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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabukicho View Post
    Awesome husband, its great that they will get a male opinion too.
    I think that your letter is perfect as it is, expresses how upset the article makes you, all of us, without being over the top. I love that you call us assertive women, after all aren't these types of magazines all about unleashing the 'fun fearless females'? Yet they print something like this slamming a group of women who dare to be unconventional and in control of their lives. Hypocrites
    You should write them and make that point. And EE, your letter was excellent. I. too, felt there was more to say, but I figured they would not hear from a lot of 2nd-decade vets like me, so I chose something I didn't think would get much attention from other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfire View Post
    does anyone else find it annoying you are supposed to provide your adress and phone number to send a letter to the editor? ps this article really sucks, I was going to renew my subscription to glamour but now I'm not. Perhaps someone could send them a link to this thread so they can see they really are losing our businness. I also stopped reading cosmo after they wrote something negative about strippers. (cosmo sucks anyways though.) For anyone who used to enjoy glamour I've found marie claire to be on the same level, I think I will renew with them instead.
    Yes that was annoyng. I've never been that into Glamour, so I'm not too suprised. Marie Claire whoops Glamours pants off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cally View Post
    Im seriously considering writing an article for like Cosmo or something for the 'real life reads' as 'my life as a stripper' and focus all on the postive aspects...

    How much ya wanna bet they wont print it? LoL
    I agree. The magazines (along with most people) are trying to demoralize this industry and turn young girls whom read these magazines off from dancing all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damia View Post
    I agree. The magazines (along with most people) are trying to demoralize this industry and turn young girls whom read these magazines off from dancing all together.
    Isn't that a good thing? Doesn't that mean we'll make more money?


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    That's what I was thinking!

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    Yeah, let's pump out more of these articles so we can all the money for ourselves!!!

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    I put this in my MYSPACE blog. Thought you all would get a laugh out of it.

    "No one should have to be a stripper" She spent years dancing naked for leering men clutching $5 bills. Now she's trying to help other women escape the soul-killing triple-X life.
    Now seriously, nobody HAS to be a stripper. Me, I could have taught school. I did that for one soul-killing year. Every day I faced a few dozen cocky, arrogant, misguided adolescents and attempted to teach them the pleasures of reading and learning and using their minds. And then they told me they hadn't done their homework because they were too busy watching TV or getting laid.

    I could have stayed in retail. I could have killed more than my soul managing a Radio Shack store, mandatory 54 hours a week on $25,000 salary, with abusive customers and a misogamistic district manager. I was seriously expected to tell customers "thank you, please visit us again" after they threw merchandise at me. It happened more than once, and let me tell you, getting beaned in the side of the head with a package of four D batteries, HURTS!

    But no, I chose to give all that up for the sad and depressing work of dancing. I must admit, I feel SOOOOOOOO degraded when some moron grabs my ass, that I just have to turn around and smack him for it. (Smacking people who desperately dereve it is jsut so humiliating, don't you think??) It is completely demoralizing to have people greet me warmly, buy me drinks, and give me compliments. I felt so much more respected when the great majority of people I met in a day would imply or even say outright, what do you know; you are only a woman (teacher)?

    I really hate that, you know. Having people act happy to see me. I hate it more when they say how much they enjoy my company, or my dancing, or even looking at various parts of my body. I really mostly especially hate it when I know I have made somebody happy, really brightened their day. Absolutely disgusting.

    And do you know what else I hate? (Ohhhhhh, I am on a roll now!) I hate not punching a time clock. I hate not being responsible for other people's children or merchandise or money or property. I hate being able to stay home with my kid when he needs me and taking time off to help my mom. Making my own schedule really sucks. So does picking up an extra shift or two whenever I decide I want something.

