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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    I've been told I "look good for a white girl" too. Also that "redheads usually aren't hot, but you're hot." Whatever




    Meeeee too! Which of course is partly why I prefer men of the darker persuasions
    Exactly. I don't get the whole black women getting pissed over white women dating black men either (man, I am on a role). I would like to see more variations of interracial relationships in movies (but it is getting better). Although, when I go out with white boyfriends I get some LOOKS from black men, women, white men, woman....some people are just close-minded.

    Whenever I'd be out with my mom, she'd get some DIRTY ass looks from black women. Kind of the "Oh. You took one our OURS and have kids with him. Hmp."

    But sorry for thread hi-jacking lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex View Post
    While I understand that being born a certain race is not a choice and being a "freak" is
    sigh... i am glad YOU mentioned this because i was thinking it as i was reading your post

    good one though, the whole thing
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    Okay, I went to Hot Topic ( thanks Susan ) and I approached this cutey with pink hair and tatts. Just my type, I don't like a prissy man, anywhoo. I decided not to tone down my usual style of dress...afterall...this is a social experiment. I wore semi modest black tank, hell, I'm lying, it was a hoochie top. Anyhoo, I wore that and my favorite pair of House of Dereon jeans. To top it off, I wore very ethnic accessories such as my jamaican flag bracelet, I was determined to keep it real with myself. I made my way to Hot Topic and focused on focusing on white guys. I threw my flirty eyes, I switched my hips ( ever so slightly, don't want to scare off the gentlemen) and.............. a big fat nothing! So, I regrouped and headed into the store. Hot Topic is one of my favorite stores anyway, but this time I entered with more on my mind than fishnets. I spotted my first target near the tees. I smiled at him.....and he smiled back politely, shit. He smiled at me as though I was a store associate, not the hot African Goddess coming to scoop him up.

    Sooooooooooooo, I did what any girl would do, I called up my dearest girlfriend and asked her what the hell was I doing! She reassured me that my nervousness was natural since I was stepping outside of my comfort zone.........and then told me to stop being a punk bitch and approach the guy before the fucking mall closes.
    ( it was three thirty in the afternoon, smartass )
    He was still standing near the tees, so I went over their and he had a simpsons shirt in his hand. I LOVE the simpsons, homer is my baby daddy ( fuck off marge)so I told him that, no really ya'll, I looked him straight in the eyes, pointed to homer and said "you do realize that that's my baby daddy right" I wasn't trying to come across "ghetto" ( which is used SO freakin loosely nowadays) but that's me damnit! He looked at me and started laughing so hard I thought for a sec that he was laughing at me! I realized he wasn't once he started to really look in my eyes, ya know, not looking all around my face but in my eyeballs. I'm tired of typing now, but too make a novel into a short story he took down my number once I explained to him that I was attracted to him. Yep, he couldn't believe that I was attracted to him. I said "Why not, you're a human aren't you". The flirting was awkard, and I kept noticing him looking around like he was waiting for a camera crew to jump out or something. Anywhoo, to sum it up, it was awkard, it was funny, it was even arousing. One down, nine more to go. Now, back to our regulary scheduled thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xBlackBettyx View Post
    Exactly. I don't get the whole black women getting pissed over white women dating black men either (man, I am on a role). I would like to see more variations of interracial relationships in movies (but it is getting better). Although, when I go out with white boyfriends I get some LOOKS from black men, women, white men, woman....some people are just close-minded.

    Whenever I'd be out with my mom, she'd get some DIRTY ass looks from black women. Kind of the "Oh. You took one our OURS and have kids with him. Hmp."

    But sorry for thread hi-jacking lol
    Oh lawd! Lol, I peeped your comment, and I've been hiding out in The Lounge to avoid it, lmao. But I said keep it real *does the sign of the cross* Let's get gully!

