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    Default I'm not sexy enough on the floor!

    I've always felt this way but for the first time a dancer mentioned it to me, she tells me I'm amazing on stage, that I grab everyone's attention and I basically take over the place (most of the time our podiums are doubles or triples), that she never realised how sexy I was...

    But the moment I get off stage I turn back into this cute little girl...which is why my income usually only comes from podiums and I find it hard to sell shows.

    What is it?! Why I can't I pull off what I can make people believe on stage on the floor as well?!
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    Default Re: I'm not sexy enough on the floor!

    This is a selling business. Meaning once you get off stage, it is your duty to IMMEDIATELY approach the guys who gave you the most tips and eye contact, make some small talk and talk them into buying dances from you.

    Dance sales rarely come to the dancer. She MUST make them happen.

    If you are not asking guys to buy shows from you, you won't sell any shows. Guys aren't going to come to you, right?

    Study the Hustle Hut threads, and apply some of the techniques in there and I bet your floor sales increase.

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    The problem is the way my club is, tables are set up around the podium, and because they're the only tables, girls are allowed to approach guys that sit around the podium. I've noticed that whenever I've got a guy completely engrossed with me on the podium and handing me over dollar after dollar, a dancer goes and sits at his table. Once that happens, I'm not allowed to sit there. It's happening all the time, last night, there were so many girls that when I got off the podium there was not one guy on his own.

    Sadly most of the dance's I get are from guys coming up to me or ones that ask me as I'm doing my podium.

    I guess the way my club is doesn't help me much..
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    Default Re: I'm not sexy enough on the floor!

    When I'm on stage, and I have to pick up my money, I go to the 2 guys who tipped me the most, and while I say: "thank you for your tip handsome" I also ask them if they would like a lap dance. I hope this helps.

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    If you're getting all that attention on stage, then sell your shows from the stage. As soon as you get a guy all engrossed with you, introduce yourself and ask him if he'd like you to visit with him or do a private show for you when you're finished with stage. If he agrees, and some other girl approaches him, oftentimes he'll tell her he's waiting for you and she'll go away. If she doesn't go away, you can just walk right up and ask him if he's ready now - because he ALREADY agreed to be with you. We do this all the time in the states and it's perfectly acceptable, IF the guy has already agreed you just go right up, excuse yourself to her and politely tell her he's already agreed to a show with you. Take him by the hand and lead him off to the show area.

    If you feel this is too pushy, here's your justification: When other girls see a guy is all turned on by YOUR stage show, and then they approach him, they are basically feeding off YOUR work to sell him a dance. Crowding YOUR game. So it's up to you to stop letting them crowd you out. You don't have to be rude, but sometimes you have to be a bit aggressive

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    Default Re: I'm not sexy enough on the floor!

    I agree with Bridgett.

    I consider it rude for another dancer to approach a customer who's sitting stage side and obviously watching ME (and I thought everyone else had that same rule?)
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    Default Re: I'm not sexy enough on the floor!

    Quote Originally Posted by mia_bella View Post
    The problem is the way my club is, tables are set up around the podium, and because they're the only tables, girls are allowed to approach guys that sit around the podium. I've noticed that whenever I've got a guy completely engrossed with me on the podium and handing me over dollar after dollar, a dancer goes and sits at his table. Once that happens, I'm not allowed to sit there. It's happening all the time, last night, there were so many girls that when I got off the podium there was not one guy on his own.

    Sadly most of the dance's I get are from guys coming up to me or ones that ask me as I'm doing my podium.

    I guess the way my club is doesn't help me much..
    1) There are all kinds of sexy, honey. Believe me - being a "cute little girl" doesn't hurt your sales. Sigh. I remember being cute and little. Those were the days.

    2) Sadly, this sometimes happens. I've worked clubs where is okay to approach the rail, and it is just an extension of every other spot in the club - like sometimes you work a customer for 10 or 20 minutes and then have to go on stage, and he takes off with another girl. Sucks for you, but happens. And yes, I know how it can sometimes seem like they are doing it ON PURPOSE, but in reality, they see a guy, they try to sell the guy. If there is no rule against approaching the stageside, you can't "break" other rules regarding approaching a customer that is already with a girl - essentially that is saying that one girl working to the rules in a way that advantages her justified you BREAKING the rules to advantage you.
    2b) What Bridgette suggested is fine - if you are making the sale before the other girl is sitting there (which I think she meant). Expecting other girls to keep up with who sold what is expecting a little much (like how are they supposed to know you already sold a guy?) and expecting the customers to be blindly loyal or to KNOW what the presence of another girl at the table means is also expecting a little much. Interfering when you've already made the sale is fine; just don't interfere IN ORDER to make the sale.

    3) It doesn't HAVE to be right away. You can go up later and say "remember me? I was onstage about 30 minutes ago. I was the one that looked like me, but naked." And that way you give them the opportunity to say (and remember) "Yeah, you were SO good" or whatever variation. Very few times does it happen that you get the guy so hard during your stage dance that he makes decisions that he wouldn't make 30 minutes later. And if you do get him that hard during your stage dance - chances are good he's yours for the night anyway.

    Sidenote; everything I just about girls interfering and not knowing notwithstanding, I very nearly got my back up the past couple weeks. Story: I only work once a week and for the last two weeks I worked there were customers waiting on me. One actually came in to see me, and girls told him that I wasn't there yet and to not bother waiting; the other I chatted up at the bar, and then went on stage, and when he told another girl that he was waiting on me she rolled her eyes and said "It's a strip club. You don't have to wait for her." Now, in neither of these scenarios did I lose anything, so instead of getting pissy I opted for the zen approach ("I don't have to care about this. I am not the courtesy police. Nobody is paying me to ensure that everyone is polite.") But still - for, like, a second - I was really mad! Because really "I'm waiting on _____" is an absolutely sure way to make me leave. Now, in light of what I always say about not owning customers, is this unreasonable? Am I a nasty hypocrite? I would appreciate it if you guys limited yourselves to "hypocrite" without the nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    2b) What Bridgette suggested is fine - if you are making the sale before the other girl is sitting there (which I think she meant). Expecting other girls to keep up with who sold what is expecting a little much (like how are they supposed to know you already sold a guy?) and expecting the customers to be blindly loyal or to KNOW what the presence of another girl at the table means is also expecting a little much. Interfering when you've already made the sale is fine; just don't interfere IN ORDER to make the sale.
    Yes yes. I was saying to try and sell the guy from stage *before* anyone else approaches. This way if he's agreed already you have every right to come take him away from the other girl who came over after you sold him. Just be polite and let her know he already agreed to a show with you, to avoid pissing her off. If you just get him to agree to have you come "visit" him when you're offstage, and some girl is sitting there when you're done, you can still go over to him, thank him with a quick little peck on the cheek and a "thanks sweety, I'll come back later when you're not busy". If he's that interested in you he'll turn the other girl down, she'll leave, and then you can go get him. Or sometimes she'll leave on her own

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