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    This kind of customer is a tough one. They repeatedly like to say they know they are being taken advantage of, or that they are in a fantasy world, or that they are being scammed. I had not one but two of these tonight and thought i'd look to see what was on SW about this topic.. found nothing. (maybe i missed one) So, i want to start a discussion about these kind of guys.

    During a lap dance, when i said that i was enjoying myself (i was, and i'd also rather be with him than a douche bag or perv), "you tell everyone that!"
    ... and so it begins...

    During VIP dance, "I know I'm being scammed! I say this, knowing full-well that I'm paying you to say nice things."


    I found the best combative technique is to truly ignore it, and nod knowingly and understandingly as they say whatever they are trying to say (2nd guy). With the first guy, however, I tried to truly combat it, say that he was wrong and i genuinely enjoyed spending time with him.. clear SS. What do you do when you come across a custy like this? Do you take one of my 2 ways out? do you ditch him? I ditched custy number one because he annoyed the shit out of me. i coulda had him for a much longer VIP, but i didn't have it in me.

    *ready, set, discuss...*

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    Default Re: "i know im being scammed"

    Usually I reassure them and that is enough. Then maybe act a bit offended in a cute way if they don't believe me. Then I tell them some concrete true things like, "you smell nice" or if that is not appropriate, "I like your hair/shirt/whatever they have going on that is cool."
    I take it very easy on the "I am having fun" talk. Instead I say what is actually true. In your case I may tell that customer that the other customers was being disrespectful and I only want to dance for you.
    I try to find SOMETHING in everyone I dance for that I can truthfully compliment them on. This WORKS for me.

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    I usually make a joke out of it and it seems to work well. Like go WAY over the top about it to make it work.

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    "it's all about the money for you"
    "well baby i have to make money at work but i wish i could come here and only dance for u coz i like u and its so much better to dance for someone i actually like such as yourself"

    "i bet u say that to all the guys"
    "no way honey I only have eyes for you"

    You know make it a bit light hearted, I mean they are paying for a lap dance and they expect it to be real? Just try to take the seriousness out of it, I think it looks more genuine to fool around and make a joke than reassure them.

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    If he's saying that crap during a dance I just laugh at him and say something along the lines of "if you really thought that you wouldn't be paying me right now". That kind of thing usually works really well to shut them up. Sometimes they buy more dances, sometimes not. I don't give a damn either way....*and I think THAT is the reason they sometimes keep buying.

    If he says it BEFORE buying I just laugh at him and walk off. My time is better spent on better customers. Paying customers. My sanity is worth more than his money, and frankly I can find more money with less bullshit elsewhere.

    This attitude is the key to my money-making. I know most of yall don't like to hear "just walk away" but seriously, I make more money by walking away from assholes than I ever would by putting up with their bullshit (putting myself in a shit mood) and trying to sell them on something they obviously don't want to be sold.

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    i get this AAAAALLLLLL the time! i say something nice about a guy and hes like, youre just saying that, you say that to all the guys, etc etc

    if they say "youre just saying that" i reply with "you know, whatever i say in this club is taken as a lie, so i just tell the truth because no one believes me anyway" and smile. they usually go oh yeh, youre right and they shut up about it.

    if they say "you say that to all the guys" i reply with "only the guys who (enter whatever it is i said in the first place" and smile and they laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    "it's all about the money for you"
    "well baby i have to make money at work but i wish i could come here and only dance for u coz i like u and its so much better to dance for someone i actually like such as yourself"
    i say this all the time
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    Default Re: "i know im being scammed"

    I get it too, or the self-conscious ones that think you are judging them for being there. "You know, I don't know what I'm paying you for, I can get this at home for free, AND get laid after...."

    Oh really? Then I sure as fuck don't know why you're here, either, buddddy.


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    I too have sometimes been known to respond to non-payers who spew this kind of crap with something like "yeah I'm a stripper so everything I say is a lie, right?" along with an appropriate stern look.

    That shuts them up. They'll often sputter and stutter and start to backpeddle but by that point I couldn't care less what they have to say and I'm already walking away to find a better customer. More often though, I just walk away without a word. It does wonders for my sanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I too have sometimes been known to respond to non-payers who spew this kind of crap with something like "yeah I'm a stripper so everything I say is a lie, right?" along with an appropriate stern look.

    That shuts them up. They'll often sputter and stutter and start to backpeddle but by that point I couldn't care less what they have to say and I'm already walking away to find a better customer. More often though, I just walk away without a word. It does wonders for my sanity.




    I like that one. It's like when you're trying to pull the race card on someone. "Oh, I see how it is. Just because I'm Mexican, you're not gonna reverse my overdraft fee even tho you just did it for Blondie over there. I see what kind of establishment you're running here." I totally used that at the bank the other day and the girl got so flustered she could barely type fast enough to give me back my money. LOL.

    I'm so bad . . . I felt guilty afterwards but it was still funny . . . damn bank always taking my money . . .
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    Um, not exactly like pulling the race card. No, not like that at all. Just calling them very directly on their stereotyping bullshit. These guys have it in their heads that all strippers are lying scammers (and have the gall to throw it in my face) and I occasionally like to shove their stupidity squarely into their faces

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    I usually tell them straight up, "How is it a scam? You obviously came here to be entertained, so just like any other place, you gotta pay to play."

    or since I work in Tampa, I'll say something like "Well it's not that different compared to Busch Gardens. Do you go there and complain about paying to play the games? Only difference is our games and rides are more fun."

