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    Some of you may have heard the buzz surrounding The Secret. Oprah talked about it and now it's going around. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think it's one of the most inspirational things I've ever seen. I've been applying the principles to my life for the last week or so and I'm already seeing results.

    Here's the trailer for it:

    http://www.thesecret.tv/

    Warning, it's a little cheesy, production wise, but totally worth watching.

    If anyone else has seen it and wants to discuss, please do so. I'd love to hear what you guys think of it. I think it's a must see for any dancer, or anyone in general who wants success and happiness in their lives.
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    No, no it's awesome!! I've read a similar book called, "The Law of Attraction" which is the principal (sp?) that The Secret is based on.

    Basically, what they are saying is that what you focus on is what you will get, and also, it's what you are putting out to the universe.

    IE when people focus on, "Ohh I'm so poor, poor me!!"

    They focus on being poor and send "I am poor!" vibes out to the world

    If they would focus on "I want to change my behavior so that I open myself up to a lifestyle that will allow me to make more money"

    They would invite that kind of behavior

    It is an excellent principle, and the only thing Oprah's ever done that I liked
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    The trailer is a bit too vague for me to for an opinion.... hmm.
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    It is an excellent principle, and the only thing Oprah's ever done that I liked
    Well, Oprah didn't do it, she just promoted it. She gets the word out on a lot of good things and then theres that whole billions of dollars she's donated to start schools in Africa and such. Yeah, what a wench.
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    The website looks like an incredibly cheesy scam to make money. I don't trust the video service, so I haven't watched the trailer. Is this another one of those "visualize it and it will come true," or "project positive thoughts and good things will magically happen in your life" loads of crap? These things sound nice but they never have any basis in reality, nor supporting (unbiased) scientific evidence. The latest in psuedo-science, like pyramid power was all the rage in our parents days. It's all bunk.

    Then again, I didnt see the video so I could just be talking out my ass.

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    I read the book, saw the movie and have yet mastered "The Secret" but I must say that I have seen positive changes in my income and life in general.
    I think its a great motivator for people that may be stuck in a rut in thier lives. And we've all been there in some form or another. This will help keep us out of the rut. Good luck to everyone who tries "The Secret"!
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    I've been doing these things for years (off and on). I first found Abraham Hicks (The LOA, etc). It really, truly is about Thoughts becoming things. What you focus on becomes more abundant. Even if you don't want to get "scammed" by the website, hit the bookstores and start reading up on the Law of Attraction.

    I mean a couple of years ago, Joe went from making $40,000 a year to tripling his income...just because he saw this and put it into action. Be grateful for everything you have, think about what you want and know that it is already yours, and focus only on the things that you want in your life. The more you focus on what you do want, the things that you do not want will begin to fall away.

    And so it is.

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    The only problem I had with The Secret (the movie) was the clip where the woman claimed she cured herself of cancer (I think it was cancer) by merely projecting the thought that she was cancer-free. She seemed to imply that anybody who was sick could cure themselves in that manner. That's how I remember it anyhow, please correct me if I'm wrong. That kinda pissed me off and for that reason alone I did not show the movie to my mom (who recently battled breast cancer.) In addition, a young friend with cystic fibrosis recently watched it and she was very upset at that part. The rest of the movie is great, although a bit redundant.

    Personally, I enjoyed What the Bleep much more. The scene that showed the various patterns of water molecules (ranging from beautifully crystalline to highly disorganized) based upon the "stimulus" made me go

    If you are interested in going a bit deeper into what drives these beliefs I would recommend checking out a book or two on quantum physics. One in particular that I am reading is called Parallel Worlds by Michio Kaku, a professor of theoretical physics and a co-founder of string theory. The book is written so that the average person can grasp the concepts and ideas being presented. I have not finished the book yet but will do so after break starts this weekend.

    The universe (multiverse?) is very mysterious and I for one will not reject an idea until it can be disproven. Teleportation is no longer mere science fiction but has actually been observed in laboratory settings. Granted it is on the quantum level but just the fact that it can be done at all I find just mind boggling. Perhaps it won't be long until we are able to teleport entire molecules. Another book of interest is The Elegant Universe which I have not read but I did view it on dvd (nova series, pbs).

    OK, this is probably way more info that you were asking for in regards to my opinion of The Secret but that's my and I'm stickin' to it.


