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    Angry Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    We all know how nasty other dancers can get..especially when you have a great night and they dont. So I got one guy in the champagne room for 3 hours, it was a very slow night. Later that week I was dancing for a really gropey guy, but as usual I didnt let him get what he was trying for. He kept asking for more dances, so I kept going, moving away and ect when he tried something. 3 days later mgmt asks me about sucking guys off in the back, apperantly its been reported 'several' times, which is insane because its something I refuse to do! Anyone who knows me, knows that. It just bugs me, I dont mess with the other girls, I try to stay out of all the constant drama and just do my own thing. I've let things go, ignored a lot, and still they pull this? Mgmt has threatened to fire me if they hear it much more, which worries me, every other local club is kinda..nasty. All I know to do is continue as usual and try to ignore the bs, but it doesnt mean I have to be thrilled about it. People are evil.. Similar rantings or advice?

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    that sucks. everyone is always saying the top earners in my club are letting the guys finger them and so on but i dont believe them. i make my judgments on how the girl comes across to me. id be so pissed off if i wasnt a dirty girl but ppl were saying i was cos they were jealous. to be honest, i dont know what advice to give you except to enlighten your management to the possibility that the girls may be saying that because theyre jealous?

    ppl tend to forget what bitches girls are.
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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Lisbeth, do you have any idea who the jealous bitch is that keeps spreading these rumors?

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Sadly, yes it is possible. But it's ridiculous for you to be fired when management has no proof other than gossip - which we all know is rampant in the dressing room. And especially when every time someone tries to get the girl who really IS giving blow jobs, etc, even full service in the back fired or at least scolded by management they always say "well we have no proof" even when theres a box of condoms in their locker. I hope it goes okay for you.

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    I've had girls talk sh*t about me to management. You can read their body language when they really feel threatened by you money-wise.

    Tell management (with no defensiveness) the truth, which is, you like working there and do not want to jeapordize your job. They are welcome to keep an eye on you since you're not doing anything bad. & They should consider their sources.

    Pay your fees & tip-outs on time (with a big smile) & I dont' see any more trouble.

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    I had it happen to me. I was new and making 2X the amount that the house girls were making. They tried bullying and intimidating me by accusing me of giving away "free" shows and whatnot. The girls claiming I was dancing for "free" (the customers had to pay security before we could do a dance, so I'm not sure how that is possible??). It was the DJ that ultimately got me fired. He was in the habit of extorting the dancers for additional tips (he already got 10% of everything we earned off the top, before we ever saw our $$). Most of the girls would give him about $50-60 a just in his percentage, but he wanted more and would push the dancers for another $20-40 a shift in tip outs.

    I was stupid and didn't realize that he was looking for more cash beyond what was mandatory, so he went to the owner to say that I was giving "free" dances as well as hooking on the side with customers I met in the club.

    When the owner came to me and asked me to pay the house cut of the "free" dances, I told her that I've never done a free dance, ever. She believed the pimp wanna be and the bitchy girls over me. So I quit. I was vindicated, though. Other new girls came in and had the same problems and she eventually figured out that it was 4 girls and the DJ that were causing all the drama. She apologized and asked me to return after firing the lying girls and DJ.

    But, yeah, I was fired for doing something I didn't do.


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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Gah..I'm telling you..people are evil. I dont know any specific girls that would be saying these things..like I said, I keep out of the drama, do my thing and go. When the manager I work with most often asked me about it I thought he was joking at first. When I found out he was serious I'm sure he could tell I was shocked, I've been honest, always paid my tip out and smiled, maybe joked around with him or the dj, like I always do. I just really hope it works out in the end..its annoying when you know girls who will do anything and everything in the back, but they never get as much as a dirty look for it, I dont do anything and they threaten my job. Guess we'll hope for the best!

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Yes, unfortunately there are a lot of jealous girls in this business who will try to get top earners fired instead of trying to become better at their jobs. I've noticed this happens a lot more in the smaller clubs than in larger ones. At one small club I worked at, I was doing 2 to 3 times as many dances as most of the other dancers simply because I hustled and did my job and most of them sat in the dressing room complaining all night. The manager told me that she heard I was making out with customers (which I was not doing.) There were cameras all over the place in this club, so my response was to watch the cameras and see if I was doing anything wrong.

    Does your club have cameras in the lap dance room? That would be a good way to prove you're not doing anything wrong. I hope everything works out for you.






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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    It boils down to all dancers having "credibility" problems these days due to the Hollywood Sterotype - i.e. clubowners, people in the law enforcement community, 'normal' people not connected with the exotic dancing industry etc. all having the preconception that any given dancer may in fact be the Hollywood Stereotype lying, thieving, drug abusing whore who would say or do anything if she thought it was in her own best interest.

