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    anyone do a webcam business on the side?

    while im still learning the ropes with dancing and am yet to enjoy the money im thinking about starting a webcam business. not porno stylee but more like foot fetish type stuff.

    im not doing anything during the day and i really need the money, so why not?

    would love to hear from anyone who has done this and any tips and advice you may hav
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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    living in the UK, you can escape the US Law that really put a dent on US webcams - the 'Tracy Lords Law' - which effectively forces independent webcam girls to either post their real names, addresses and ages on the main web page of their cam, or alternatively forces them to turn over 50% of their webcam earnings to a webcam hosting service that 'fronts' for them in terms of complying with this law. Violation of this law carries with it not only a federal felony charge but also one that classifies the guilty webcam producer as being a 'child pornographer' ... which in turn triggers all sorts of US 'sex criminal' laws and reporting requirements re informing straight job employers, local cops, new neighbors etc. Also, such a 'sex criminal' conviction triggers legal restrictions in regard to where you are allowed to live versus the locations of schools, churches, playgrounds etc. which, in the worst case, would prevent a convicted webcam girl from living in her own house should that house be within 1/4 mile - 1000ft (or whatever local laws say) of a school, church or playground.

    Arguably, webcams originating from anywhere in the world that 'sell' their service in the USA are required to comply with this law. However, the 'reality' of enforcement of a US law on a foreign webcam is an entirely different story.

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    so showing my feet on webcam is endangering nearby school children? where do people come up with this shit!? lol

    im intending to use a webcam hosting company such as imlive.com

    im also considering building my own website and hosting it from there with a members section but i keep falling asleep...

    ps: i do not intend on doing anything really pornographic such as toy play etc. there are enough girls who do that already.

    i am considering doing strip tease on webcam, but i wonder if its too tame for webcam work. ive tested it spontaneously on past boyfriends and all suggested i do it as a business. its just hard to get your face AND body in the shot at the same time lol
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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    Webcam girls are a dime a dozen these days. I personally wouldn't do it as it isn't really worth it anymore as the market is flooded with people doing all sorts of things from tame (ie www.aussieashlee.com ) to fetish.

    I know you want to make some more money because stripping isn't so much doing it for you then I will have to suggest that you may want to look at doing a 'real' job on the side during the day or something instead if stripping is really not working out for you.

    At the same time, go for it. Try it. If it works, all the better for you

    I just feel that the time where there was good money to be made via webcam work only (and not have a website that has a whole of heap of other stuff not just webcam) has passed.


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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    yeah i know what you mean vanessa and thats why i put this post up, to find out more about the webcam business.

    i am determined to make stripping work because i hav vowed never to hav a boss again nor to work a regular job.

    i am a performer and hav been dancing my whole life. im just very new to this job and my over analytical brain makes it hard to get everything in place for me to function right lol

    do you know how hard or easy it was for ashlee to do that website? i would love to do something like that but i dont know where to start!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    living in the UK, you can escape the US Law that really put a dent on US webcams - the 'Tracy Lords Law' - which effectively forces independent webcam girls to either post their real names, addresses and ages on the main web page of their cam, or alternatively forces them to turn over 50% of their webcam earnings to a webcam hosting service that 'fronts' for them in terms of complying with this law. Violation of this law carries with it not only a federal felony charge but also one that classifies the guilty webcam producer as being a 'child pornographer' ... which in turn triggers all sorts of US 'sex criminal' laws and reporting requirements re informing straight job employers, local cops, new neighbors etc. Also, such a 'sex criminal' conviction triggers legal restrictions in regard to where you are allowed to live versus the locations of schools, churches, playgrounds etc. which, in the worst case, would prevent a convicted webcam girl from living in her own house should that house be within 1/4 mile - 1000ft (or whatever local laws say) of a school, church or playground.

    Arguably, webcams originating from anywhere in the world that 'sell' their service in the USA are required to comply with this law. However, the 'reality' of enforcement of a US law on a foreign webcam is an entirely different story.
    Thanks for the info, Melonie. I used to do webcam sessions on Niteflirt but I have stopped because my actual cam broke and just didn't find it lucrative enough to go and purchase a new one. And I found it was much easier just to talk on the phone. I heard there were some newer restrictions for cam girls (including the full name/address thing - what BS!), but I wasn't aware of the whole story.

    Websites themselves are hard work, 21stcenturyfox. You'll need photographers and fresh new ideas that have to be updated constantly. And you'll have to either learn how to design websites on your own (which can take quite a while) or pay someone a minimum of $500 to start one up for you. Then pay for maintenance and updating if you don't know how to do it yourself. Advertising is key, so is having lots of content for your viewers. I had a personal BDSM website and had maybe 10-20 members a month, although I did charge quite a bit because it was mostly for my slaves and submissive fans to see new photos of me on a regular basis. I found it hard to keep up with all the photo and video work.