    And I really really f'ing despise making as much in 2 days as I used to make all week, attempting to put a little sense into the heads of other people's insolent brats. Now I have no bloody choice but to spend some of my extra time and income with my own son, making sure he does not grow up to be the same kind of willfully ignorant, arrogant little cuss that I so enjoy beating my head against. Damn! That was one of my life's ambitions, to be so busy providing for my kid that I didn't have time to raise him. And I guess I have to spend the rest of my free time building up my couple of businesses and making my husband feel like the luckiest man alive. Man, that irks me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by makeitrhyme View Post
    This reminds me of tonight's episode of Intervention.

    There was a bulimic girl who became a stripper so she'd have money to buy all her food that she would binge on. She hid it from her parents so they wouldn't be ashamed of her. Her father's reaction (when he was told about the stripping) was something along the lines of "wtfomg!!!!one!!!". He was calmer with the fact that his daughter had been a bulimic for over three years than with the idea of his daughter being a stripper (or at least it came off that way to me).

    I bet that'll influence a lot of people's perception of the stripping industry. Well, the people that watched it anyway.

    Did anyone else happen to see that episode...?

    -slowly trails off topic- Sorry.

    I think I saw that episode, but I didn't watch it all the way through- Was it with the sandy-haired blonde, she drove a truck that broke down, and her parents put a pad-lock on the fridge?

    That was just terrible, by the way. How in the WORLD did she eat all that???

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    I wrote Glamour a letter about how pissed I am too. They lick super-model's and celebrity's asses - people who get paid to be hot - and then trash us! Women who have to be beautifull and actually WORK for our fucking money! I really like how Harmony blames stripping for her crappy 3 years instead of the scum-sucker she was sleeping with.
    Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, and dance like nobody is watching.

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    Ugh, saw the issue of Glamour in stores today with the pictures and such. Bwuhahaha, she was a goofy looking stripper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colleen View Post
    I put this in my MYSPACE blog. Thought you all would get a laugh out of it.

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    Colleen, this is awesome.

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    Honestly, this articule is fucked up! She's was a stupid drogadict dumn ass girl dating a pimp! It's not our faul she was so stupid! and that doesn't mean we are all like that!
    I am a dancer because I love to be a dancer. I don't do any drugs, Hell! I don't even smoke, I am married to a wonderful man who treats me with nothing but respect, who loves me and takes care of me, and I don't even let guys touch me when I'm giving a lap dance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nychaos99 View Post
    I think I saw that episode, but I didn't watch it all the way through- Was it with the sandy-haired blonde, she drove a truck that broke down, and her parents put a pad-lock on the fridge?

    That was just terrible, by the way. How in the WORLD did she eat all that???

    -slowly joining you on the off topic trail-.....
    Yep that's the one. i was gonna post on here about her father's reaction, but that last time I did that (re: a stripper having some kind of issue on Intervention and the parents being more upset that she was stripper than a drunken drug addict) I got flamed by some people, both on the forum and in PM. I didn't want to deal with it this time around.

    Anyways, I haven't read the article yet. I got my magazone today and will read it yesterday. I plan to write a letter to the editor as well, but from the point of a female customer / friend of dancers. Sure, I've seen my share of the 'typical' stripper-stereotype, but I have great friends who've made a great living dancing and they are intellgent, witty and all-around good people. It really chaps my ass when I hear people going off on some rant about strippers.






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    You ladies are so amazing!

    I read this article at my lovely nine to five "regular" job and became angry like no other.

    I'm drafting a letter to Glamour. No one should have to be a stripper, sure, but not everyone is cut out to dance. Not everyone is cut out to be in this industry. Clearly, Harmony Dust wasn't. But she shouldn't judge those of us who are.