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    This is a very touchy topic for discussion..... I love it!! Some things need to be said and put on the table within our community. Therefore please keep in mind ladies that we are here solely to learn, educate, and grow. Let's keep it civil



    xBlackBettyx I can't tell you enough how this subject disturbs me. It makes me uncomfortable on both ends. My half sister is mixed, our mother is black and her pops is white. This debate is an on going one within my family. I can't speak on behalf of the way some white women may feel when they see black men with white women, but I know that the older generation of black women still struggle with this. I believe change is happening within OUR generation, but some women fifty and above are stuck in their ways. Hence they pass that poison on to their young un's ( yep, youngun's....sue me).

    My stance on this is borderline. I believe in love, I believe in love despite color, I think mixed babies are so freakin precious and they grow up to be very well rounded accepting adults. But... I think black men need to stand the fuck up! Sometimes it feels as though we have been abandoned and stolen! You see, drugs have tore our communities apart, and the men are partly to blame. And instead of cleaning up their mess, some never come back when they reach a certain point. Whether it's the meth addict on the street, or the executive in a suit, both of these brotha's may trade for different reasons. Now this is where I must insist their is a differance. If you're in love, you're in love, congratulations I won't throw shade. But when a black man dates another race because he thinks it's "trading up" that.shit.hurts.to.the.core! It implys that I'm not good enough for you. I was good enough for you when we were struggling and you couldn't keep a job, but you got a lil money and want to act brand new now! That's when it's unacceptable. When it's done out of love I embrace it, but when it's done out of pure blasphmey towards your own people, that's wrong. Now, I can understand making it in an industry and when you reach the top options are limited, that's understandable. But blantatly going out of your way to date a white woman just to "maintain" your credibility of "I made it" sucks. NOT neccesarily because she's white, but because of the mans intent behind his action. Men like that disgrace me because they are ashamed of who they are, and apparantly he seeks approval from others. Men like that are better off where they're at, good riddance. Whew, that was a mouth full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by layka View Post
    Okay, I went to Hot Topic ( thanks Susan ) and I approached this cutey with pink hair and tatts. Just my type, I don't like a prissy man, anywhoo. I decided not to tone down my usual style of dress...afterall...this is a social experiment. I wore semi modest black tank, hell, I'm lying, it was a hoochie top. Anyhoo, I wore that and my favorite pair of House of Dereon jeans. To top it off, I wore very ethnic accessories such as my jamaican flag bracelet, I was determined to keep it real with myself. I made my way to Hot Topic and focused on focusing on white guys. I threw my flirty eyes, I switched my hips ( ever so slightly, don't want to scare off the gentlemen) and.............. a big fat nothing! So, I regrouped and headed into the store. Hot Topic is one of my favorite stores anyway, but this time I entered with more on my mind than fishnets. I spotted my first target near the tees. I smiled at him.....and he smiled back politely, shit. He smiled at me as though I was a store associate, not the hot African Goddess coming to scoop him up.

    Sooooooooooooo, I did what any girl would do, I called up my dearest girlfriend and asked her what the hell was I doing! She reassured me that my nervousness was natural since I was stepping outside of my comfort zone.........and then told me to stop being a punk bitch and approach the guy before the fucking mall closes.
    ( it was three thirty in the afternoon, smartass )
    He was still standing near the tees, so I went over their and he had a simpsons shirt in his hand. I LOVE the simpsons, homer is my baby daddy ( fuck off marge)so I told him that, no really ya'll, I looked him straight in the eyes, pointed to homer and said "you do realize that that's my baby daddy right" I wasn't trying to come across "ghetto" ( which is used SO freakin loosely nowadays) but that's me damnit! He looked at me and started laughing so hard I thought for a sec that he was laughing at me! I realized he wasn't once he started to really look in my eyes, ya know, not looking all around my face but in my eyeballs. I'm tired of typing now, but too make a novel into a short story he took down my number once I explained to him that I was attracted to him. Yep, he couldn't believe that I was attracted to him. I said "Why not, you're a human aren't you". The flirting was awkard, and I kept noticing him looking around like he was waiting for a camera crew to jump out or something. Anywhoo, to sum it up, it was awkard, it was funny, it was even arousing. One down, nine more to go. Now, back to our regulary scheduled thread.

