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    The other night I'm getting dances from this girl and through the course of the session we're making some small talk. I had told her I liked spending time with her to which she responded. "So you wanna just cuddle and talk a little bit?" My first impulse was to laugh, but some things clicked in my head and I didn't laugh instead I left the decision up to her.

    This was the first time this happened with me, but here is my questions. 1st. Does anybody on here do that? 2nd. Does the price change for her time as she's no longer dancing or should it remain the same?
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    the price should stay the same b/c of the contact factor..... imo at least!

    I do this, but only in vip, and with the right custy, it's a great way to spend the night. for me, it's much more personal then a dance, b/c it's more contact, so vip in that case is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    The other night I'm getting dances from this girl and through the course of the session we're making some small talk. I had told her I liked spending time with her to which she responded. "So you wanna just cuddle and talk a little bit?" My first impulse was to laugh, but some things clicked in my head and I didn't laugh instead I left the decision up to her.
    Hmm, you're the one paying the bill, and you leave the decision up to her. Very interesting. My first impulse would be "oh shit, where's the eject button. Bueller?... Bueller?".

    Does the price change for her time as she's no longer dancing or should it remain the same?
    Speaking only for myself, unless she's a multitasker and can move her lips and her money maker at the same time, it'll change to $0 at the end of the currently playing song. I'm not going to pay 100% price for what I would perceive as 50% effort.

    Other than that, yeah, its still the same.
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    girls do this ALL the time at my club. well, occasionally during individual dances. but more often than not once a customer has bought a block of time, rather than just a one song dance. my club uses the same system as Pan Dah's, so whether a girl is dancing or talking, you pay for her company during the song if you're in the lap dance area.

    i personally won't stop dancing to chat unless the customer asks me to, which some do.

    i can't tell from your post whether you enjoyed it or not. but when you go to a club don't be afraid to tell the girl what it is that you want (assuming it is within the rules and you're polite about it) it's your money and you should enjoy the experience as much as possible. that said, if a girl does give you an especially enjoyable experience, she should be rewarded for it

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    I charge the same per song for cuddling as dancing. Sorry, my time isn't free or negotiable.

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    i've had a guy who didn't wanna go back to VIP but ended up buying 400$ worth of consecutive lapdances - and most of the dances he didn't even want me to work he just asked me to lay and snuggle on him.

    since the club is still charging me and taking % of the dance, if i'm being charged then buddy so are you, regardless of what exactly we decide to do back there (oops, that sounded really dirty).

    normally this is a VIP thing though.

    my favorite VIPs are the one where a guy just wants to sit and chat. no work whatsoever =D

    but honestly if a guy is cool with that and so is the girl it can also be beneficial to the chick - she might make more money doing Xdances with Xamount taken away from her, than being in VIP for the same amount of time but with Yamount taken from her. so i'd never object, even though it is usually a vip experience to relax, cuddle and chat.

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    Thanx for the replies.

    Yeah doc, that was my first impulse as well, but like I said some things clicked and I decided to let her choose.

    Yeah, I was having a great time with this chick, usually if I'm not having fun you won't make it past the first song with me. I forget how many dances I got from her, but I'm pretty sure I bought a decent block of time. lol. I just asked for future reference.

    Again thanx for the feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    I charge the same per song for cuddling as dancing. Sorry, my time isn't free or negotiable.
    whats the rate you charge if I brought a sleeping bag, tent, campout stove and s'mores into the VIP room?


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    I only pay for lap dances - if they want to snuggle and talk or even better let me rub them (legs, tits, ass) this comes in under what I call mileage (many will do this to keep a regular). One gal let me do this during the breaks between lap dances - these "rest periods" were even more fun than the dances LOL.

    The cuddling and chatting a stripper gives you is her marketing tool / reward to a regular in my view - not somethin she should be paid for. I would be furious if a dancer tried to charge me for chatting with me / sitting in my lap as this is what they do to get dances.

    The other day I had one snuggle and talk to me in a semi private, dark LP area and feel her legs while we had a drink. She spent a lot of time talking about her BF and how she was ready to dump him cause he was too drunk to do her a lot of the time (probably just ss). Then I took 5 LD ($100 worth of dances) and got some more really good mileage. She then said she had to go to the girls room and I decided it was time to leave.

