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    I was so furious last night. It was extremely slow and the only reason (at the start of the night) that I was making money is coz my regular was in.
    So when I went on stage 2 other dancers sit with him (and I know that they know he is my regular). When I get back they are still sitting with him and he says "Oh they wanna do a triple dance" with a kind of puzzled look on his face. One of the other dancers said "Yeh let's do a triple dance". So I excused myself and went to the dressing room fuming. Two other girls were in there and asked me what was wrong. I probably shouldn't have told them coz I dont wanna cause dramas at work but I couldn't help it and I told them and they said "shit no that's so wrong go out and just pull him away and take him for a dance".

    I know he comes in with a set amount of money to spend on me and if I did the triple dance he would have given them $50 each and I would have lost $100 - not cool!

    So when I went back they got up and left and he told me that one of them was cool when he told her he only gets dances from me and she said she would just stay and chat with him but the other girl hustled him hard even after he said that she kept nagging him. He said he kept changing the topic.

    I was livid. I mean after I found out one dancer didn't hustle him I wasn't mad at her. I get along with these two girls so well and I would never do this to any other girls regular. I totally understand how desperate you can feel on a slow night but fuck that was so not cool.

    Later in the night another of my regulars came in and that same dancer who hustled my other regular hustled this regular
    She totally put me on the spot coz when I got off stage she was standing with him and she said "he wants a dance but wanted me to ask u first". So I just said "yeh sure go for it". I mean I can't tell any man who they can and can't dance with.

    Anyway I ended up having a great night in regards to money but FUCK this was soooooooo dam annoying. I never approach other dancers regulars, ever!

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    Nah, what you described there is just plain rude - particularly that last incident. You should mention it to management - you dont have to mention names or anything but just mention it so management can make a friendly reminder to everyone about manners and fairness / work ethics.

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    Default Re: Is it ok to hustle other dancers regulars just coz it's slow?

    You don't own the guy. It is as soon as we all start thinking we "own" each regular that we get into trouble. We become possessive of that regular. If you have a good (business) relationship with this guy then no other girl will be a threat to you.

    At the same time, once he mentioned that he was there specifically to see you that other girl should have stopped hustling/selling to him. She should've done as her co-worker did... just be friendly and chatty just not hustling him.

    It is after he told her that he was there to see you in particular that she crossed the line. Speak with management, have them have a word with her. Something like this needs to be handled by them if they are at all interested in having girls get along.


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    I don't think it's rude...like GCG said, you don't own the guy. It's when girls start thinking they own customers that drama happens.

    She made herself look like an ass when she kept hustling your reg after he said he wasn't interested, but it really has nothing to do with you.

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    Yeah, sometimes I get paranoid, not being clairvoyant, especially at a new club, about unwittingly chatting up someone's regular. Unless they're wearing nametags that say "Property of ____", other dancers sometimes really have no way of knowing.

    The SECOND the customer says "I'm waiting for someone," I'm (politely) outta there, though. In your scenario, Jazaine, I'm glad to hear that you did forgive dancer #1; that might have been me. Dancer #2 definitely crossed the line though.
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    I really don't see what the big deal is. Yeah, she did make herself look stupid by practically begging your reg for a dance, but that is what he is there for. I, myself don't feel comfortable sitting with someone's reg, but I will ask them for a dance. I never care if a girl sits with my reg. If he's truly not interested then he will decline, if he is interested then he may get the dance. Its hardly anything to fume over, as long as the the girl isn't badmouthing you then I really don't see the problem. He is an adult and should be able to feel comfortable spending his $ as he wants without having to worry about his ATF getting all bitchy with him. Thats what his wife is for after all. We don't "own" the customers.
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    I know I don't own the guy. The main thing I was annoyed about what putting me on the spot like trying to make me help her hustle in scenario one. The thing is I felt kind of bad coz her and I often hustle together and try to sell double dances and I really like this girl. But I knew he wouldn't get a dance from her and it was just embarrassing when she said "hey he should have a triple dance". She wanted me to help her hustle and talk him into it which I wasn't gonna do. She has her reg's and so do I. We hustle new guys in pairs.

    I'm not sure if I should talk to management tho I don't like getting other people into trouble esp a girl I get along with so well. Maybe I will just let it go and if it happens again I might say something.

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    Okay, I think it's rude. I'm a possesive bitch like that, though. The only time I would approach someone's regular would be if that girl wasn't at work on a given night, then it's fair game.
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    Every customer is fair game. However, if a girl needs to use you (without your permission) to get a customer (a regular or any other customer) to spend money, that's not just wrong, it's pathetic. If you've not already agreed to hustle a certain customer as a pair, you're each on your own. For a girl to ambush you with double or triple dance requests or to have a customer ask your permission to get a dance with her is just way out of line. You're there to make money for you, not to help others make money.

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    i think its very rude and unacceptable... and just plain disrespect.. They know exactly what they are doing..... i would have def said something to the other dancers.... not cool.

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    if ur ever asked if it's okay with you like that say "t's up to him if he wants a dance from you, I'll be at the bar". 10 to 1 he'll say no and come do dances with you.

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    Well, if you and the girl are in a regular habit of selling double dances and hustling guys together, maybe she figures you'll have her back when it's slow. Obviously, this isn't okay, so you need to let her know to wait for you to call her over, rather then just assuming she is welcome. Also let her know about the guys "set amount" and that you kinda would have liked to have all of it, and probably would have if she hadn't come over. Hint that money has been kind of tight for you lately, and normally you wouldn't care (hic), but you need every dollar you can get.

