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    I went to a strip club last Monday, and I am wondering what it is that isn't allowed in strip clubs? Obviously, there's no sex, no oral stuff, etc. I know that. But, in Colorado, what isn't the dancer supposed to do to the customer? I wouldn't want to allow anything that could get a dancer in trouble, or myself (obviously).

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    Well....
    We're not supposed to get you drunk and roll you in the VIP and steal your credit cards
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    Or sing that lame John Denver song "Rocky Mountain High" while they are grinding your privates.

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    Hahaha, that's funny. Ok. Thanks y'all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys
    I went to a strip club last Monday, and I am wondering what it is that isn't allowed in strip clubs?
    it depends. do you want the official or unofficial answer?
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    Obviously, there's no sex, no oral stuff, etc.
    obviously...officially speaking.
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    I wouldn't want to allow anything that could get a dancer in trouble, or myself (obviously).
    awwww...how touching. why, if i were a stripper. if this post had not been moved from CC and the karma system was still around. i would give you 5 brown nosing points.
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    Not brown nosing. I just really liked her. I'd like her to stick around so that I could visit her again. I know it was part of the hussle, but she seemed like a genuinely sweet girl.

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    Or sing that lame John Denver song "Rocky Mountain High" while they are grinding your privates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Or sing that lame John Denver song "Rocky Mountain High" while they are grinding your privates.

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    Is it just that song in particular, or am I allowed to sing ANYTHING while grinding? Like... how about "My Humps"? I do sing like, way, way off key... does that make a difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys
    I'd like her to stick around so that I could visit her again.
    it's not that hard and you don't even need a permission slip. bring money and she'll stick to you like superglue. however, you will need a blowtorch to burn off the SS sticking to your clothing....problem solved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crys
    I know it was part of the hussle, but she seemed like a genuinely sweet girl.
    part of the hustle? LOL...appearing to be genuinely sweet girl to customers is the hustle. obviously, it was pretty effective on you because you ate it up with a spoon....mission accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Is it just that song in particular, or am I allowed to sing ANYTHING while grinding? Like... how about "My Humps"? I do sing like, way, way off key... does that make a difference?
    Jenny, it's the song not the singing that would annoy me. "My Humps" would be a far better choice. Miss D danced to that song frequently when it was popular so I have fond recollections of "lovely lady lumps".

    Don't worry about getting off key. Not something I would make an issue of. When I was a wee FBR in elementary school, music was part of the cirriculum along with readin', writin' and 'rithmetic. I remember one year having this old biddy music teacher. She would always pull out this instrument that looked and sounded like a mini harmomica. She would blow a note, tell us the name of the note and make us sing a few words in that key. Anyone she heard off key would receive a scolding and if little Sally or Bobby still couldn't get it right she would smack them with a ruler. It was actually pretty effective and I remember several kids who improved significantly. Unfortunately, there were also some who never quite got it and I imagine they wear the scars to this day. So, I guess my point is, if you did sing while grinding and I heard you drift off key, the most I would do is join in the song and try to bring you back on track. Unless of course, you wanted me to hit you with a ruler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR View Post
    Unfortunately, there were also some who never quite got it and I imagine they wear the scars to this day. So, I guess my point is, if you did sing while grinding and I heard you drift off key, the most I would do is join in the song and try to bring you back on track. Unless of course, you wanted me to hit you with a ruler.

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    Do you just carry around ruler for this purpose? Like when a girl is all "I've been bad and I need a spanking" you're all "Well, it's a good thing I have this..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post

    Do you just carry around ruler for this purpose? Like when a girl is all "I've been bad and I need a spanking" you're all "Well, it's a good thing I have this..."
    Well, the ruler would work well for that purpose. But the real reason I carry it around is to prove that when I throw out a number, I'm talking inches not centimeters. Dancers are often skeptics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk View Post
    it's not that hard and you don't even need a permission slip. bring money and she'll stick to you like superglue. however, you will need a blowtorch to burn off the SS sticking to your clothing....problem solved.

    part of the hustle? LOL...appearing to be genuinely sweet girl to customers is the hustle. obviously, it was pretty effective on you because you ate it up with a spoon....mission accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys View Post
    I went to a strip club last Monday, and I am wondering what it is that isn't allowed in strip clubs? Obviously, there's no sex, no oral stuff, etc. I know that. But, in Colorado, what isn't the dancer supposed to do to the customer? I wouldn't want to allow anything that could get a dancer in trouble, or myself (obviously).
    Sack up, dude. Nothing is "obviously." Neither the laws of the state, the laws of the municipality it is in or the rules of the club matter. The only rules that matter are those of the dancer you are with.