    Miss Luscious, oh Miss Luscious, where art thou Miss Luscious. Hey, get yo ass back in here, lol!
    O.O That is awesome! See?! It's not because white guys don't like black women, that's not it at all....they think we're not interested in them. SOOOO did it go any further?! I gots ta KNOW!

    You should really write all this down, make a book out of or something cause I was glued to that screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by layka View Post
    Miss Luscious, oh Miss Luscious, where art thou Miss Luscious. Hey, get yo ass back in here, lol!
    I'm here. I just haven't really seen any discusion between the WOC about the industry so I've just been sitting back waiting for the discusion to start.

    I do have a little topic starter though:

    Do you prefer to work in black clubs or white clubs and why? Where do you find it is easier to make money? How does your body style effect your earnings in different clubs?

    Discuss. I'll put my $.08 in a bit.
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    I'm here. I just haven't really seen any discusion between the WOC about the industry so I've just been sitting back waiting for the discusion to start.

    I do have a little topic starter though:

    Do you prefer to work in black clubs or white clubs and why? Where do you find it is easier to make money? How does your body style effect your earnings in different clubs?

    Discuss. I'll put my $.08 in a bit.

    exactly! I'll be back to answer your questions though
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    To answer your question Luscious, up here in TO we don't have "black" or "white" clubs but we have clubs with more WOC dancers or white dancers. I prefer to work in clubs where the money is made in the champagne room instead of off tonnes of different custies. Even though these clubs are hit and miss, I find that when I have a good night, it's really really good.

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    i think that if you are refferring to anyone by they colr then you are in the wrong. people are people and its because of narrow minded people that cant leave the black, white brown or fucking green issue alone is why racism exist. you dont have to be black to have a big ass or white to have beautiful hair. stop hating and live life man?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post

    I do have a little topic starter though:

    Do you prefer to work in black clubs or white clubs and why? Where do you find it is easier to make money? How does your body style effect your earnings in different clubs?

    Discuss. I'll put my $.08 in a bit.
    Well, it seem's like I first had to establish the reason behind this thread....
    ( to try to tone down the amount of idiotic responses as displayed below )
    Don't want to step on anyone's heels. Thanks for your starter questions boo.

    I prefer both for different reasons. I like white clubs because I feel more exotic and in demand at moments. I also like gown clubs because they make you feel like such a lady, yet a freaky one. I love to work in black clubs because I feel at home, comfotable, and I love to unleash my wild side without being labeled. I can give a mean lapdance at some clubs without looking raunchy. I also like the competition. I won't feel so down on myself if I have a lousy night at a black club because I'm competiting with similar women, but I'm my own competition at a predominatly white club....which can lead to self esteem issues if I have consecutive bad nights.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoe jane View Post
    i think that if you are refferring to anyone by they colr then you are in the wrong. people are people and its because of narrow minded people that cant leave the black, white brown or fucking green issue alone is why racism exist. you dont have to be black to have a big ass or white to have beautiful hair. stop hating and live life man?!!
    WTF?? Honey.... I don't mean any harm, but what are you talking about? I don't even have the energy to explain such a vast issue, but why do you think simply not discussing a problem will magically make it go away. The funny thing is that I've found people who are hesistant to discuss the issue are usually the one's in denial. This world isn't comprised off of well wishes and kisses, if it was that simple racisim wouldn't exisit Narrow minded people are those that CANT think outside of the box..............Hmmmm..... Just think about it ( And while you're at it, please read the original post on the first page that I made. Maybe...just maybe....you can't fathom the idea of discussion because you can't relate. Just a thought)
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    Oh yeah, and I've experienced more difficulty in getting hired in an upscale club due to my shape. I'm thick, and they're no apologies about it But once I gained more weight black clubs appeared more eager to hire me, while predominately white clubs tended to frown upon my brown round, hee hee, my booty don't bite. But several caucasion managers act as though it would jump out and attack their clientele.... The only possible solution to this would be to lose weight. I don't mind losing weight, but I love looking like a woman, I thik skinny can look juvenile on some people. Well, some black women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoe jane View Post
    i think that if you are refferring to anyone by they colr then you are in the wrong. people are people and its because of narrow minded people that cant leave the black, white brown or fucking green issue alone is why racism exist. you dont have to be black to have a big ass or white to have beautiful hair. stop hating and live life man?!!
    Girl, I just peeped your thread . Yep, the one about interracial dating. Question? You of ALL people if you're dating outside of your race need to speak on the issues of color!!! Your man need's your support! Don't front!
    Why are you busting up in my thread acting as though race is of no concern to you if you have devouted an entire thread to an discussion of race???? Baby girl, don't dismiss the issues of color as a way of creating an barrier. You should know firsthand now that just ignoring the issue won't make it go away, more importantly it won't exactly help you to come to grips with the reality around you.

