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    OMG... this really pisses me off... Im sure you Americans have heard of this awful bitch..

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    I hadn't, but I have now!

    Wow.

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    Who was dumb enough to knock the bitch up is what I'd like to know.

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    Americans never hear of our scary scary serial killers. It's weird, because we breed some fucked up ones.

    Stupid Karla Homolka, her dead eyes have always scared the shit out of me.


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    She's a serial killer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PookaShell View Post
    She's a serial killer?
    She helped her husband Paul Bredardo capture, rape and kill teenage children. She even helped him raped and hill her own sister... while she stood back and watched and video tapped the entire thing.

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    it says she drug raped and killed her own sister???/ WTF???

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    She and her psycho ex are evil personified. If I were the father of one of those girls she killed, I'd have paid someone to kill her for me.

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    Here is the story of them...

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    Holy fuck.

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    I always found it a little weird that people find it SO hard to believe that Karla Homolka was a battered woman. I mean I certainly don't know that she isn't just a complete psycho, but there is incontrovertible evidence that she was abused (there are hospital records and photos); and her husband WAS a serial rapist and murderer - I mean she would certainly have reason to be afraid of him. I'd be afraid of him. That said, I think there is something a little off about the way she loves to pose for the camera. It seems like she ought to be a little more... ashamed?

    Again, I don't know that she isn't just as psychotic as Bernardo; but her story is not THAT out there (that she was battered and coerced, and that she accidentally killed her sister. I mean, if you know your husband is capable of brutal rape and murder and has set his sight on your sister, you could viably think that you are protecting her by drugging her instead of him raping and killing her).

    I do find the fact that she has a baby to be kind of scary, though.
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    I don't know if people disbelieve her battered-wife status, so much as they don't see it as an excuse. That's where I stand, anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    I don't know if people disbelieve her battered-wife status, so much as they don't see it as an excuse. That's where I stand, anyways.
    I see what you mean, and geez, I'm not trying to say that I think what she did was okay; and she did do 12 years in prison in exchange for her (at the time) necessary testimony. She didn't get off scott free (and they really should have considered paroling her, just to be able to control her reintegration into the community).

    But the scenario, in particular with her sister was that she drugged her so that she would be unconscious while Bernardo raped her. Tammy overdosed, and asphixiated. Again - NOT by any stretch of the imagination trying to say that is okay, neutral or only a little bad to do that. But I could see, if you were married to an abusive and brutal serial rapist that you might think that you were protecting her - that it might seem like the only alternative to seeing your sister brutally raped and killed. I don't know that's what happened - but really - who here would not be scared if you were married to Paul Bernardo? Like when he says that will kill you and your family you KNOW he means it. Again - not just okay with killing people

    Pooka - when you're married to and being battered by a serial killer you might be in a better place to compare yourself. You may not agree with a lot of things - but come on - any normal person would be really, really scared in that situation. Facts like that - if you were forced to participate in a crime, or if a reasonable person in your position would feel forced to participate in a crime DO lessen your criminal culpability. As well - she pleaded guilty to a reduced charge in exchange for testimony. It was a matter of making a deal with the lesser evil, not buying an excuse.

    I was in high school in Ontario when Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy were killed - there was a lot of identification so I was pretty up on the developments.
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    Okay.

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    Shit, if I were living with an abusive, murderous serial rapist... I'd drug my sister too so she wouldn't feel the pain... because I would know, either way, she's going to die (and be raped) because of who I married... I might as well do the best I can and make it so she feels no pain. No matter what, this women knew, her sister was not going to make it. In my opinion, she did the best she could with what she had - she didn't let her sister suffer.


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    ^ say what? Are you serious?

    Like, turning him into the cops might not have been a better idea? Fleeing along with her family? A million other options?

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    Sometimes cops don't believe you - I SURE as hell know that. Sometimes you CANT flee, I also sure as hell know that!

    My mum was chased down by a stalker - twice! We couldn't leave... he kept finding us. We tried to turn him in and he'd be out in a day and finding us again! He would threaten to kill other family if they didn't tell him where we were... it kept going.

    Sometimes you JUST CAN'T leave.

