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    I've worked at the following:

    Nicolai Street-
    Unlike many I love it. This is the last place that I've danced and was the only reason I put up with the constant BS from Rockstar. I've lost my shifts there for a MONTH for something that was COMPLETELY beyond my control.

    Magic Gardens-
    Love the girls and most of the bartenders but got shitty shifts and was expected to over tip the manager that makes out the schedules. The amount I was told to tip her was basically the same amount I made for the shift. Plus, I got better shifts at nicolai.

    Safari-
    Too Many girls, too few customers, too many male employees that treated the place like their own personal brothel.

    Cocktails and Dreams-
    If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all

    Boom Boom Room, Double Dribble, Montego's and Tommy's-
    Subbed there a couple of times because I was BEGGED. Got drugged @ Montego's

    So that's where I've worked. The big hustle-type "gentlemen's clubs" are not for me. I've only been rejected from one club; Devils point and that was probably because I was blond with no tattoos or piercings.

    I'm looking for something that isn't basically in the burbs, and sort of chill, where I have a chance of getting decent shifts within a reasonable amount of time.

    So with that in mind, please give me your suggestions.
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    Sassy's?

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    Yeah, I was all lined up to audition there but got hired on @ C&D before I could make it to Sassy's for my audition. Hindsight being what it is I should have passed. I'm put off by the fact that they have a pole and I can't do anything but hold on and twirl around and I feel like you have to be able to do something on the damnable thing in order to get taken on. I guess that my experience says otherwise but still. GAH!! I hate this . I hate having to look for new clubs.

    Does anyone have any opinion about Cabaret and is it even worth trying out @ Mary's?

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    Yeah, Sassy's seems to get you in pretty quickly. Looks like good money, too.

    Acropolis? Riverside Corrall? Dancin' Bare? Jody's? I have heard varying things about these clubs but they all sound somewhat decent.

    Soobie's is advertising a $1000 hiring bonus but I don't know a) if it's any good or b) how long you have to work there to get it.

    I thought Nicolai was booking some dancers independently? Most everyone I've talked to who worked there liked it a lot.

    I love Mary's to death. The most shifts anyone gets there is three a week. Anyone. And there are only three dancers there who get more than one night shift a week. But if you can get in there, the nights are great and the days/mids can be good, too. It is absolutely worth trying out there, 100%, because if it's your kind of club you'll love it. Count on needing to work somewhere else too, though.

    That's kind of the deal with the great stage-money clubs: it's not easy to just jump in and start getting prime shifts at them since girls tend to stick around once they find a good one. If you're much hotter than the norm or have a killer stage show, it might happen, but it's tough.

    LOL at getting rejected from DP for being blond and un-inked; I thought the same thing myself when I went there for fun one night.

    Several of us (anomar, holiday, myself) keep recommending the "hustle clubs" (Stars, Dolphins I and II, Exotica, Viewpoint) because we're comfortable with the hustle (and the money -- are you sure you don't want to learn? )

    Finally, you've worked at all those clubs? Put up some reviews, woman! Contribute to the massive PDX knowledge base we're building here.

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    Well I thought that "reviews" meant that other people posted reviews about you.

    Acropolis seems too swank for me. Also there was a situation there. The extremely readers digest cambells soup version is that a customer at a club got me fired with his bad behaviour and to make it up to me said that he would get me on at acropolis where his "cousin" was the manager. He lied and I looked like an idiot. As for the swank places. How to put this delicately, At a place like Magic or Nicolai or Dino's I'm scorching hot. At a place like Safari or Dolphin or stars or whatever have you I would be ugly based upon my real nails and my unwillingness to have fake boobs. Worse yet a month at safari had me asking for referrals for plastic surgeons and that's no good. I guess the hustle thing, and more power to you if you're comfortable with it but when I hear hustle, I take it to mean lying to get money out of people and any time I've tried the hustle thing, at least as I understand it goes, I feel ucky and I've even heard "don't hustle me". My bad if I'm wrong. Now I do remember someone telling me to work during the day at a stars or a dolphin and that could be fine because I could have my nights free. It's just that everything is so darn stressful right now, I have to get my rent in, and in order to to do that I have to get work and in order to that I have to go in for auditions with auntie flo and her cotton donkey tagging along.