    *WOC please welcome zoe jane in this thread, apparantly home girl is hurting and I want to show her some love. But also help her to not run from the problem, but attack it head on*

    Zoe jane please pull up a chair, we must speak on things related to stripping while black (out of fear of losing jayda fine ass, and Miss Luscious sexy self) but I would love to help you deal with this issue.

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    I prefer black clubs because I feel more comfortable with the clientele.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoe jane View Post
    i think that if you are refferring to anyone by they colr then you are in the wrong. people are people and its because of narrow minded people that cant leave the black, white brown or fucking green issue alone is why racism exist. you dont have to be black to have a big ass or white to have beautiful hair. stop hating and live life man?!!
    WTF? You're fucking a negro and now you're all we are the world, "I don't see color". You might have the luxury of pretending race doesn't exist, you can strip at any club you want, appear in any porn you want, date anyone you want, but we blacks have to realize race on a daily basis. If someone's not interested in you, you don't have to wonder if it's because you're white. You don't have to be black to have a big ass or white to have *ahem* "beautiful hair" (this is the crap we have to hear sistas) but you can't seriously tell me that you can't tell that someone like layka is black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layka View Post

    WTF?? Honey.... I don't mean any harm, but what are you talking about? I don't even have the energy to explain such a vast issue, but why do you think simply not discussing a problem will magically make it go away. The funny thing is that I've found people who are hesistant to discuss the issue are usually the one's in denial. This world isn't comprised off of well wishes and kisses, if it was that simple racisim wouldn't exisit Narrow minded people are those that CANT think outside of the box..............Hmmmm..... Just think about it ( And while you're at it, please read the original post on the first page that I made. Maybe...just maybe....you can't fathom the idea of discussion because you can't relate. Just a thought)
    Wow - so someone tries to be optimistic and have a positive attitude and all of a sudden you label them "idiotic", "narrow minded" and insult their intelligence?

    WAY TO GO. You start a thread and expect everyone to think the way you do. And anyone who doesn't is living under a rock, right? You might wanna put your superiority complex in check.

    You might have time to "redeem yourself".

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    that person doesn't have a 'positive attitude'. they are doing the white-privilege thing of 'oh i'm fuckin' me a colored person, so now i don't "see race" and anyone else who does is omg keeping racisms alive!'

    if fucking interracially could make racism disappear, slavery in america would have lasted like .1 second. and it is so often white people dating 'ethnic' who want to bust out with how we should all be colorblind, as if AGAIN it's OUR fault. always it's US who have to change our view, never them.

    meh.

    on-topic, the hardest thing about being a black dancer for me was being turned down at soooo many clubs, plenty of them mediocre, or being told days-only when the management knew days were DEAD or extras-ridden (or both). i would be so scared to leave a club that had hired me because i wasn't sure i would be able to get hired anywhere else and make money. so i 'settled' for good but not great money that was very very consistent, and didn't travel as much as i perhaps should have to maximise income.

    the second hardest thing was the idea in so many white dancers' (and sadly a lot of black dancers too) minds that black dancers simply should NOT make as much or more than they do justdancing, or low contact, or airdancing. i mean, the resentment and bile when i was generously stage tipped at a mostly white club was palpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    the second hardest thing was the idea in so many white dancers' (and sadly a lot of black dancers too) minds that black dancers simply should NOT make as much or more than they do justdancing, or low contact, or airdancing.
    That is hard, and messed up.