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    Arrrg, my 'puter wouldn't play the trailer! It wanted me to install some program first...yeah, no! I don't like to install stuff for virus reasons. I'll just have to watch Oprah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    The only problem I had with The Secret (the movie) was the clip where the woman claimed she cured herself of cancer (I think it was cancer) by merely projecting the thought that she was cancer-free. She seemed to imply that anybody who was sick could cure themselves in that manner. That's how I remember it anyhow, please correct me if I'm wrong. That kinda pissed me off
    The mind is a very powerful thing, you'd be surprised of it's healing capabilities. Check out the book Quantum Healing by Deepak Chopra, it looks at the power of mind/body medicine. Very interesting read.

    I live by the "secret" and have for a very long time thanks to a few key people in my life who've taught me important life principles. To anyone who hasn't seen it, go out and get it it's definitely inspirational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexXe View Post
    The mind is a very powerful thing, you'd be surprised of it's healing capabilities. Check out the book Quantum Healing by Deepak Chopra, it looks at the power of mind/body medicine. Very interesting read.

    I live by the "secret" and have for a very long time thanks to a few key people in my life who've taught me important life principles. To anyone who hasn't seen it, go out and get it it's definitely inspirational.
    Oh I agree that the mind is very powerful and I'm not surprised at all by it's healing capabilities. One can look at studies where the placebo "cured" the problem and I'm aware that there are cases where whatever illness the person had is miraculously gone and doctors have no explanation for it. Again, I am not refuting any claims of mind over matter.

    The point I was trying to make is that it is very unfair and disrespectful to those suffering to make such grand and sweeping claims that they can cure themselves of terminal illness by merely "thinking positive." I feel like that subject could have been broached more tactfully and less definitively. The approach they took can have the effect of making one feel that they alone are responsible for remaining ill because they are not "willing" hard enough to be well. And in the case of my friend with CF, well, it angered her. She's dying and here this movie is saying that by seeing herself free of (terminal) disease, it can come to be.

    I agree with the idea of promoting well being by thinking healthy thoughts. That belief was further cemented by seeing the water photographs in What the Bleep. "If thoughts can have such a profound effect on a drop of water...imagine what these thoughts are doing to our body." I do wish I could find this elusive study. If anybody has a link please post it.


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    oh and btw, for those of you who can't view the trailer:

    trailer for what the bleep:

    eta god I searched high and low and I finally found the message of water clip:

    There are tons of additional clips on youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    The only problem I had with The Secret (the movie) was the clip where the woman claimed she cured herself of cancer (I think it was cancer) by merely projecting the thought that she was cancer-free. She seemed to imply that anybody who was sick could cure themselves in that manner. That's how I remember it anyhow, please correct me if I'm wrong. That kinda pissed me off and for that reason alone I did not show the movie to my mom (who recently battled breast cancer.) In addition, a young friend with cystic fibrosis recently watched it and she was very upset at that part. The rest of the movie is great, although a bit redundant.
    I understand where you are coming from BUT this has worked for soooooooooo many people battling cancer. Even some DOCTORS suggest doing this. This has been something that has worked for people way before the secret was made. Ya know even those cancer centres use imaginary healing in conjuction with holistic therapy and diet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seraya View Post
    I understand where you are coming from BUT this has worked for soooooooooo many people battling cancer. Even some DOCTORS suggest doing this. This has been something that has worked for people way before the secret was made. Ya know even those cancer centres use imaginary healing in conjuction with holistic therapy and diet.
    Yes, I understand that and I'm not disagreeing with that. I feel like I'm not really making my point clear. My point is that after having personally watched the movie The Secret, they could have done a better job of expanding on that belief. From what I remember, it was a brief scene, with one anecdotal story. I do not recall them mentioning anything about diet or any other type of therapy other than envisioning one's self as healed. Perhaps they did but I don't remember that and welcome any comments that correct my memory (I watched the movie in Dec). I don't have the movie in my possession and have searched youtube for that particular clip to no avail. Can anybody who has recently seen this or who remembers this scene more clearly than I elaborate on it?

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    The universe (multiverse?) is very mysterious and I for one will not reject an idea until it can be disproven.
    In my opinion, The Secret did a poor job of promoting good health through positive thinking. That's really all I was trying to say. haha


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    Ok I see what you mean; yes I can see where it comes across as misleading. I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't really comment.

    I just went to the what the bleep website, I also watched the clip you posted (as I had never heard of it) and I find it so fascinating I really want to see this film.