    My company will be sending me to the LA area in the near future about once a month and I plan to check out the sc there. I am really worried I will not be able to get quite the mileage or OTC action I get here in Houston (or have to pay more). I will be furious if I go into a club there and no contact or touching is allowed or the gal expects to be paid for her time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John View Post
    whats the rate you charge if I brought a sleeping bag, tent, campout stove and s'mores into the VIP room?

    $20 per song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    Wow, you sound like a real prince. Why in the world would a charming guy like you ever need to visit a strip club? You should have pussy falling out of your pockets.
    LMAO

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    I pay and tip well for dances and extras. But if they just want to sit and cuddle bc they are attracted to me I do not mind. As a professional with a graduate degree, I can offer dancers intelligent conversation during our ITC date.

    In my post above the dancer made $100 from the dances she did for me, this is hardly working for free. Had she not been willing to spend some time with me cuddling / talking then I would not have bought any dances.
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    Yopu'll be furious if a gal expects to be paid for her time? Isn't that what YOU get paid for at work???

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    Default A lot of this is regional!

    I used to go to the SC's a lot. Not too much recently.

    But, it's easy to see where both the customer and the dancers are coming from.

    I live in Houston too, and I'm primarily familiar with the Galleria area clubs.

    At the clubs owned by the "D Brothers", it's heavy contact and extras galore. The other club's range from relatively tame(The Men's Club), to bordello(Penthouse)!

    With that in mind, customers expect and get touching and girl's sitting in their lap for free. Usually, buying 1 drink for her will do it!

    The girls aren't doing it because the guys are such wonderful gentlemen, but because they are there to make money and compete.

    The ownership and management encourages this system, so it would be hard not to. Of course no one has to do anything they don't want to. And I believe that Houston, "officially", has a 3 foot rule, but no one observes it.

    Now in LA it might be very different. But in Houston, just by buying a girl a drink, it's very easy to get many/if not most girls to sit in your lap and talk for a while(for multiple songs).

    So, basically, I'm saying that it's regional. If it's common and easy for a guy to get extras in Houston for $100, and free talk, then why not. He would be silly to pass it up!

    On the other hand, if in LA a girl could make the same money with no contact and no freebies(like sitting in a guy's lap and talking for free), then she would be silly to do anything extra.

    It's just like any business as we know. There are market forces and regional differences. Strategy is somewhat determined by these factors. For both the customer and the stripper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    $20 per song.
    Yes!! I was afraid that the s'mores would mean an extra charge from you.

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    I like to cuddle and chat in the vip room, but around here, most of the clubs don't have them.
    I have one girl that I see that we spend 98% of our time in the LD booth cuddling and chatting. Occasionally, she will get up and do some sort of move, such as a few second grind, boobs in the face, etc. I always pay her for whatever songs we are back in the booth for, and tip her as well. This is at an airdance club. She also occasionally works at a high contact club. There, she splits it about half and half between cuddling, chatting time, and high contact LDing time.
    I also have a few girls that I would get large blocks of dances with at a time, like 10 songs and more, and primarily at higher contact clubs. I don't mind at all if the girl takes a break for a few songs in the middle to cuddle and chat, on my dime.
    Since Thanksgiving, I have acquired an ATF, and have just been going to see her. She works between clubs that have a vip, and with private booths for individual songs. At the vip room club, we will do 4 or 5 hour blocks, primarily just cuddling and chatting. At the other club, we chat a lot while out on the floor. In the booth, she primarily dances, but we also cuddle some, and also slow dance together. She plays her own CDs in the booth, so we are always insured to hear 'our song'. I always offer to pay for whatever songs we are back for, regardless of what we are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John View Post
    whats the rate you charge if I brought a sleeping bag, tent, campout stove and s'mores into the VIP room?

    I have seen a guy bring a sleeping bag into the VIP room, i didn`t even ask because i really didnt want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    Ya know what? I would rather dance for a high school dropout that doesn't have an expectation of extras than dance for a guy with a graduate degree that thinks I should give him extras because he is paying me to be with him. Keep your $100, I don't need it that bad.
    EXACTLY!

    figure it out buddy. we don't want to date you; we just want your money. the harder you expect us to work for it, the less we're going to like you. intelligence doesn't even factor into that equation.