    SIGH. If someone knows for a fact that nicolai will book girls independantly, and they DO LIKE ME THERE ( I danced one night all by myself, the next night with a 19 year old primadonna who insulted and threatened me, the next week closed one night, opened the next day and worked the night shift to boot and came in the next day on time.) then I will call them up but it all just terrifies me and I'm afraid that the Rockstar guys might defame me to get me fired because they were steamed that I went over their heads. I was told that they might lose their contract, but then the rockstar guys aren't above lying to their dancers to get them to comply. Oh God!! I love that place. I have regulars there. I'm the hottest thing going there. This BLOWS. Oh, has anyone here either referred to their customers as johns or heard them referred as such? Rockstar guys again. As if they don't do enough sh!t to make you feel like a low rent whore.

    I appreciate the advice and keep it coming but I might need someone to come over and make me follow it. Same with the Hustle thing, and in an environment where you're often in direct competition with your co workers, getting that kind of support is highly unlikely. Perhaps if anyone has any contacts that would aid me in going over the skinheads at rockstar and regaining my rightful place at Nicolai, they might help. God this blows. And Now I'm guessing that everyone on here hates me for being blubbering mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvytheStripper View Post
    Well I thought that "reviews" meant that other people posted reviews about you.
    It means the number of reviews you've posted in the Clubs and Reviews section.

    Quote Originally Posted by IvytheStripper View Post
    At a place like Safari or Dolphin or stars or whatever have you I would be ugly based upon my real nails and my unwillingness to have fake boobs.
    So not true, as several of us on here can attest.

    Quote Originally Posted by IvytheStripper View Post
    I guess the hustle thing, and more power to you if you're comfortable with it but when I hear hustle, I take it to mean lying to get money out of people
    That is not the definition we're working with unless you think all of those threads in the Hustle Hut section are about lying. In the sense that 99.9% of us here use the word, hustle means to work hard to sell table/lap/couch dances and VIPs using our sales skills and personal attributes. Lying to customers is called ripping off or scamming.

    Suck it up -- call Nicolai! There are 20 other places in town where you can dance without having to worry about Rockstar, too. And who cares if you have your period; we all work on it all the damn time.

    /tough love

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    I know! I know! Working with it is one thing but having to audition with it, which makes me nervous anyway...

    The Hustle/Sales thing...I would probably have the same feeling about trying to sell cars or anything else. I feel extremely uncomfy with people trying to sell me; on religion, goods, self help classes(...that was just tonight). Anything beyond girlscout cookies gets my blood up so I think I have a very real internal block for that sort of thing. I've tried and it just feels like a cheap suit. I'm not against doing table dances or that sort of thing, but trying to convince someone to get one, It's hard to describe the feeling. I have a rather bizzare sort of shyness. I can get naked with no problems, and I can even talk to customers but asking for anything more than a cigarette terrifies me.
    That being said, I will look at the sales forum. The whole concept never appealed to me and so I never really looked at it. Maybe I can pick up some tips which I can execute relatively painlessly.

    The "ugly" thing at the hustle places isn't the real main reason. It's the environment which felt ugly to me. I worked at Safari for one of the longest months of my life and it BLEW. I guess at a place like that my inherent and apparently unshakable naiivete was all the more obvious and it got played on. I don't think that I'm tough enough for it and not sure that I want to be. Does that make sense. I mean is there any room for a girl like me in a place like that. The other girls seemed to be able to put on a game face, which despite my best efforts just never worked. I mean I feel like I'm swimming upstream already trying to live down a preconcieved notion that I'm this callous money hungry shrew who's only motivation is to get money out of a fella and every word out of my mouth is to that end. I don't think that mind you. I just sort of feel it from customers and no more potently then when I was at safari.

    And before you say it THIS IS me with more confidence and a thicker skin. Eight months of stripping has had more success than the cumulative effect of 20+ yrs of therapy.

    Yeah I need to find another line of work but until then...
    I think that I can get some more shifts through the RS guys just to make ends meet until I can find something better and/or they're done grounding me from Nicolai or I can successfully go over their heads. I'm Going to put some more calls in; put in a schedule at Dino's/Hawthorne strip, tryout at sassy's and wherever else and I guess I will just have to suck it up. Question, how do I manage to walk upright if I have no spine!!

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    Update: Whilst making calls I managed to pin down a shift site unseen for Tommy's Three. Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about it. Kinda feel like I can't be picky at present. Did put in some calls. Left some messages and got a couple of promising leads. Going to do some research on some of these places. Thanks everyone!