    I'd say just stick with what you have...dancing. You seem to have a healthy amount of ambition and willingness to learn. Why not invest in a Dancer Wealth home study course or a bunch of sales books? Times are slow from what I hear, but they will pick up again soon! Then you can jump back into your hustle full force when it does.

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    thanks alexxa

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    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    Hmmm.. How much would you charge? And I'll pay you by paypal... What do you say mami?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21stcenturyfox View Post
    do you know how hard or easy it was for ashlee to do that website? i would love to do something like that but i dont know where to start!
    ashlee is me.

    starting the site has been a LOT of work, but i guess it was relatively easy because i'm also a website designer so have built the entire thing myself, and i have plenty of photographer friends to help out with that side of things too.

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    And I'll pay you by paypal... What do you say mami
    Paypal will now permanently ban any account found to be involved in an 'adult' internet business.

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    i'm glad i stumbled into this thread because i have been considering doing webcam work, too.
    i guess it's not really worthwhile nor lucrative.

    back to the drawing board!

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    True... That's why you can send the money as a "gift"... They won't know... There's always loopholes around things...

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    ^If paypal figures out the recipient account is tied to an adult site (which wouldn't be hard to do and wouldn't be too unlikely if said account suddenly starts getting lots of "gifts" from many senders), it will be closed and banned. I wouldn't bother with paypal for this.

    Unless you want to get your own merchant account (which can be quite costly up front for an adult site), best bet is to go with a big hosted cam site. They'll take half your earnings, but they front all the cost.

    But really, I wouldn't bother with webcam. Like GCG said, they're a dime a dozen and you'll wind up sitting around allllll day waiting for a sale and wasting alot of time with shitheads trying to get a free show.

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    Unless you want to get your own merchant account (which can be quite costly up front for an adult site), best bet is to go with a big hosted cam site. They'll take half your earnings, but they front all the cost.
    Yes, this is the dilemma faced by all girls who are considering webcam work targeted to US customers. The 'easy' way immediately costs you 50% of your potential earnings for the webcam hosting service plus use of the hosting services' onlined credit card processing account. Since even the 50% payout will be reported via 1099 to the IRS and taxed, you're looking at maybe being able to pocket one third of the webcam money you are actually bringing in.

    The 'hard' way is to rent your own web server, pay for your own bandwidth use, load up your own webcam software, obtain your own adult business credit card merchant account, market your own webcam site via links and search engines, do your own documentation for Section 2257 Tracy Lords Law compliance (i.e. posting your real name, real age, and real address on your webcam page). This way you can actually keep at least 50-60% of the webcam money you're actually bringing in. But this involves investing several thousand dollars up front plus a whole lot of setup time, plus now letting the entire world know who you are and where you live thanks to Section 2257. The latter was the reason that I shut down my own webcam.

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    If you only want to do fetish work, no nudity or toys you will have hard time making decent money, most guys want to see you naked playing with toys, I'm not saying you wont make any money but it will take you a long time to start seeing anything decent. There are plenty of fetish guys and I get them almost every day, sometimes several a day, but I have many regulars, been doing webcam for over 6 years now and its great money, I make a great (really really great) living with it, it takes time to build yourself up tho and its hard to do it only with foot fetish. Theres a big market for domination, so many guys out there want to be dominated but you have to know what your doing.
    If you want to start a website the #1 thing is to know how to bring traffic to it, theres no point of just putting the site on the net and let it sit there, you wont get traffic unless you know how to get it and work on getting it, I build websites and run them for other girls and theres great money to be made in it, but again if you dont want to get naked and show more than just your feet you will have hard time making decent money.
    Imlive is an ok site, they take a ton of your money for just ok traffic, takes a long time to add up, especially when most girls on there are from eastern europe and charge very little, so you have to offer a lot to be able to charge at least $3.99 a min, they will only pay you 35% and if the member charges back they will take that money away from you. Theres many webcam sites out there but theres even more webcam girls who are willing to do anything and everything for very little money.
    Feel free to message me if you have any questions.

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    Once upon a time, webcam work was great - there was more business than the girls had time for, and men were willing to pay almost anything the girls asked for. Now, the business is a bit slower and offering cam isn't enough for clients - they want phone, mic, etc. I cam full-time and recently signed up here because the income from camming isn't what it once was and it seems that dancing would be better for me. Anyways, there are many ways to make more than 50% of your earnings, such as being an independent camgirl. There are listing sites such as camgirlshide.com that are completely free and serve as just an advertisement. There are also sites that will list you as a host and provide you with a payment processor, CCBill. Sites like websfinest.com and webcamlive.uk.co are good. I am listed on quite a few sites and am still trying to build up my business again. There are a few more sites that I would suggest, that offer up to 80% payouts with CCBill - feel free to PM me if interested.

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    Default Re: webcam business on the side?

    hey girl, so have you started your webcam production yet? I am also interested in doing one. Not expecting mountains of money, but at least if I am bored at home, I could be doing "something" productive with my time ya know.
    let me know because I have nooo idea where to start...i heard about the pay pal thing, so what are our other options?

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