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    I don't think this is the right forum. I thought there was a "news" forum but I couldn't find it. Anyway, since I'm a customer I'll put it here. Mods can move somewhere if they deem appropriate.

    The link is a story about a 17-year-old kid who got 10 years in prison in Georgia for getting a consensual blow job at a party from a 15-year-old kid. Videotaped, I guess. And 16 is the supposed "magic age" in Georgia.

    The kid is in prison. For a blowjob from another teenager. He should have gotten his hand shaked. Injustice like this makes me sick, and I put it here because I know from time to time I'll see stuff on here about how archaic sex laws can affect your work.



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    He should have his hand "shaked" for getting a blowjob? Why? Let's really think about that. If getting a blowjob is some kind of accomplishment, why? What has he accomplished?

    Typically we think "way to go" when a guy does this, because we assume that he had to do something pretty special to get the girl to perform a sexual act. (Unlike the case in question, where the girl actually initiated). The reason we assume this is because we assume, by default, that the sex act is something the girl doesn't want to do, but something that he convinces her to do somehow, by either his stellar negotiating skills, or just by being so damn cool.

    Just a cursory examination of where archaic, unjust sex laws come from and how the attitudes that create the laws are, more or less, the same.
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    Wow. This is soo sad. He was a good kid, with a bright future ahead of him. How sad.

    When he was a senior in high school, he received oral sex from a 10th grader. He was 17. She was 15. Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act. But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.
    So its ok to have sex, but not oral?? Why? That is fucked up!!

    10 years with no possibility of parole? for getting a blowjob from a girl 2 years younger than him, and she initiated it, and was consenting? Thats more time than some rapists get!!

    Wilson refused to admit to being a child molester. If he pled to or was convicted of any charge that put him on the sex offender registry, he couldn't live at home with his younger sister. He wouldn't accept that, so he waited for his trial.
    He isnt a child molester, he had oral sex with a girl only 2 years younger. Now he's gonna be branded with "child molester" his whole life. When he finally does get out of jail, how will he ever find a good job with that on his record??


    Oh..and then the story gets even better. A local white female teacher was found guilty of having sex with a student. A REAL case of child molestation. She got 90 days. This kid gets head from a classmate and gets 10 years.



    Wow...IM gonna stop reading now. This story really pisses me off. They ruined this kids entire life.

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    wow! theyre only 2 years a part? 10 years? wut the fuck?! i mean shit, when i was 15 i was messing around with guys who were 17!

    so in georgia, the legal age for sex stufff is 16?

    thats so stupid. horriable. 10 years?! i hope people are protesting and all in georgia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    He should have his hand "shaked" for getting a blowjob? Why?

    Well, I intended that as sarcasm. Sorry if that detracts from my main point that it's insane and sickening that he got 10 years for this, with which I presume you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyman View Post
    Well, I intended that as sarcasm. Sorry if that detracts from my main point that it's insane and sickening that he got 10 years for this, with which I presume you agree.
    I do agree; and I don't think it detracts from the main point. I think it is an interesting illustration off why such unsophisticated laws were passed in the first place.

    I am actually currently wondering why the case was prosecuted - I mean they can't be prosecuting every instance with similar facts. The article is not terribly informative on that front.
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    The Lounge is probably where you'd want to put this. We'll leave it up to Rhi.

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    Man it takes a lot to outrage me, but this does it.
    They just ruined this kids life. I hope he gets released this year and somehow manages to pull his life back together just to spite these idiots.

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    That's horrifying. Every guy I saw at that age was at least a year or two older and even the jerkiest one that got to the finish line didn't deserve prison. There should be a pardon for this kid.

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    Well, what do you expect from the nation that actually impeached a president for a blowjob?

    The Puritans founded this country, and their legacy is alive and well. It's pathetic. Poor guy... sounds like one hell of a party.

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    Wow Georgia way to prioritize(sp?) your criminals. I wonder what kind of sentences they have for rapists, murderers, child molesters, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Well, what do you expect from the nation that actually impeached a president for a blowjob?
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    that never happened!

    I have to agree with Jenny...why him? why this law now? We know this type of thing is going on all over the place.

    Maybe there is something else that they want to put him in jail for and are jsut reaching, somewhat like Al Capone and Heidi Fleiss being prosecuted for tax evasion.

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    I'd be willing to bet if he smacked her around in a jealous rage that he would have been put on probation because he was an "upstanding student" in all other areas of life.

    Why did the North fight the succession of the South again? It seems like they are from a whole different planet sometimes, not just another region of the same country with the racism and the bible belt laws and whatnot.


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    so here's a strange twist that I didn't see until clicking on the new link:

    He's black.

    This raises two questions:
    1. how many of the other guys were black or white or some other ethnicity?
    2. What color was the girl?

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    ^^^ I had the exact same thought when I saw those pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily View Post
    that never happened!

    I have to agree with Jenny...why him? why this law now? We know this type of thing is going on all over the place.

    Maybe there is something else that they want to put him in jail for and are jsut reaching, somewhat like Al Capone and Heidi Fleiss being prosecuted for tax evasion.
    They only thing I can work out from the article (although it is really not particularly informative on the prosecution) is that a girl thought* she was raped; this is sheer conjecture, but it occurs to me that the prosecution could have just thought it was distasteful to liquor a girl up in order to fuck her on a camera, when that was clearly not something she would have agreed to normally. I'm not sure if that conjecture is giving too much or too little credit. There are comments that he makes about being embarrassed and ashamed of his actions on the tape, but they aren't really contextualized.

