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    Ann Coulter put her foot in her mouth AGAIN at the C-PAC convention with a clumsy "joke" that she didn't want to have to go to "rehab" and thus couldn't call John Edwards a "faggot".
    On Hannity & Colmes last night she tried to explain that she was "joking"; that everyone knows Edwards has a wife and kids and thus is "not gay" ( Of course Ann. Gay men never get married and have kids.) Her "rehab"reference was to Grey's Anatomy actor Isiah Washington having to apologize and attend sensitivity classes for calling Mr. Knight ( his co-star who is gay ) a faggot
    not once, but twice.(Even though ABC was perfectly within its rights to make that a condition for his staying on the show.) She tried to wave off the whole thing by saying it was just a "schoolyard taunt". ( Well that's NOT where serious Conservatives want the debate to be
    and Republicans are going to have a hard enough time winning in '08 without her stupid remarks.) Lastly she welcomed the criticism claiming that it would increase her popularity with her fans and help her sell more books. ( Which is obviously the only thing she REALLY cares about.) Incredibly, she claimed that Republicans were the "real pro-gay Party" because of anti-crime and low tax policies !!!! She said it. I didn't.

    Well maybe not this time. Her biggest critics are now conservatives who were in attendance and were offended by her remark. All three Republican presidential candidates who were present condemned it. George Will has stated: "the less said about Ann Coulter, the better".
    Michele Malkin was highly critical and challenged Coulter to come after her.

    Afaic, this was just the latest stupid remark from this ignorant brat and far from her worst.The worst was probably when she said that 9/11 widows were "reveling in" and celebrating the deaths of their husbands and calling them "harpies" among other things.

    Her books which she touts as "scholarly" works have been shown to be anything but. In TREASON she tried to paint Joe McCarthy
    (McCARTHY ! ) as an American "hero" for exposing Commies in the U.S. gov't (while ignoring all the damage he did) and the fact that HE never actually exposed a single Soviet mole which we NOW know had infiltrated the State Dept. Likewise, she sings the praises of J.Edgar Hoover while ignoring all of his sins and peccadillos and who in fact completely failed to uncover a single Soviet agent and who was so busy chasing Commies that he let Organized Crime run rampant in the 50's and early 60's. Likewise, her book GODLESS is nothing more than a silly screed against multi-cultural tolerance and the attempt by some of us to maintain a secular state.

    I think she gives Conservative thought and ideas a bad name and wish she'd shutup. "Schoolyard taunts" and other juvenile rhetoric have no place in civil discourse and serve no useful purpose whatsoever. The politics of 9/11 widows who supported Kerry and criticized Bush can be countered without cheap shots about things which are absolutely none of Coulter's business.

    She doesn't even follow the rules of her own web-site which do not permit name calling or personal insults of the hostess. What would be added to serious political discourse by calling her a "horse's ass" or commenting on her anorexic appearance ?

    Therefore I'm going to anncoulter.com and will post on her free forum. Without name calling or personal insult I'm going to call her out and see if she can take it as well as she dishes it out. I invite everyone who feels as I do to do likewise but ask that you NOT get down to her level and name-call or insult. Just slap her in the face with factual correctives to her blather and pull her panties down on her own web-site.
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    Yep, pretty much agree with all you've said. But what also disturbs me the most is the crowd appluading after she made her flammatory comment. That's freaky that so many people applauded her statements.....
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    I have always thought Ann Coutler is an evil bitch who only appealed to people with similar character flaws.

    I doubt her latest actions will ruin her because those who like her often aren't the most intelligent or good hearted people to begin with so I'm sure they could care less about her using homophobic language. In fact, I bet they enjoyed it.

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    She's disguisting.

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    Singing the praises of J Edgar Hoover and McCarthy? Oh Lord, the hypocricy never ends with her does it?

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    Tabytha- I can't make some of this stuff up ! Yes, in TREASON, Coulter tries to paint McCarthy and Hoover as "heroes". Afaic, it's perfectly fine to say that the State Dept. was iniltrated by Soviet agents in the 30's through the 50's. That's just a historical fact. BUT all McCarthy ever did was run around claiming he had "the names of 100 Communist agents in the State Dept. " etc. He never turned over a single name or produced a scrap of real evidence. He probably served to alert actual agents who obviously watched their backs and covered their tracks and were never caught. What DID happen was that many a qualified, dedicated and LOYAL person who may have attended the "wrong" meeting in their youth
    or had the "wrong" friend or went to the "wrong" cocktail party had to resign or found themselves spilling their guts about people they barely knew just to try and keep their jobs. Same thing with Hoover.
    Coulter comes along and says "Aha ! Look at all the Commies and Com-symps McCarthy and Hoover drove out of our government" and "shame on liberal constitutional and civil liberties nit-pickers for defending these enemies of America ." It's ironic that, inter alia, the tactics she applauds when used by McCarthy and Hoover she decries when turned around and used by Libs going after Conservatives.
    Coulter has proven over and over again that she'll say ANYTHING to stir the pot and sell a book. Coulter is for Coulter and ultimately would probably prefer a Democrat President and Congress a la the first two years of Clinton. She'd have much more to write about.
    Btw, despite claiming on Hannity & Colmes that she has an "open" chat room; it's anything but. There's no way to register as a new member. Gee ! I wonder why she did that ?

    Layka- Considering that at least 90% of the audience were fans of hers, the reaction was fairly equivocal. Some laughed.Some applauded.
    Some groaned. Most stayed silent. The over- all reaction was not approving or positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Layka- Considering that at least 90% of the audience were fans of hers, the reaction was fairly equivocal. Some laughed.Some applauded.
    Some groaned. Most stayed silent. The over- all reaction was not approving or positive.