    Usually stops the whining and complaining.

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    The ignore method works best. Trying to defend yourself doesn't help. I just smile, rubbed their neck or something, and kept going.

    I've gotten dances out of guys who said it before spending too. But mainly because they thought I DIDN'T get flustered over their comments. I'd just respond, "look buddy, you're in an SC, just enjoy it for what it is (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)

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    I don't get flustered by them, I just prefer to give them the piss-off

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    I've tried different methods to this approach, but found that I had the best success with a wide-eyed, eyelash-batting lewd grin, and drawling in my best Southern accent, "Sweetheart, do I look like the kind of girl who could lie to you about something like that?" None of them had the guts to say yes.

    I also would occasionally shrug and laugh and say, "You pay to go to the movies, don't you? But this show is more fun because it's MUCH CLOSER." (Lean in and say that last bit in his ear.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I too have sometimes been known to respond to non-payers who spew this kind of crap with something like "yeah I'm a stripper so everything I say is a lie, right?" along with an appropriate stern look.
    i have said that. makes me giggle inside to mindfuck them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim_C View Post
    I'll say something like "Well it's not that different compared to Busch Gardens. Do you go there and complain about paying to play the games? Only difference is our games and rides are more fun."
    nice. i really like that.

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    The ignore method works best. Trying to defend yourself doesn't help. I just smile, rubbed their neck or something, and kept going.
    that's what i think too.

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    I also would occasionally shrug and laugh and say, "You pay to go to the movies, don't you? But this show is more fun because it's MUCH CLOSER." (Lean in and say that last bit in his ear.)
    i like this a LOT yek. nice.

    Love it!

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    I usually say, "You're absolutely right, you may as well give me your pin number and the last four digits of your social right now," with a big grin or a wink and put my hand out to take theirs for a dance.
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    Some losers say shit to make them feel like a victim, and that we take advantage of them. They say that we just want their money. Whats funny is they are right!

    I say crap like:
    "I just want to get naked for you."
    "You make me sound like some sort of scam artist." (looking genuinly hurt)
    "What kind of girl do you take me for?" (insert irresistable smile here)

    I dont usually waste too much time with these guys. I find IF they do decided to get a dance, they arnt going for more than one. So i have to assess the situation and see if its worth spending the 15 min convincing them they want a dance, or if its better to just move on.

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    I only say something if it's a customer I'm in VIP with or someone who's buying multiple dances. Usually it goes like this:

    I give them a compliment and they say "you say that to everyone", then I say "no, I don't, if I didn't think you blah, blah, then I just wouldn't say anything. My motto is, if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all". That has ALWAYS worked, at least they've all acted like it did.

    But as I said, I will not waste my time with the ones that I know aren't going to spend much because they're emotionally draining and high maintanence.

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    I think that it is ALWAYS a waste of time to try to change a customer's opinion of you, the club, and everything in between. If they really think they're being scammed, they are not going to change their mind because you tell them to.

    I would RUN away from customers like that if they haven't spent any money yet. If they have, who cares, you allready got their money. Don't push the issue, just ignore it, and try to make it as painless as possible.

    I would say something along the lines of, "Well baby if this is what you're paying me for, you better get your money's worth" while smiling, and then start dancing. I'd rather dance for the whole hour long VIP than have to talk to someone who's pissing me off.

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    Some responses:

    "I'm not here to break your balls, I'm here to help you lighten them."

    "Who sh*t in your Wheaties this morning? 'Cause I only just met you now..."

    "Is this what the invisible leprechaun/angel on your shoulder has been telling you? 'Cause I promise the VIP Lounge is leprechaun/angel-proof...Honest..." (Cue sympathetic nodding)....

    Honestly though, I try to avoid these guys, it smacks of overweening emotional issues that I don't feel like dealing with....

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    "oh look, if youre going to whine, then im not going to waste my time, im here to have fun, you should try it sometime"
    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    you know, and they say men dont play mind games...
    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    I never really thought about it. I hear it sometimes, but I dont care enough. Im not one to dole out complements if they're undue. If you get one from me its always genuine.

    I think I'm in the wrong biz cause I dont like stroking egos--its exhausting.
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    If you're having a party and need strippers, email me with the details and any questions you have. Thanks!

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    The kind of guy it sounds like you're talking about, is the kind of guy who knows you are flattering him for his money, is kind of upset that he's blowing money just to be flattered and given a boner, but is also still enjoying himself. He's saying, "I know you're just saying that cause I'm paying you, etc." because he really does know it. That's what it sounds like anyway. He just wants you to know that he's not like all the other idiots who don't realize it. So I would think you should say something like, "You're paying me, and I'm giving you an enjoyable time. You take that for what it is cause you're smarter than the average guy, obviously. You're still having just as much fun as those dumbasses though!"

    Sounds like he just wants to feel like he's smarter than everyone else, even though he's still forking over the cash which makes him look dumb.

    As far as just not believing compliments, everyone's covered that pretty well.

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    honestly, smile and nod. That usually works. leave if money declines.

    i deal with male insecurity in my personal life, i won''t do it itc.

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