    The scene about the patterns of the water molecules, was that real? Did that really happen? I am unable to tell if the film is a movie or documentary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seraya View Post
    Ok I see what you mean; yes I can see where it comes across as misleading. I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't really comment.
    hahahahahahahaha you deserve a spanking for that!

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    I just went to the what the bleep website, I also watched the clip you posted (as I had never heard of it) and I find it so fascinating I really want to see this film.

    The scene about the patterns of the water molecules, was that real? Did that really happen? I am unable to tell if the film is a movie or documentary.
    I think the two movies (secret and what the bleep) can be purchased as a bundled package if anyone is interested. Regarding the water molecules: I don't know if that was real. I am still searching (admittedly half-assed) for any sort of studies that relate to this.

    The format of what the bleep is probably best described as half documentary/half drama. Basically, the story takes you through this woman's life, I believe she is bitter about her recent divorce and suffers from anxiety or panic attacks. The story is interspersed with commentary from various MD's, theoretical physicists, and I believe a religious figure or two.

    If you want to see a bit more go to youtube and search for "what the bleep" there are soooooooo many different clips on there, some between 7-10 minutes long.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    The only problem I had with The Secret (the movie) was the clip where the woman claimed she cured herself of cancer (I think it was cancer) by merely projecting the thought that she was cancer-free. She seemed to imply that anybody who was sick could cure themselves in that manner. That's how I remember it anyhow, please correct me if I'm wrong. That kinda pissed me off and for that reason alone I did not show the movie to my mom (who recently battled breast cancer.) In addition, a young friend with cystic fibrosis recently watched it and she was very upset at that part. The rest of the movie is great, although a bit redundant.


    Yeah that might piss me off too... My mother was extremely positive and such when she had cancer. Didn't help her much at all, cept it made others around her worry less.
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    Placebos are no "secret." We've known about those for hundreds of years, so no need to shell out cash for that.

    I could use the power of positive thinking to imagine myself eating an ice cream cone. I can project thoughts of how yummy it is into the universe but no ice cream cone will ever appear in my hands.
    If I want ice cream to appear, I go to the store and buy it. It was not the thought of having ice cream that made the universe bring ice cream to me. It was my ACTION, of going out and getting it.

    The "secret" is trying to mislead people into forking over thier hard earned cash. Their "secret" is to trick you into placing the cause onto your thoughts instead of where it really belongs, on your actions.

    Sorry to burst any one's bubble, but if you want good stuff you are still going to have to go and get it. Same as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    Yes, I understand that and I'm not disagreeing with that. I feel like I'm not really making my point clear. My point is that after having personally watched the movie The Secret, they could have done a better job of expanding on that belief. From what I remember, it was a brief scene, with one anecdotal story. I do not recall them mentioning anything about diet or any other type of therapy other than envisioning one's self as healed. Perhaps they did but I don't remember that and welcome any comments that correct my memory (I watched the movie in Dec). I don't have the movie in my possession and have searched youtube for that particular clip to no avail. Can anybody who has recently seen this or who remembers this scene more clearly than I elaborate on it?


    In my opinion, The Secret did a poor job of promoting good health through positive thinking. That's really all I was trying to say. haha
    I saw the movie last week. The woman that states she cured herself of cancer also said what she also did in conjunction to her treatment. She watched her diet and especially watched funny movies to constantly keep her mood elevated. Mastering the law of attraction and living a positive lifestyle helped her cure her cancer. Remember, we don't know what stage her cancer was in, so that my play a role to the degree of the power of LOA can have on the human body.
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    Placebos are no "secret." We've known about those for hundreds of years, so no need to shell out cash for that.

    I could use the power of positive thinking to imagine myself eating an ice cream cone. I can project thoughts of how yummy it is into the universe but no ice cream cone will ever appear in my hands.
    If I want ice cream to appear, I go to the store and buy it. It was not the thought of having ice cream that made the universe bring ice cream to me. It was my ACTION, of going out and getting it.

    The "secret" is trying to mislead people into forking over thier hard earned cash. Their "secret" is to trick you into placing the cause onto your thoughts instead of where it really belongs, on your actions.

    Sorry to burst any one's bubble, but if you want good stuff you are still going to have to go and get it. Same as always.
    Actually, your thought made you think of the ice cream and the law of attraction made you go out get that ice cream cone. The Secret is about the laws of attraction.

