in strip-clubs.

    i'm not trying to start a fight here. Complaining to complain is worthless, like a total waste of energy, right?
    Must do something! Compelled to solve problem! Does no good to cry! You don't understand, Lil' Woman, so let me repeat myself!

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    Pegasus = troll.

    Duh

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    Default Re: stop complaining and do something?

    "Extras" happen everywhere...in an office building where the secretary or other is giving the boss a bj or making a mess of the janitor's closet....Bored housewives paying for services rendered with sex, etc.

    The other issues with "ratting out" other dancers is ...

    1. You get a lable from other dancers as being a trouble maker/jealous bitch/ etc. making it hard to work and might lead to having to watch your back.

    2. It is not only the "extras dancer" that goes down but everyone in the club goes down and even the "clean dancers" get the extras lable in the public eye....that means even if the club opens again custys stay away for ages if not forever and it just makes it worse. The old adage if one dancer is whoreing then every single one of them in that club are.


    I am so glad this place is one where venting is not only allowed but encouraged!!! It helps to know someone is going through the same shit as you are or will be in future...so you are not alone in your experiences. It is also a good education for women who are thinking of dancing...they can know what they may be getting into...know what manner of dancer they want to be and not be blindsided by customers/DJ's?/Managers and others.
    Be very careful if you make a woman cry, because God counts her tears. The woman came out of a man's rib. Not from his feet to be walked on. Not from his head to be superior, but from the side to be equal. Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved."
    Hebrew Talmud


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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence View Post
    No way is this poster a bitch. First, there's no gender selected (neutered I guess). Second, this sounds so MALE ...
    Yeah, I'm sure it's male. But who says he's not a lil bitch? I used that term with the thought in mind it could be a male or female

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    hi,

    ok, to clarify things, i started this thread after reading this one:

    Pussy Vs. Money

    so, read my original post again...

    some quotes among that thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by shwankie View Post

    There are a ton of reasons strip clubs have declined, including mass media making being a stripper "cool," and "easy." If normal girls give head on the first date (and the statistics for this in even high-school girls are just astonishingly high), I can understand why men would think we should do much more for the kind of money they think they are spending. That doesn't mean I have to like or go along with it, but I do get where it comes from. So, dealing with it...mostly, I don't. I still make cash, but I can literally see it decline with the months as guys get more and more entitled. My dealing is to know I am out in 6 months. If I didn't know that for sure, I'd be looking for another job, because I am sure that in the next 2 years, the industry will be completely unworkable for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    Noctina, have I told you that I love you?!!!!!! You just said what's been bubbling in the back of my mind. I've been working like a maniac on my transitional classes for the last six months because of the psychological toll of these wankers! My cousin wanted me to hook her up but I wouldn't tell a new girl to dance. I agree it's not worth it anymore unless you already have the chops and are willing to go on the road.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    The reason so many men don't see the difference between stripping and prostitution is because they seek that out, AND because it IS available in many places.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    but seriously i whole-heartedly agree with u here.
    i wish there was something that could be done to change this.
    why are they all in there looking for romance, sex, etc it's so hard to make money without getting completely head f**ked.
    Quote Originally Posted by noctina View Post
    i was just thinking of writing a little rant about this very topic, but it's already been covered! i agree with shwankie that it's comforting to know we're all in the same boat...

    i'm from michigan and all i wanna do is find a club where it's possible to make more than $100 a night!!! i used to be sorta disappointed about making $200 a night... nowadays that would be an excellent night! so many girls i know are doing so pathetic, like $40 for an 8 hour shift. THAT'S LESS THAN MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE! i can't even support myself on a stripper income anymore. i quit dancing and am delivering pizzas, which has actually been better money. i can make like $80-100 a night, which a lot of dancers can't even pull off right now.... and at least it's consistent. it's total bullshit to go to work and come home with nothing, or end up owing money for sitting on your ass in the empty club!!! it's fucking ridiculous...

    i honestly think that exotic dancing doesn't exist anymore. we aren't entertainers anymore, we are sex toys that won't make any money unless we fuck and suck like guys think we're supposed to. clean girls don't make money, i know this for a fact because i'm a clean girl and my friends are clean girls, and we are all suffering. they shouldn't even call it a lapdance anymore, they should call it "whatever the girl allows you to do for $20" because its definitely not about dancing. guys look at me like i'm crazy when they ask what i'm going to do in the VIP, and i say i'm going to dance. "you're JUST going to DANCE???" i guess a seductive dance that doesn't include molestation is unheard of...

    its a shame because it takes away the art of dancing. so many girls i know are excellent dancers and do all kinds of impressive tricks, but they make no money because they wont suck dick. the bottom line is that the money you make is totally determined by how many extras you do. i quit this industry because i'm not a prostitute and it's futile to sit around the club offering services that guys do not want, and nobody wants a girl to JUST DANCE for them. i am fed up with begging guys for money and trying to negotiate with idiots who insist that i should give them 4 dances for $30 and go home with them afterwards. sometimes it's just like "are you fucking KIDDING ME???"

    i cant mentally take it anymore... theres only so long someone can be treated like a prostitute and propositioned for a fucking blow job before they start to feel worthless. i would tell anyone who is thinking of becomming a stripper to not waste their time and become a waitress or bartender or something instead.. at least most people tip and you dont get your pussy grabbed for it... and you're guaranteed to make SOMETHING. i would also suggest going back to college, that's what i'm doing, i'm not working at a whorehouse for the rest of my life...

    sorry ladies, i'm just upset and about to be homeless cuz i'm so broke.... this industry has fucked over a lot of good, clean girls.
    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ yup ain't it the truth. This is exactly why I always laughed about girlfrends who were pissed because their BF's were strip club patrons. In truth, their BF used to have a 10 times better chance of getting laid in a regular bar or night club these days ... without spending $100 bucks on private dances !!! I'm not so sure these days though !

    absolutely on target ! The gradual (and now almost complete) transition of exotic dancing from being part of 'show business' to being part of the 'sex business' is exactly why I quit performing live. And don't feel that the intrusion of 'sex business' just applies to 'house dancers' these days either. In point of fact most features are now XXX girls who advance book hotel room 'private sessions' with customers between shows (customers willing to pay $500-$1000 for a no holds barred live session with a 'porn star) and who primarily use their club feature booking as a tax write-off for their travel and hotel expenses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    I don't blame the guys. Like I already said there are many reasons that the industry has gone downhill and fast.
    a) greedy club management forcing too many girls on the floor and forcing same girls to pay outrageous fees.
    b) Competition from the internet, from mainstream media like MTV, From adult video stores, from out call escort services as well as from all the other strip clubs.
    c) Not every customer wants to pay strippers/hookers for sex. Those customers have gone away and are hanging at places like "Hooters".

    But, hey, thanks for your sympathy and the solutions to the plight of the professional stripper. I changed careers, I'm now in construction and I dance for the fun of it. Certainly not for the money any more.

    All I ask of guys like you is that, please, find your service providers somewhere besides strip clubs. The internet is a good resource as are those local escort agencies, and don't forget about legal brothels in Nevada.
    etc.








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    Default Re: stop complaining and do something?

    We know what goes on in strip clubs, and we know what we say about them on here. We were just saying why we were "complaining and not doing something about it". Because calling the cops would be stupid and would just burn us, the good girls, along with the bad ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tart View Post
    Pegasus = troll.

    Duh

    Basically. I'm outta here.

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    I am closing this thread.

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