    Sorry, the fact that ANYONE applauded her after she made that comment, fan or not, still creeps me out. Laugh factory anyone? I don't remember hearing a round of applause after that tirade and the people their were fans.... I dunno, it's just a reality check for me I guess. I always want to believe that her supporters are paid actors
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    Its really been a mystery to me how that woman has a career. I've wondered if conservatives actually support her because she says the stuff they tend to secretly think to themselves. Shes taking it too far, now shes a poster child of making conservatives look bad. With Bush support in the dumps, and the American people, even those who typically voted repub, now looking for something new shes only hurting her party. Maybe shes a mole-but I doubt she's that clever. I tend to think the only thing she really cares about is air-time and her own book sales.

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    Zabrina- you're absolutely right and many Conservatives are wising up to the fact that her trash-talking and bomb throwing does not help; it hurts. George Will can't stand her and Michelle Malkin and others have stood up and condemned her remarks. Even Hannity who LOVES Ann was lukewarm in trying to help her extricate her foot from her mouth.

    Layka- Every group has extremists and yahoos of one political stripe or another.Some people like and approve of her name calling and personalizing and those are the ones who applauded her. Howard Dean has certainly said a lot of stupid things for which some applauded him. Afaic they are BOTH wrong and those that applaud their kind of intellectually empty rhetorical overkill should be ashamed.

    The scary part is that her books sell and people who don't know any better actually believe a lot of the factually delinquent garbage she produces. But then Al Franken's books sell well too and both Clintons had best sellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    The scary part is that her books sell and people who don't know any better actually believe a lot of the factually delinquent garbage she produces. But then Al Franken's books sell well too and both Clintons had best sellers.
    Lots of books sell well, I think, because of the drama aspect. I'm betting that this will especially be true of any future efforts on her part. And maybe that's what she's going for. Let's face it, sensationalism sells in this country.

    I personally think it's abhorrable to use her position in that way.

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    Even I'll agree that Ann Coulter is an caustic loudmouthed bitch. However, at $2 million+ per book plus $25,000 per speaking engagement, I'm sure that she could give a s#!t about the mainstream media heat she's getting lately.

    From a standpoint of 'free speech', I think that this whole incident actually says more about blatantly biased mainstream media coverage than anything else ...




    As to Ann Coulter being some part of a covert conservative strategy, that's not impossible. The 'tin foil hat' crowd (and this time the reference is as apt as possible) would tell you that a possible covert conservative strategy for 2008 is for conservative leadership to totally convince crossover voters that the entire conservative philosophy is laughable ... paving the way for a democratic victory in 2008 and a total return to democratic majorities in Washington. Their guiding principle was explained to me to be that there is no plausible presidential candidate from either the Dems or Repubs that will stand behind conservative principles if elected such that the conservatives have absolutely nothing to lose in 2008.



    It was further explained to me is that conservative strategists feel that their best chance for a resurgence in 2012 is to allow four years worth of Liberal / Democrat tax policies, economic policies, social policies, foreign policy etc. to have their inevitable effect on America - such that there will be enough pissed-off crossover voters in 2012 for the conservatives to actually be listened to again as a third party or, like 1980, a Reaganite Republican will emerge.

    Unfortunately, it is also probable that if/when a liberal / democrat majority is restored across the board in Washington in 2008, that all Americans will have to deal with a replay of 1976-1980 from 2008-2012 as a result of liberal / democrat policies having free rein.



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    MELONIE- Bill Maher did NOT say what American Thinker says he said. I know. I love REAL TIME and never miss a show. What Maher DID say was that if Cheney had been killed "a lot of people who would otherwise have been dead, would instead be alive today". Unfair ? Over the top ? Out of line ? Yes to all three but first of all Maher is a comedian. He does not paint himself as a "political scholar" or "historian" the way Coulter does. Don't get me wrong. I'm NOT defending Maher's remark and I think he should apologize. But he did NOT call for Cheney's assassination.

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    ^^^ personally, IMHO that's what free speech is supposed to be all about. I'm certainly not going to defend Ann Coulter, or Bill Maher. However, both are 'entertainers'.

    But Ann certainly has her supporters too ...



    The above link also has links to youtube clips of Ann giving the controversial CPAC performance, which are worth a look for perspective if nothing else.

    My favorite sound bite was where Ann describes herself as an 'all purpose right wing blowhard' !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post
    Its really been a mystery to me how that woman has a career.
    Its for the same reason that Howard Stern, Dr. Laura, and other provocative personalities have made a name for themselves. Making oneself an object of ire of so many people can be quite the lucrative enterprise, esspecially when that person also has a group of fans who think their malicious, over the top rantings are just "telling it like it is".

    Funny thing was that prior to her now infamous post 9/11 "we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" remarks, few people outside fans of conservative literature or watched Politically Incorrect knew who she was.

    I do have to say, as much as I can't stand her antics, I gotta admire the way she's making millions off these people who buy her propaganda.
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    I said it before, her mannerisms & facial expressions remind me of mental patients who have a mean streak. At least those people have an excuse, I have a scary feeling she enjoys being that way.

    Or maybe she's just angry that people point out her Adam's apple & call her "Mann Coulter."

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine View Post
    I said it before, her mannerisms & facial expressions remind me of mental patients who have a mean streak. At least those people have an excuse, I have a scary feeling she enjoys being that way.
    I have had that same thought when I've watched her.

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