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    I think that zoe jane was saying that focusing on racism and worrying about color only causes problems for everyone involved. It's a little different from burying your head in the sand, but rather looking past it and being the best person/dancer you can be without setting up thought obstacles for yourself because of some perceived prejudice.
    If you're gonna sit in the dressing room all night bitching about "Why can't I make money? I must be because I'm [black, white, mexican, indian, american, australian, etc etc etc].", then you're only short changing yourself.
    I think she's just doing the "why can't we all get along" thing. And I understand it. After all, should John Lennon not have written the song, "Imagine"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex View Post
    It's a little different from burying your head in the sand, but rather looking past it and being the best person/dancer you can be without setting up thought obstacles for yourself because of some perceived prejudice.
    If you're gonna sit in the dressing room all night bitching about "Why can't I make money? I must be because I'm [black, white, mexican, indian, american, australian, etc etc etc].", then you're only short changing yourself.
    AAARRGGGG!!! Alexxa I really do like you but this pissed me off to no end. We are not making this up in our heads!!!! In this industry we really are discriminated against because of our race. And being white (however "alternative" you may be) you simply do not and can not understand.
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    Maybe you didn't read my post above Luscious, where I explained how I am a minority in LA because I'm white. I do know what it's like to be discriminated against in BOTH respects. It's not like I can just cover up my tattoos either.

    What I am saying is rather than dwell on it, why not try harder to succeed because of it? I think this thread is good because it IS making everyone pissed off. Hell, I'M pissed off about a lot of the racist stuff that has been said here too. WE ALL need to think about this.

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    Alexxa, do these seem like the kind of dancers who sit in the dressing room bitching? I haven't heard one peep about that in this thread. They're talking about very real problems, like even getting in the door of the damn club because of idiot managers with ethnic quotas in their heads, particular body/beauty issues, and how white dudes react to them.

    Miabella worked in a city with a majority black and hispanic population (white chicks are a "minority" there as well) and still had to deal with anxiety about getting hired at better clubs because she's not white. Also, you might be in the "minority" in LA but you know who else is in the minority? Rich people. It just isn't the same. I was in the minority growing up in South Texas as an Anglo, and let me tell you, the whole (white) country club in my hometown there is just crying into their martinis about the prejudice they deal with.

    Anyone who tattoos "Evil Cunt" on her stomach is purposefully choosing to set herself out of the more employable mainstream of the sex industry (and prepared to always wear one-pieces on family beaches). Your "difference" is cultural, not ethnic. No comparison.

    Nothing in this thread is self-pitying or anything but the truth; I have seen incredibly beautiful black dancers turned away by nasty racist management in Austin, which is supposed to be one of our more liberal cities. It makes my jaw drop and I cannot begin to imagine how shitty it is to add that on to everything that automatically comes with this job. I won't even pretend that there's any experience I can have that would be comparable.

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    Susan, I don't pretend to know what it's like to be black either. And I haven't said anything to lead anyone to think that.
    All I am saying is that I understand what it is like to be in the face of discrimination. Period. I'm not crying about being white. I am using the difference in my appearance and race to play a specific financial angle. And I am encouraging everyone to make lemonade out of lemons as well, whatever their circumstances (racial or cultural) may be. I am saying there is no reason to DWELL...yes, I know there are some asshole managers with "racial quotas" and they suck and should be shot in the head. I LOVE black women, I love ALL races and types of women and yes it makes me sick when ANY woman is made to feel like shit because of any aspect of her BEING.
    I am saying here that I UNDERSTAND and I AM WITH YOU.