    *whether or not this is a legitimate claim is actually contentious. So I go with "thought" because I don't actually feel like contending either side.
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    so here's a strange twist that I didn't see until clicking on the new link:

    He's black.

    This raises two questions:
    1. how many of the other guys were black or white or some other ethnicity?
    2. What color was the girl?
    They said in the story that the jury that put him away was 4 whites, 3 blacks, and he lost 4-3.

    They also said that a white teacher in the same area was found ot be having sex with a student. She only got 90 days in prison.

    The reason is.....

    Sex with a minor is a misdemenor, while ORAL sex is a felony.
    But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.
    I dont get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fancygirl View Post
    so here's a strange twist that I didn't see until clicking on the new link:

    He's black.

    This raises two questions:
    1. how many of the other guys were black or white or some other ethnicity?
    2. What color was the girl?
    I don't think the other guys race is at issue; they were all prosecuted and ALL offered a deal. Dude was actually offered the same deal AFTER he was convicted. He just didn't want to take it. He also won't ask for clemency because it would mean admitting guilt (despite encouraging noises from the prosecutor).

    The girl's race could have something to do with it, if she is caucasion - a lot of people get real worked up about a white girl giving a black boy a blowjob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn
    They said in the story that the jury that put him away was 4 whites, 3 blacks, and he lost 4-3.
    A jury has to have 12 members, doesn't it? Anyway, it has to be a unanimous decision to convict. A verdict such as you described would be a hung jury and would require another trial.

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    poor kid. thats fucked.

    thats the saddest thing ive read online in awhile. it makes me angry, surely theres something that can be done?

    ive always thought it should be the 'victim' who decides the punishment. if they get raped, they should say ,within reason, how long the rapist gets. or the family of a murder victim has a say in how long the murderer gets etc etc.

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    Jenny-- agreed. I don't think it has so much to do with his race as hers.
    I got the impression that she was the only girl. Obviously a lot can be inferred here, but either she arrived liqured up or she arrived sober. I can't imagine a girl wanting to hang out with ALL football guys at a hotel AND drinking and not being okay with sex-- now, notice I'm not saying rape is okay at ALL; I just think that most any girl would realize that things would get sexual with a sausage fest and alcohol.

    He also didn't want to take the plea because then he wouldn't be able to live at home with his kid sister. I think he's probably hoping to have his judgement overturned or something... yikes, this whole situation blows (metaphorically, though I did notice the pun after I wrote it.)

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    ooops, according to pan dah's story there were more girls there.

    also, there was sodomy in addition to oral sex. Damn! Can you IMAGINE anal sex at fifteen? Either she's practiced or she was REALLY drunk. *sphincter squeezes up and runs away. FancyGirl looks at retreating sphincter* And I'm one of the girls who likes anal.

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    This is entirely and one hundred percent, fucked up.

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    Here's a true story that happened in Georgia in the early 90's. Just south of Atlanta near Stockbridge.

    A very close friend of mine (guy) was 16 and had sex with a 15 year old girl who lived in his neighborhood. Completely consensual. She had sex with several guys in the neighborhood, she was very sexually active to say the least.

    2 years pass. He is now 18 and graduated.

    One afternoon his former football coach shows up at his door. His coach (with whom he was very close throughout high school) has given up coaching and is now a detective with the local police department. He asks John if he had in fact engaged in sex with Sarah Doe back when they were in high school together. John answers "Yes"... Coach then takes John to the station where John happily answers all the questions thrown at him.

    He was taken into custody and charged with Statutory Rape. After a trial he was found guilty.

    Turns out Sarah kept a diary detailing most of her sexual exploits and unfortunately for John, his name was the only one she bothered mentioning in her novel... Her dad found the diary (2 years later) and was so furious that he called authorities two years after the fact to press charges against John. Sarah admitted that it was consensual. Unfortunately for John, Sarah being 15 at the time made it a felony sex crime. Consensual or not.

    He narrowly avoided a lengthy jail sentence but received hefty probation and community service and a lot of other crap.

    His entire life John has been an upstanding individual who works hard and hasn't been in any trouble more than a few traffic tickets. Today, in his mid 30's he is still labeled a sex offender. Whenever he fills out paperwork or applies for permits he has to include that title next to his name. He has to explain in great detail exactly what the facts regarding the case were just so he can renew his permits each year..

    That shit is garbage.

    I can't even imagine the insult of 10 years jail time added to that injury.. Poor kid. When he gets out of jail he will be a much worse threat to society than he is now.

    Georgia is batting a thousand these days. 2 weeks ago DNA testing reversed a decision that sent a man away for rape. After he spent 21 years in prison..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Typically we think "way to go" when a guy does this, because we assume that he had to do something pretty special to get the girl to perform a sexual act. (Unlike the case in question, where the girl actually initiated). The reason we assume this is because we assume, by default, that the sex act is something the girl doesn't want to do, but something that he convinces her to do somehow, by either his stellar negotiating skills, or just by being so damn cool.

    Just a cursory examination of where archaic, unjust sex laws come from and how the attitudes that create the laws are, more or less, the same.
    I'm a little late in the game on this one, but just wanted to say . This is right on.

    It's absolutely criminal what was done to this boy. The goal of sex crime legislation is NOT to protect sweet little children from big, sweaty, mean-looking pedophiles. It is to legislate morality. But the fact that such pedophiles do unfortunately exist allows the right wing to legislate their racial/sexual morality. And citizens allow it because "well, better safe than sorry with MY kids..."

    Ignorance.

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