    These days, in the absence of 'hard' proof i.e. club security tapes positively showing what a particular girl was or was not doing, it pretty much boils down to a credibility issue. If that means a judge taking the word of a dancer over the word of a cop, the dancer will lose every time. If that means a clubowner taking the word of one dancer over the word of a dozen other dancers, the lone dancer will lose every time.

    In the case of a firing, since dancers work as independent contractors they do not have any 'protection' via state Labor Laws the way that 'employees' would. The clubowner is not legally obligated to prove wrongdoing on the part of any independent contractor dancer that he decided to fire. This situation is not very fair, but it is very real.

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    Anything is possible, best of luck to you.

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Unfortunately, no, theres no cameras back there, though there should be. Although Melanie, that does make sense, I guess I forgot we're technically contractors and not employees. Well, heres hoping for the best! Thanks for the support guys!

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    Im mad reading this. I know we take oour clothes off for money but what other job ccould u get accused of giving headjobs - fuck how insulting.

    I got accused of leaving the club with a guy one time just coz the stupid doorman saw me walk out at the same time as a patron who i didn't even talk to in the club.

    I kicked up such a fucking fuss that I got an apology from management.

    Best of luck to u.
    Maybe look for a better club, if possible.

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    I was fired from my last club for 'giving head in the vip'. I was there for one song! (the manager knew that too, and still fired me). It was due to these two women... one of them was definitely dirty by the club's standards (very strict) and was the center of a lot of complaints by other girls. Her cohort told her and they decided to get me fired.

    What goes around comes around though. The main antagonist got fired a few days later for drugs in her bag. The other girl ended up working one shift at my current club, where I'm very happy and a top earner. So nyah to them!

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    This happened to another dancer (she was asked about her dances and threatened with being fired.) So, she told them they could choose whichever couch they wanted her to give dances on and she would stick with that couch at all times.
    This couch was directly next to the couch dance watcher and he was able to report to management that she earned her dances fair and square and wasn't doing anything wrong.
    Of course, this didn't stop the catty girls from claiming she was still doing stuff, ha ha.. Some girls really just don't give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsy_girlchild View Post
    This happened to another dancer (she was asked about her dances and threatened with being fired.) So, she told them they could choose whichever couch they wanted her to give dances on and she would stick with that couch at all times.
    This couch was directly next to the couch dance watcher and he was able to report to management that she earned her dances fair and square and wasn't doing anything wrong.
    Of course, this didn't stop the catty girls from claiming she was still doing stuff, ha ha.. Some girls really just don't give up.
    girls have accused me of doing extras and things which isn't true at all. what boggles my mind is why they have to rip on someone else when they could just learn to do their own jobs better. i didn't become a top earner at my last club by bringing another dancer down. i studied the DW home study course and read sales books.

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    Default Re: Is it possible to get fired for something you didnt do? (rant)

    i got fired from dayshift at one club full of girls who let their regs eat them out because 'a customer' (anonymous of course) claimed i was arranging dates for 100$ a pop OTC. I was making around that per hour on dayshift doing low contact dances, so it was a total WTF moment for me.

    and then at my two primary clubs, i was routinely thought to be doing extras due to either getting lots of money off one customer, making 'too many stage tips for a black girl', or just generally never going home with 12 bucks. and the accusations were again that i was doing it all for 40 dollars or something, even though based on how long i was in the back with given customers, the math didn't even make sense.

    anyway, that was just me venting. yes, it is eminently possible to be fired for doing, well, nothing except maybe earning above whatever station people think you 'deserve' to be in.

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    that's ridiculous, but i agree w/ everyone else this stupid shit happens, i have been i a similar situation, i guess if it were me i would try to talk to mgmt, and plead your case. unfortunatley clubs "terminate" our contracts for whatever they want to terminate them for

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    I got fired from this one club I had been working at for like 3 months.

    This one dancer/house mom saw me smelling a drink, I did not drink it, but she said I did. Well I talk with the real house mom and told her that I was only smelling the drink, and she could go over to the guy that had the drink and it was still there.

    Anyways I was not fired that day, but this woman then had it out for me. She told me to my face she did not like me or trust me and knew I was doing something wrong.

    So then about two weeks later, she comes over to me and was like can you pay house now, and I was like sure. Then I even gave her some money, thinking that maybe if I keep tipping her out she might be nice to me.

    Then after that she is like can you come into the office you have not done anything wrong I just need to talk to you. So I go, and the floor manager some in, and she starts yelling at me that I am drunk, and I was like I had nothing to drink that night.

    She told me I was falling over and being too happy. I was like what the hell!!!! I got new shoes so I was breaking them in and yes I tripped now and then but come on.

    And happy?

    And she told me if I was not drinking then I must be on drugs. For being happy! They said I am being let go but I can talk with the real manager in the morning if I would like. I got fired for being happy!

    Anyway I found a better club, making more money, and I am much happier now!
    So there!!!!

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