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    Shit, the more I think about it the more annoyed I am. I should write an article "No One Should HAVE to be a Piss-On Underpaid Taken-Advantage-Of Administrative Assistant" b/c let me tell you - that's what I am and I am exposed to shit that is unbelieveable. And there are millions of women in corporate america that know exactly what I am talking about. I see sexual harassment, gender discrimination, people being fired, physical fights between our union employees, I hear about men cheating on their wives (and no, not with strippers! ), etc .....anyways this article makes me so irritated. When I can collect myself this weekend, I'm gonna explain to them that this article is very biased and is not at all accurate for a majority of dancers. (I can't wait to see if they'll publish any letters going against this article)






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    ^ Doubtfull, although it would thrill me to see them at least apologize....

    A strange thing happened after I wrote that letter to Glamor though. I decided I wanted to let my parents (Mom) know I was dancing. It occured to me that by defending myself, and being proud of what I do and who I am as a person, I shouldn't worry about what some stranger, who obviously has issues that she should be medicated for, thinks....but instead focus on giving my family that perspective.

    I'm still rolling the idea around more and more. I love my mom to death, and we have a good, not great, but healthy relationship for two grown women....and if I can write to a national magazine and exclaim that I am proud of myself and feel good about myself then I'd better stick to it, or be a hypocrite......

    gonna sleep on it......




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    Wow EE, good luck!

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    What a brave move, EE! I have not told my parents, and don't think I'm going to any time soon. Not because I'm ashamed of what I'm doing, but because I know that, even though I know that they would (eventually) support me it would be really hard for them. And I don't feel like I need to put them through that.

    I have told pretty much everyone else I know, though. My friends, even some of my professors. So I think that pretty much confirms that I'm not ashamed at all!

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    **Thinking I'll wait till after the holidays....I'd hate to be "The stripper that ruined Christmas"! Maybe New Years......

    So, any more letters to Glamor? C'mon...share!

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    I *heart* Colleen. That was awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilired View Post
    I hate how a big part of her "getting out" was finding a husband, like she needs a man to support her.
    There's a guy in Portland who's had a classified ad in Exotic Magazine for the whole year I've been working. It says, "LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT?? Single male in search of a beautiful female to send back to school (?), spoil and travel with. Long-term relationship desired." And then there's a phone number. (If you want to know what it is for some reason, just download the magazine as a PDF and find the ad. I keep wanting to phone him up and give him a piece of my mind.)

    There's just so much wrong with this, I can't even list all of it. He wants a woman as a commodity, but tries to look like a "rescuer" -- more like a life-long strip club experience, I'm sure. Yeah. Instead of being a fantasy dream girl for hours of every day, be one for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. Keep up the facade of love and gratitude in exchange for this loser's pocketbook. That's not a way out, that's a way deep, deep in. Anyone who can do this without going insane, more power to her, but that's not anyone I know.

    Half the girls in Portland have been to school already anyway. When the club is dead I have been known to break out a CD with "What Do You Do With A BA In English?" on it. :-)

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    P.S. No one should have to work. We should always be provided for by the Magic Millionaire Money Tree and have our asses wiped for us by robots.

    Failing that, I at least enjoy working in an industry where I don't have to constantly make myself sick from lack of sleep, because my body's not built for 40 hours a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaosfairy View Post
    P.S. No one should have to work. We should always be provided for by the Magic Millionaire Money Tree and have our asses wiped for us by robots.
    Ain't that the truth?! Maybe if I plant a dollar in my backyard it will grow into a money tree.... (side note: did anyone else do this when they were little? I think I planted some change in hopes a tree would grow. Weird kid, I know.)
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    I think there's a special technique for taking cuttings, only harbored by the secret order of money gardeners.

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    Ok, I'm screwed up. But then again, I was screwed up before and after stripping. There are certainly some consequences of this industry. But then again, there are psychological consequence of being a garbageman too. Notice how people speak to their kids when they don't study: "Keep doing this and you'll wind up being a garbageman!"

    Waste collectors serve an extremely important role to us. Yet they are looked down up as the least ideal job to do. Imagine how that feels to a father with a family he supports this way.

    I don't know if this is directly tied to the convo. I havn't even read the story, not in the mood to be pissed off.

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