    He could've done a LOT to her in the time the cops took to get there or in the time other things happen.

    You don't know how her life was with him.


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    ^^^ If that was the case, the solution was not to kill her sister but to kill HIM.

    My ex-husband had a relative who was married to a guy like that. She took an axe to him as he slept one night and hacked him into nine pieces, and walked away a free lady. I don't think she was even charged with a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    ^ say what? Are you serious?

    Like, turning him into the cops might not have been a better idea? Fleeing along with her family? A million other options?
    Yes, I concur.
    LM - I don't think it was a matter of logistics. It's the battered woman's syndrome - essentially living with someone like that could effectively warp you, and you might not feel like you have any other options. Or she could just have been psychotic. I don't know. And Tammy Homolka asphyxiated on her own vomit; there is no indication the overdose was deliberate. If her story is, in fact, true, I think the plan was for her to live and never be any the wiser. And they have it on videotape; so you can probably buy it. There was a particularly contentious scene in which Karla says that the experience is disgusting; there was some debate on whether she meant being forced to drug and rape her sister or the fact that Tammy was menstruating at the time.

    At any rate - we can all agree that it is disturbing that she has a baby. Nearly as disturbing as finding out that she intended to work in daycare when she got out of prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    ^^^ If that was the case, the solution was not to kill her sister but to kill HIM.

    My ex-husband had a relative who was married to a guy like that. She took an axe to him as he slept one night and hacked him into nine pieces, and walked away a free lady. I don't think she was even charged with a crime.
    Good for her.

    Sometimes you can and sometimes you can't.

    Like Jenny said, battered women's syndrome.

    Just... you sometimes can't do what people think you can. You. Just. Can't.

    She probably did what she thought was best for her sister.

    Probably.


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    And the hospital staff is getting crap for ignoring her? Interesting. I'm not certain I could treat someone who participated in the violent murder of several innocent girls, despite the mitigating circumstances.

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    And the hospital staff is getting crap for ignoring her? Interesting. I'm not certain I could treat someone who participated in the violent murder of several innocent girls, despite the mitigating circumstances.
    Okay, you do realize that it is not something they have a choice in? That hospital staff HAVE to treat everybody who needs medical attention, right? You can't refuse to treat someone in an emergency room because you think they are immoral, whether she was suffering from battered wife syndrome or was just psychotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Okay, you do realize that it is not something they have a choice in? That hospital staff HAVE to treat everybody who needs medical attention, right? You can't refuse to treat someone in an emergency room because you think they are immoral, whether she was suffering from battered wife syndrome or was just psychotic.
    Logically, yes, I know this. And were I them, I would have treated her, if only for the fact that her child is an innocent, despite her actions. But it would have made my soul hurt. I know that.

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    yeah, wouldn't that violate the code of ethics? Anyhow, why where they refusing to treat her? Was it while she was in labor? I didn't see any mention of that in the articles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    I always found it a little weird that people find it SO hard to believe that Karla Homolka was a battered woman. I mean I certainly don't know that she isn't just a complete psycho, but there is incontrovertible evidence that she was abused (there are hospital records and photos); and her husband WAS a serial rapist and murderer - I mean she would certainly have reason to be afraid of him. I'd be afraid of him. That said, I think there is something a little off about the way she loves to pose for the camera. It seems like she ought to be a little more... ashamed?

    Again, I don't know that she isn't just as psychotic as Bernardo; but her story is not THAT out there (that she was battered and coerced, and that she accidentally killed her sister. I mean, if you know your husband is capable of brutal rape and murder and has set his sight on your sister, you could viably think that you are protecting her by drugging her instead of him raping and killing her).

    I do find the fact that she has a baby to be kind of scary, though.
    I don't care how "battered" you are, I just can't see any physical coercion strong enough to make a woman drug her 15 year old sister and present said sister to her husband as a fuck-toy wedding gift, and then to also participate in the drugged-sister sex.

    At the point that her husband would have wanted her to do that, she should have left immediately and gotten a restraining order. I don't care how afraid you are, that's fucked up and tells me she was willing or at the very least complicit.

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