    I have been in a veritable whorehouse of a club and not even allowed to touch a girl's hips. I have been in a "no contact" club and fucked a girl in the middle of a brightly lit VIP couch, 6 feet away from a DJ and bouncer.

    Today, I made brief visit to the Hi-Liter here in Phoenix. It's a moderate one way contact club with some 2-way allowed. Dancer named Cicely came onstage, and I knew I had to lap her. Gorgeous, young, blonde, tanned, knockout body. When I approached her onstage to tip her, I could tell just by her attitude approaching me I wasn't gonna be allowed to play in her cabbage patch. Didn't stop me from getting eight dances from her, but there were three other dancers there today with whom I've gone a lot farther (including one I've OTC'd), and never without exchanging a single word about what is allowed and what isn't. A good dancer knows what her limits are, and knows how to let you know without ruining the experience. I run from any dancer who starts to tell me what is/isn't allowed. I'll find out soon enough anyway.

    It's your money. Push the envelope without being annoying. You'd be amazed just how far you get to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    It's your money. Push the envelope without being annoying. You'd be amazed just how far you get to go.
    Indeed it is your money, and you can spend it any way you want, but...
    if you are one of the guys that actually, you know, CARES about making other people feel something anywhere on a spectrum of
    brutally uncomfortable__________completely violated
    I wouldn't recommend that tactic. Note, this is only if you care about making people feel uncomfortable_____violated. If you don't care... well, enough said. You should have already stopped reading back at that first capitalized "cares". I would go with either a) ask or b) you could just take for granted that she is already doing everything she feels comfortable with. A lap dancer isn't like a house cleaner. It's not like she's just going to ignore vacuuming under your bed if you don't watch her. It doesn't bother me when guys ask me to do things (although it does bewilder me sometimes - "I'm sorry you want to touch my eyeball? ab-solutely not.") but it would bother the fuck out of me (even if I don't actually scream and get up and walk away, I'm seriously bugged) when they just go ahead and do it ("Get the fuck away - what the hell are you doing to my eyeball?")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    Sack up, dude. Nothing is "obviously." Neither the laws of the state, the laws of the municipality it is in or the rules of the club matter. The only rules that matter are those of the dancer you are with.
    Yes. And no.

    Yes, the dancer establishes her limits.

    If her limits exceed the club's, or the law's, you and she (although short of prostitution, primarily she) are at risk.

    Colorado law specifically prohibits any contact with the genitals and nipple or areola.
    City/county laws specifically prohibit various other activities as a function of whether the establishment serves liquor.
    Clubs and dancers differ from the law primarily as a function of the neighborhood, management, and privacy of their "private dance" areas. And their trust of the customer. A club's practices may change as result of changing attention from LE. If LE is in the club, .... I don't even have to say.

    Some Colorado clubs:
    Glendale area: Shotgun's ranges between air and a good grind. Very public dance area. Penthouse: grind and more private.
    PT's: Relatively private and relatively high mileage.
    Downtown Denver clubs: Air.
    Boulder: Air to medium touch on topless side. Brief grind and always moving on the nude side. No contact when nude.
    Longmont: Air/bikini
    Elsewhere: Air

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys
    Are you always an ass?
    LOL...excellent. now, why don't you try bringing that same attitude with you to the sc instead of wringing your hands over some stripper like a shy, lovesick schoolboy on prom night.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeless
    If her limits exceed the club's, or the law's, you and she (although short of prostitution, primarily she) are at risk.
    yeah, but rules are meant to be broken.
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    Colorado law specifically prohibits any contact with the genitals and nipple or areola.
    and officially, houston has a 3-foot rule. unofficially, it's broken or ignored countless of times everyday by customers, strippers and LE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys View Post
    I know it was part of the hussle, but she seemed like a genuinely sweet girl.

    Most customers start with the assumption that they can see through the hustle to the "real" person. Just remember two things:

    First, she has 8hrs a day, 5+ days a week to practice seeming to be a genuinely sweet girl. She practices on you, and every other guy who is attracted to a genuinely sweet girl. And if she is really good, she can detect when a guy is looking for a genuinely nasty/bad girl and play that part.