    Didn't you say above that you haven't seen the DVD? Well, nowhere in there does it say that you don't follow up your thoughts with action. I don't see how you can sit and dog on something that you haven't even seen. If you watch it and still want to say that it's claptrap, then ok, but without viewing it I don't see how you can even have an opinion on it.

    And if it works for people (and it does and has been proven time and again) then why should it bother you? I don't believe that Jesus H. Christ is my lord and savior, but I don't discount the good that the belief has done for others. Positive thought leads to positive action, and The Secret has more to it than you might think.

    It just bugs me when someone who hasn't even read/seen something wants to sit and tell everyone that it's bullshit. I have had plenty of preconceived notions about things that turned out to be completely different than I would have imagined. I'm not saying this is one of those things for you, but it wouldn't kill you to open your mind a little bit.

    And saying things like, "Sorry to burst anyone's bubble," is very condescending and unnecessary. I'm not stupid, and neither are a lot of the other people who use these principles in their lives. You don't have to like it, but you don't have to be a jerk about it either.
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    The "secret" is about making someone rich.

    I have seen the youtube video a while back. It was the website that I didn't recognize. There are many versions of this same idea being sold over the internet. Sorry, i don't mean to be condescending in tone and I don't mean to be a jerk.

    I still think this kind of stuff is bullshit, but the idea that everything has an easy answer is just too appealing. I can try to tell you that hard work leads to success, but no one will buy that. Pretty thoughts lead to success with psuedo-science called "attraction" weeeeeeee. Just feels so fuzzy inside, everyone wants it to be true.

    Everyone is going to believe what the want to believe regardless of evidence, so I'll just zip it and bow out now.

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    ^with all due respect, it's not that easy to implement such beliefs. I really notice now when people make comments such as, "oh, I'll never be able to do (or achieve) that. It's just too hard/unrealistic/whatever." Oooooh and another good one is when people expect the worse because they don't want to be disappointed if the good doesn't happen. It's like we have to train ourselves to stop thinking in such a manner. And NO you don't need the movie or a book to do so, but as mentioned those tools might give people the motivation that they need if they are not surrounded by others who share that belief.

    I think that the most important thing that I took away after seeing the movie was to stop focusing on what I don't want and focus on what I DO want.


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    I'm still not totally convinced with the whole LOA thing. I don't really want to believe it, because frankly it creeps me out.

    However, every time I have really tried this, it has worked. And I don't mean just working harder and things happen, but rather all these lucky coincidences. To the point of it being scary. I've conducted many little tests. Like for example, thinking of this very rare 80's movie that I hadn't seen in forever and then my friend just coming across a copy and lending it to me. Or, I was thinking of getting a bathmat and then my neighbours gave me one they were going to throw away. Or thinking of someone I hadn't seen in forever and then running into that person. These were not about working hard, I just went about my life and then these very specific things manifested.

    I think that's really what it's about, not that you materialize things into your hand but that using this you become a luckier person as you go about your life.

    But, as with any type of free philosophy or belief that helps people, I feel weird when it's made it into a big commercial thing. It makes it seems like a scam and turns people off it. Meh.

    Plus, I've watched the video and didn't like the way it was presented. It was totally cheesy and cheapened the concept, I felt. You can read articles online for free instead or visit your library. Or even you know...just do it. It's a fairly simple concept. You really don't need to pay money to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post
    The "secret" is about making someone rich.

    I have seen the youtube video a while back. It was the website that I didn't recognize. There are many versions of this same idea being sold over the internet. Sorry, i don't mean to be condescending in tone and I don't mean to be a jerk.

    I still think this kind of stuff is bullshit, but the idea that everything has an easy answer is just too appealing. I can try to tell you that hard work leads to success, but no one will buy that. Pretty thoughts lead to success with psuedo-science called "attraction" weeeeeeee. Just feels so fuzzy inside, everyone wants it to be true.

    Everyone is going to believe what the want to believe regardless of evidence, so I'll just zip it and bow out now.

    Again, nowhere in it does it say you don't have to work hard. I think all of us on here know that hard work is a key to success, but frankly, hard work does NOT always lead to success. Most of the time it just leads to more hard work.

    I also didn't feel that the "answer" was easy. It is complex, and they don't deny that.

    A friend of mine comes from bluebloods and he said that all of those people use these principles in their lives and businesses. It's something that has helped to lead them to success. If someone like that who knows money and knows success tells me that this type of thing works, I'm going to believe that over skeptics who don't even have all of the information.
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