    I got this tattoo (among other large ones) long before I became a dancer. Do I feel that it's okay that managers will not hire me sometimes because of that tattoo, regardless of my good personality, work ethic, hustle and stage skills? Do I think it's fair that a Mexican/South American dancer will almost always have more pull than me in LA clubs? No.
    Do I accept it as part of the business and move on? Do I know that life is generally unfair and just learn to live with it, look for positives and concentrate on how I CAN succeed instead of how I am always being set back? Yes.

    I am merely suggesting that the same frame of mind can work for black dancers (because yes, I do care), yet I am flamed. It's okay. I don't expect that everyone will WANT a possible solution or even a slight suggestion on how to handle their business. If this thread was designed for only black dancers to come here and complain, conspire and discuss...then whatever. I would just hate to see what would happen if someone told a black dancer she had no idea about a "white issue". It's the double standard that some posters have shown here that I have a problem with.

    p.s. - I don't cover up the "Evil Cunt" either - not in front of kids, old people, whoever. It's a very deep statement that I feel very personal about. It is a part of me, just as any of my freckles or birthmarks. It is my art, therefore it is me.

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    AAARRGGGG!!! Alexxa I really do like you but this pissed me off to no end. We are not making this up in our heads!!!! In this industry we really are discriminated against because of our race. And being white (however "alternative" you may be) you simply do not and can not understand.
    Of course she can't understand what it's like to be black and be discriminated in a lot of different areas of life (not just stripping - but A LOT of things). Being discriminated because of the color of your skin isn't a good thing to have to go through but as women of color unfortunately, we learn to live with it. But that is not saying she doesn't know what discrimination feels likes.

    Whether you're being discriminated because you're too skinny, too fat, too short, too dark, too light, too white, a woman, a man, too hispanic, too black, too asian, too alternative, too normal, too big boned, too small boned, still hurts (Of course, some you can't compare with being discriminated against because of your skin color).

    I can't change my skin color, Someone can't change the fact that they're naturally tall or short either - I feel for all kinds of discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination. It all makes you feel shitty unless you hold your head and keep going.
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    I think that zoe jane was saying that focusing on racism and worrying about color only causes problems for everyone involved.
    I think that Zoe is actually the one focusing on racism Alexxa. If race, color means nothing to her then she woudln't have made a thread about how her family dislikes her man so much and why it's a problem.







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    I didn't get that negative feeling that other people seemed to get from her response. Maybe it's because I didn't read her other thread. Regardless, there are more important issues to discuss...I hate to see threads sidetracked to deal with semantics and personal things. I speak my mind regardless but I feel as though I've said everything I can. If someone doesn't get it or wants to argue, that's cool. I'm still going to read here.
    This issue is important to me as I feel it affects EVERYONE. We're all connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex View Post
    I didn't get that negative feeling that other people seemed to get from her response. Maybe it's because I didn't read her other thread. Regardless, there are more important issues to discuss...I hate to see threads sidetracked to deal with semantics and personal things. I speak my mind regardless but I feel as though I've said everything I can. If someone doesn't get it or wants to argue, that's cool. I'm still going to read here.
    This issue is important to me as I feel it affects EVERYONE. We're all connected.
    Wow, alot has transpired since my abscence. I just want you to actually hear me out AlexxaHex, no seriously. As you read this don't glance over my statement with a response already prepared, I want you to really hear me out. You said alot of unneccessary comments. Lol, I can take it though because I'm used to people jumping down my throat when I say something that makes them uncomfortable. Apparently I made you feel uneasy.....why.....I dunno Why are you repeatdly urging me to "take it". Why do you have a problem with me speaking my mind towards the ill treatment that I may recieve as a black dancer? Why does it bother you? I urge you to take a look at my first post, if you can't find it I will do the leg work for ya. I clearly stated that I hate whiners, I hate people who complain without looking for a way to stimulate change. I believe change starts with discussing the matter at hand. Have you noticed the warm reception I give you EVERY time you post. The reason being is not because I like kissing ass, but I pride myself off of giving people a chance, I'm giving you a chance to understand my plight. The reason being is that I don't dislike you, I don't dislike white people ( my stapefather is white for Christsakes) I want you to understand what we may deal with because through your own experience you can spread the knowledge and love onto other people that I may never be able to reach.