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    i personaly don't like "cuddling". it's far more intimate to me than just dancing. i only do it with the right customers. don't get me wrong, my dances are "intimate" with eye contact/touching etc. ... but there's just something that feels uncomfortable about snuggling with someone besides my boyfriend.

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    There are many dancers willing to cuddle and let a guy get free mileage fefore asking for dances - its called marketing. When the guy sees other guys looking at them he knows he better buy some dances as the other guys want to dump the gals they are with and get her.

    When I c this and the gal leaves the guy (assuming she is one I really want) then I pursue her on the floor saying "hi, my names Parker (stage name) - saw you across the room, you are so incredibly beautiful. If you are not occupied I would like a dance - or more than one if ok (sorta like an innocent newbie). But come see me at my table and let me buy you a drink so we can get acquainted." Usually this works like a charm and they come right over.

    When I go to LA I will be working at an engineering house near the Torrance area. I am currious how LA clubs compare to Houston. I will be spending one week a month in LA with evenings free and lots of money to burn at SC (they will pay my hourly fee at OT just sitting on the plane to LA) and staying by myself in a plush suite (unless I find a girl). I also plan to visit the beach - I really like bikini girls, especially if they are Cali gals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester_John View Post
    Yes!! I was afraid that the s'mores would mean an extra charge from you.
    smores are a discount with me! bring it on

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    That's not marketing honey, that's a girl that does shit for free. Any dancer worth a damn doesn't do ANYTHING like that for free.
    Actually it is marketing. Same way Armani puts free samples in magazines and restaurants give free samples. There are many instances of this practice in many businesses.

    I'm sorry, but I don't take kindly to the latter part of your post, because I know alot of dancers that do this. I've come to respect them and for you to belittle them so casually is... I just don't appreciate it. Starplayer is in a different market, as a Houston resident myself I can tell you the culture here is vastly different. However work is work and the tactics girls use in our market in order to get by should not be belittled because they are different from the tactics in other markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    Yopu'll be furious if a gal expects to be paid for her time? Isn't that what YOU get paid for at work???
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but this is something that makes me wonder alot. Do you really expect to be paid for your time? I'm a contractor myself and I think dancers are in the same boat as me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take pride in the services I provide and differentiate myself from those that are paid hourly. Having said that I would imagine that many take pride in what they do and saying they get paid for time.... I dunno I just don't get that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    Actually it is marketing. Same way Armani puts free samples in magazines and restaurants give free samples. There are many instances of this practice in many businesses.

    I'm sorry, but I don't take kindly to the latter part of your post, because I know alot of dancers that do this. I've come to respect them and for you to belittle them so casually is... I just don't appreciate it. Starplayer is in a different market, as a Houston resident myself I can tell you the culture here is vastly different. However work is work and the tactics girls use in our market in order to get by should not be belittled because they are different from the tactics in other markets.
    I apologize if I belittled anybody. Let me put it this way, MY time is money, and I don't do shit for free. Nothing. If you want to even talk to me, you are going to pay me. My security on Friday night told a guy to either give me some damn money or to keep on walking, I have shit to do and people that are lined up to pay me for my time. If I'm a bitch for it, then so be it. I'm quite happy working the way I work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    I apologize if I belittled anybody. Let me put it this way, MY time is money, and I don't do shit for free. Nothing. If you want to even talk to me, you are going to pay me. My security on Friday night told a guy to either give me some damn money or to keep on walking, I have shit to do and people that are lined up to pay me for my time. If I'm a bitch for it, then so be it. I'm quite happy working the way I work.
    i'm the same. apart from my basic hustle, you don't get anything from me unless you pay. i don't go to work to make friends and meet guys and have intelligent conversation, i go to work to make money. i'm not going to sit on some guys lap to try to get him to buy a dance, because there's a risk that he might not buy, and get something for free. i'd rather miss out on one dance because i didn't sit on some guys lap beforehand, than get all friendly with 5 guys for free.

    when we're in VIP, you pay a set price for my time, and regardless of whether you want me to get naked and shake my booty, or sit on your lap and talk, it doesn't change.

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