    Second, don't confuse the wood in your pants for a hot girl with caring. There are a lot of genuinely sweet girls out there. You're in a strip club. It's a great place to get wood for a hot looking girl. It's not a great place to find a genuinely sweet girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Indeed it is your money, and you can spend it any way you want, but...
    if you are one of the guys that actually, you know, CARES about making other people feel something anywhere on a spectrum of
    brutally uncomfortable__________completely violated
    I wouldn't recommend that tactic.
    nice try, but save the guilt-trip and social arm-twisting sermon for the SW Junior Auxiliary Brigade (ie: CC). he's not a rookie. he didn't infer or imply the broad felt uncomfortable or violated by any of his actions. this is just another example of why non-customer, temple virgins need to STFU.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It doesn't bother me when guys ask me to do things (snip) but it would bother the fuck out of me (even if I don't actually scream and get up and walk away, I'm seriously bugged) when they just go ahead and do it
    well, that's you. however, every stripper isn't a prissy, girl scout. some of them are real friendly. i'm sure he can separate the friendly strippers from the girl scouts just fine and without your help or input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk View Post
    nice try, but save the guilt-trip and social arm-twisting sermon for the SW Junior Auxiliary Brigade (ie: CC). he's not a rookie. he didn't infer or imply the broad felt uncomfortable or violated by any of his actions. this is just another example of why non-customer, temple virgins need to STFU.
    well, that's you. however, every stripper isn't a prissy, girl scout. some of them are real friendly. i'm sure he can separate the friendly strippers from the girl scouts just fine and without your help or input.
    Honey, like I said - if you don't care the post really has nothing to say to you. And, hate to say it, but no, you can't separate the "friendly" (?) strippers from the "girl scouts". That was my point. And he is a rookie; that's why he's posting the question. CP gave him a particular customer perspective - just push her, physically, without acertaining beforehand whether or not she minds being touched in particular ways because some other dancers readily tolerate it, and don't worry about whether or not you offend her; I offered a particular dancer perspective - that just because she doesn't get up and walk away doesn't mean you haven't offended her, and if you have interest in not being offensive it is wise to ask before you sexually touch someone. He can take whatever advice he wants, but mine is certainly a reasonably perspective.

    Do you even know why you're fighting with me right now? This was not any kind of indictment of mileage or even a claim that dancers don't do it or don't want to do it, or that customers shouldn't do it. I suggest that you should ASK before fingering a girl and these are fighting words to you? Dude, you just don't even have a point anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crys View Post
    Are you always an ass?
    Most of his (mr. punk's) posts are aimed at getting someone's goat. It's called being an attention whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Honey, like I said - if you don't care the post really has nothing to say to you.
    oh, but it does. specifically, when a non-customer comes down here to lecture the unwashed masses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    And, hate to say it, but no, you can't separate the "friendly" (?) strippers from the "girl scouts".
    sorry, friendly = nasty skank.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    CP gave him a particular customer perspective
    IIRC, you said it's a tactic that you wouldn't recommend. who the fu#k are you? oh, that's right...a stripper.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    I offered a particular dancer perspective
    exactly...you're a non-customer. when you pay for as many laps or get as nasty with strippers (as a paying customer). please, feel free to share your perspective. so, until that day, save the stripper lectures for the PLs upstairs. sh#t, they'll sell their own mother down the river for the smallest nugget of stripper insight they can get their hands on. yet, bizarrely you insist on coming down here and sharing, rather than upstairs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Do you even know why you're fighting with me right now?
    yes and obviously you need a recap...(1) save the lectures. the patrichary doesn't need your help. (2) you're a stripper not a customer.
    Quote Originally Posted by LapOfLuxury
    Most of his (mr. punk's) posts are aimed at getting someone's goat. It's called being an attention whore.
    ohhh...rimshot. how many brownie points will you get for that one? i'm sure jenny will be right upstairs to tuck you in with tales of the stripping lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk View Post
    oh, but it does. specifically, when a non-customer comes down here to lecture the unwashed masses.
    blah blah blah
    IIRC, you said it's a tactic that you wouldn't recommend. who the fu#k are you? oh, that's right...a stripper.
    Right. And I mentioned that if one was interested in not offending strippers that CP's approach may not be the best one. Where's the problem? I specifically said that if you don't care about offending the strippers the insight was not one you would care about (so all the guys who are all "Who the fuck cares if I'm violating her, I just want to finger some stripper pussy" know that I'm not talking to them). If you DO care about offending strippers it is. I had the impression that he did. I offered my insight on not being offensive. Really, you've just lost your sense of humour and are now lashing out randomly. Did you mom throw you out, or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Palmer View Post
    The only rules that matter are those of the dancer you are with.

    Push the envelope without being annoying. (my bold)
    These are the two sentiments that resonate most from his post. I can't think of two better guiding principles for a SC experience. I don't get any sense of "just push her, physically" from these sentiments.

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