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    Default what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    at my club customers have the option of buying a block of time in a slightly more private area then the vip room or they can get a cr, but either way the girl gets the same amount of money. she also gets a small house fee deduction for selling one cr, but if she sells more there is no additional credit.

    in my experience and under these circumstances, cr's seem to be a lot more trouble then they're worth because the customers almost always become much more difficult to manage. the other night i had a particularly bad incident with a group of big spending regulars and got no assistance whatsoever from the bouncers because they didn't want to offend the customers and lose their business.

    if security is willing to sell me out and not even protect me from being sexually assaulted and i don't get paid more for it anyway, is there any advantage that i am not seeing in doing a cr?

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Doesn't sound like it!
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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Nope. But how fucked up is that the bouncers didn'y help you out? Isn't that their job? Your safety and well being should not be compromised because they don't want to lose business.
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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Lazy and/or cowardly bouncers are working my last nerve lately. I'm so sorry this happened to you!

    As to the cost/benefit of Champagne Rooms, I've debated that myself lately. I wonder what would happen if I just went on strike and refused to do them?

    *Takes aim, pulls trigger, blows off toe*, that's what. Still. It SO often seems like more trouble than it's worth.
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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    If you don't make anymore money and if it's way too much trouble then don't sell them. I think that if the dancer sells something more expensive the dancer should get more money for it. Like in my club they have 3 different types of VIP's you can sell, you can get an hour in a semi-private setting, the dancer gets $300/hr but pays $15/hr to the house and the customer pays $25 entrance fee for all night, then we have the private room where the dancer gets $300/hr but doesn't pay a rental fee and the customer pays $200/hr for the room and then we have the Penthouse suite which the dancer still only gets $300/hr and no rental fee and the customer pays $500/hr or $200 per guy whichever is more. I think the dancer should get at least $350-$400/hr for the private room and $450-$500/hr for the Penthouse. The way I see it is if the customer can afford that much they can afford more for the dancer.

    If you're not benefiting from it then don't do it!!!! Look out for yourself in this business because nobody else will do it for you!

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Agreed, it doesn't sound like it's worth it. If the manager asks why you aren't selling champagne rooms, tell him outright that it's because the bouncers aren't looking out for you, and it's not worth the risk to your safety, especially since you aren't making extra money. Don't let them railroad you.

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    No point selling it if you don't get more for it. I would always stress to the guys that they won't get anymore in the CR than they'll get in VIP, except a higher bill.

    The only reason to upsell something more expensive is if YOU are getting more money too.


    I worked one club where I never even mentioned VIP/CR's to customers at all because by the time it was all said and done, I made more money just selling the guy more dances in the booth. The guy spent less money and got a good dance, I made more money with less bullshit. Everyone's happy (except the club, but ehh, why should I care about them? )

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    if you're not making more money, don't bother. if you're not making more money AND you're putting up with more BS, definitely don't bother. i've never once mentioned the CR at my club. if i make my own VIP deals, the custy spends less and i make more. go figure.

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    ^^^ Yeppers! one of my favorite floor managers (so sarcasstic here) was flat out shocked when I refused the CR. And my custy asked why, I told him the truth...you spend more and I make less. Tah Dah!




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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    thanks girls

    that's what i thought too, but i wanted to make sure i wasn't missing some important hustling tactic or anything...

    up to now i've never actually tried to Sell cr's, but if a customer requested one i would agree to it. but i don't think i will from now. maybe i'll think about it if he offers more money for me and pays up front so i can walk out if i need to...even then i don't know. i think i'm a little traumatized

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    I agree with all others. And even if you were getting hundrands of dollars more for selling a cr show, if the stupid bouncers don't look out for you just because their afraid to loose customers then you shouldn't sell them at all. If your security is compromised at all then it is just not worth it.

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Definitely not. If a customer asks for a CR, tell him what you can give him for that amount of money in dances. Then try to get the amount he was going to spend in VIP up front for dances.

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    Ive never pushed cr for that reason. Yes its more money but at what cost? When bouncers arent watching it can be dangerous.

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    well, in spite of all this, i did a cr tonight.

    after a few dances i got the impression he was more the sit and chat type, so when he asked to to get a room i agreed. fortunately, i was right. it was the most enjoyable cr i've ever done (except maybe the one where i got to learn to salsa dance for an hour ) and he tipped me well.

    still, i will be very selective about who i do crs with...but i'm glad i had a good experience

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    Default Re: what's the point of doing a cr under these circumstances?

    I wouldn't do it under those circumstances.

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