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    I think it's okay to hustle another girl's regular at any time. I think you run into discourteous behaviour if you're doing things like saying that his girl isn't in, or that she really hates him, or ridicules him for "being faithful" or even just pushes really hard after he says that he is waiting on someone else. But approaching him while you're not there, sitting with him and trying to get him to buy a dance - well within normal professional habit.

    On the other hand - you're under no obligation to help her. So you are perfectly at liberty to say "I prefer to work alone actually" or some such thing. If you do that though, expect it back at a later time.
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    Every customer is fair game! I do not care if you call him a regular. It sounds like u consider too many guys ur regular anyway, and u may have had a better nite if u did that triple dance. With that attitude of walkin off u can lose that reg all together. The girls may have brought u more money had u done a double dance with their regs. I guess i am not the selfish nor jealous type i want all my girls to do good

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    What she said.^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victoryx0x0 View Post
    It sounds like u consider too many guys ur regular anyway, and u may have had a better nite if u did that triple dance. With that attitude of walkin off u can lose that reg all together.
    I don't agree with this. I spoke of two guys who came in to see me. Guy 1 has expressly said that he brings in a set amount to spend on me, I am the one who puts up with his bullshit all night and smells his rotten breath so I think I deserve that money. If I had done the triple I would not have had a better night I would have lost the $100 that I ended up making off him when I returned from the dressing room.

    Guy 2 comes in to see me but he gets dances off other girls too which is fine I just don't need to be asked if it's ok, that was stupid.

    I am not greedy or selfish. I do help other girls make money as I said I regularly hustle guys with her. Now she has 4 regulars who I have never approached and I would just appreciate the same courtesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    if ur ever asked if it's okay with you like that say "t's up to him if he wants a dance from you, I'll be at the bar". 10 to 1 he'll say no and come do dances with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusive21 View Post
    When I'm working, I'll try and hustle everyone, even if I know that the guy that I am talking to is someone's regular. Just like everybody else said, no one can "own" a customer. There were several times when I sat down with someone's regular and they asked "me" to do dances for them before I even had a chance to ask. However, if they tell me that they are waiting for another dancer (and I can tell that they're not lying since some customers will lie about that and say that they are waiting for someone when they're really not) I'll let them know that I'll be around all night in case they change their mind and want to get a dance from me later, and then I'll politely excise myself and leave.
    If I see a customer and chat him up a bit and he tells me that he is waiting for so-and-so, I tell him the same thing..."If you change your mind and want to see me later, I'll be here-have fun with Buffy, she's a cool gal" and then I buzz off. But if he asks for a dance, then he is fair game. It's his call as far as who he spends his time and money with.

    It sounds like you were spending some time with him before your stage set & left to go to the stage with the intentions of doing dances with him when you got back. Personally I would not have approached the table if I knew he was in to see you exclusively, but then again there are those times I'm either oblivious or there is no sign of a girl (i.e. a drink) sitting with the customer. This is why I always ask to join first, so I can avoid this kind of drama.
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    I think it is rude. I never approach someone's regular. It only leads to drama. On the other hand, I agree if u have a good relationship he won't get dances from anyone else. Everything is a competition. I have learned this the hard way

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    everyone is fair game. yeah, there are rules but in the end the custy has the final say.

    you took your regulars from another gal (whether you knew it or not)...thats just how it works.

    ive asked regulars(aka property, lol) for double dances, if he says yes then its a go. i may ask the girl if its ok first, but hey, we are all here to make money--not friends. the "owner" is going to get paid regardless until the reg finds a new "owner" lol.

    sorry Jazaine, you just need to deal with it. it seems most of us agree that this is just part of the game whether you like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    Okay, I think it's rude. I'm a possesive bitch like that, though. The only time I would approach someone's regular would be if that girl wasn't at work on a given night, then it's fair game.
    yah i would be pissed too. i think if it happened to anyone they would be mad to. they just have to be in that situation.
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    I wouldn't have done that because it's just rude and starts problems. It seems like you can tell the difference between asking someone else's regular to dance when it's slow and HUSTLING someone else's regular. If you get along with the girl otherwise, write it off (unless she does it again). Maybe she was having a weird day. Either way, keep your cool (especially around the custy). If it starts getting too awkward, he may take some time away altogether.
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    I don't approach other girl's regulars if I know they are only there for that dancer. I might say hello, smile and make myself seem available to them if it's slow and I have no other options, but I rarely sit with them. I find it is less offensive and more polite all around to give him more subtle cues that I appreciate his existence in the club (a spending customer - yay!) and I'll be more than happy to dance if he tires of getting dances from her. If I dance for one of those types before he comes to me exclusively, it's because she invited me over. You will never see me harassing anyone for a dance in a pushy way, especially a customer that is expressly there to see someone else. How tacky! I intentionally try to avoid drama and good customers (as well as the girls) appreciate this.

    If a customer says he is there for so-and-so and I didn't know of him being anyone's reg, I'll politely bow out, maybe even offer to go get her if I like her and I'm not busy. People do remember when you help them out. If they "forget" about my kindness, then they don't receive that same courtesy again. The whole machine works better if it's well-oiled and everyone is more geared toward working as a team. The happiness spreads and consequently, so does the wealth.

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    ^^^ I wholeheartedly agree withthat. I work in pretty much the same way (-:

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    I agree with GCG.
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