    You seem like a good hearted person, but you really seem as though you're fighting the wrong fight. Yes, I truly believe you love black people, but what good is loving me if you're not willing to stand up for me. I'm admittely teary eyed as I type this because your confusion scares me. I wonder how many more people out their are mumbling to themselves "Won't they just get over it" Well, I want to ask you something, why the fuck don't I over hear people asking why jewish people don't get over the Holocaust? Please, I beg of you to tell me why their aren't toms of people who think they're overreacting. Sure, they're skeptics that believe the Holocaust may never have occured, but those are far few and between. Yes, you may experience racisim, no doubt about that.

    But my people are still recovering, our egos have been shattered, our men have been raped, I have NO, allow me to repeat NO concept of my ancestory, and I'm judged based off of the melanin of my skin!!! I would choose being an outcast due to tattoos anyday, operative word..CHOICE. It's a big difference, and you suggesting that it's not is hurtful and insulting. Don't be too quick to jump down my throat for calling out zoejane, I said before that I would call out random insensitive comments. Nothing wrong with that, because like I said before YOU have the option of responding back.

    I also welcomed Zoejane because I identified with her pain, if you don't believe me go back and read my post. I don't want this to be a "pity party" but who the hell said it was???? This entire community has several posts a day titled "RANT" or "I HAD THE WORST FUCKIN NIGHT" so YOU my dear are actually trying to censor me funny how these things play out. Why can't I RANT over how sucky it is to be a black dancer sometimes? I couldn't make this shit up even if I wanted to! I also want women who may deal with discrimination feel welcome to speak about it. If I didn't speak on the racisit shit that I've dealt with do you wanna know how fucked up I would be? Do you even realize that although speaking about it may not "solve" anything just talking about it amongst my peers allows me to continue to love white people. If I was to keep my experiences bottled up inside of me
    ( like you have suggested, only you sugarcoated it)


    I would have been a bitter, evil, hateful person towards white people who would give their life for me.People who don't deserve my ill feelings. And I'll be damned if I take your advice and "move on", to do so would be dismissing the pain that my sistuhs put their are experiencing. This is bigger than you and I Alexxa, right now I'm speaking on behalf of the voiceless. I'm speaking on behalf of those who have died for my freedom, white and black. I will not ignore color related issues and put my ancestors to shame. I'm speaking out on behalf of that beautiful damaged woman who doesn't feel appreciated. I'm speaking out on behalf of the leaders both black and white that fought their asses off to get me this far.

    I don't ever want to toss aside others feelings and experiences. Without certain white people freedom would never have exsisted. I acknowledge that, therefore I'm determined to love withou bias. So why is it wrong for me to hold out hope that one day maybe others will join in.

    Other people may rant in this forum to relieve stress, so why is it so hard for you to understand that I need to rant over issues of color!!! Color related issues shouldn't be tapped danced around, especially by the folk experiencing it. Sure, I ignore racisit comments, theirs a time and place for everything. But if I kept my issues inside, if we all do, it breeds contempt. I love ya'll, I don't want to pass a white person on the street and not be able to relate, What about you? You're really acting as though my statements are irrational, if so I beg for anyone who I may have offended forgiveness. But while you continue to leave in your perfect world, I'll be still searching for a club with the first words out of my mouth being " Do they hire black girls". Much peace to you babydoll, you're not a lost cause. I have faith that just being able to discuss amognst us may bring you closer to the truth.

    In the meantime, Relate, Relax, Release. Peace
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