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    Ivy, I used to be just as uncomfortable as you are with the whole 'hustling' thing. The first place I ever danced at was Devil's Point... I didn't start dancing just because of the money but the idea that I could just be onstage all night, dancing to the music I wanted to and not having to deal with, well, talking to these guys and getting them to give me money. (I used to only do 1-3 dances on average a night at a place like that). I also worked briefly at Lush but back then I was so uncomfortable with just going to a table, introducing myself and sitting down that I just kind of hung out in the dressing room and occasionally went outside. (I should note that I was reading SW at this point so I was kind of aware of what 'hustling' was but really just did not want to hustle, just sit in the dressing room and go onstage)

    Of course the money wasn't very good. But whatever, right? Making an average of $100-150 a night (less during the days but I didn't really mind, since I was still in school and not supporting myself entirely) was fine. But then I started working at Sassy's... and it was crazy because I was pretty much the only girl who ever aggressively asked for dances and when there are only 2-3 girls, it shows. And I was still working at DP, and many nights I worked with one girl who was an amazing hustler and a great performer. Nice, beautiful, good stage sets and she actually knew how to talk to men and to get them into the dance area! I knew that she easily, easily made 2-3 times as much as I did.

    So I realized I was worth the money. In Portland it's really easy to get caught up in the hipster cachet of dancing... it's fun to walk into a bar and have people think you're cool b/c they saw you perform at Dante's last week, or something. But there's another side to it: MAKING GOOD MONEY IN A CITY WITH HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATES. And it's hard to do just off of stage tips. So a friend and I steeled our nerves and went to the Dolphin together and got hired. And they are not as strict as you might think: outside of the couch dance area there is no dress code. You can wear gowns or bikinis as you like. And the money *potential* there on any night was easily 4 times higher than any night I worked as Sassy's or DP.

    So I finally started TRULY working on my hustle and focusing on the mindset that you're in a job and you're making money. It's *easier* to hustle at a place like the Dolphin or Exotica because people expect you to do so and they won't be annoyed or insulted if you ask for a private dance (back at the smaller clubs I definitely would get dirty looks from men sometimes for asking. wtf?) And because I spent so long at stage clubs, 95% of the time I know I'm the best stage performer at my club -- the owner has told me that frequently, asks me to feature, puts me onstage when he wants to impress customers, etc. And with the help of SW I'm making lots of money. I'm less than a year out of college and I'm a) saving more money than many of my peers make b) paying off student loans that are HIGHER than my rent c) able to buy myself nice things on a frequent basis. I *could not have that freedom* if I'd just stuck to stage all of the time. (I do know some women who can do that but they are very very savvy and know many club owners that adore them and are willing to become icons and have their stripper and personal lives side-by-side)

    Ok. that's really long. But the moral is that I used to be in a similar mindset of having an aversion to the 'hustle' b/c I perceived it as difficult, amoral, and just not as fun as avoiding eye contact and being onstage. But it's about the money honey and I just go to a few amazing house parties every month to rule the dancefloor...

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    Ok well how you do that? God, Everything just seems so horrible right now. I'm tired, hormonal and I suppose that has something to do with the fact that I just started tearing up upon hearing an ad for a rod stewart show on what would have been my favorite nephew, who died in november's 21st birthday. This is a little out there but I think I hold the fact that Safari made me come in the day he died and then told me I was too emotional for the decent shifts against the big money places. Irrational I know.

    I've decided that if I'm going to work at a money place it's going to be the dolphin or one of the more laid back class joints. Damn if I know what they might be.

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    It seems like you dont actually want anyone's advice as you post to counter it everytime. Stripping isnt for everyone, and maybe, if you dont want to hustle, it isnt the job for you. Just a little tough love, no harm meant...
    If you still want to try, try out the clubs that have been mentioned. I "took a break" from hustling awhile ago because I was overly pressured in all other areas of my life. I danced onstage and asked for dances around the tip rain when I was done. Didnt make huge amounts of money, but got the break needed from cheesy pickup lines and the like unless I was actually dancing for them and already was making money. Now I'm back to my old game and am doing better than ever.
    But judging from your posts, you need a break from all of it.

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    Anomar, fucking awesome synopsis of the Portland dancing scene. I have danced at the Dolphin, Cabaret, Sassy's, Nicolai, Safari, etc. and know exactly what you are talking about with the hipster cache, the few dancers in town who can milk the dancer persona in public as well, and the transition from working for peanuts. I actually like working at the Dolphin because I know I don't see everyone I fucking know there. Some girls like to be known as strippers, but I don't. It's solely a job for me. If my friends know, fine. Making 20 dollars an hour at a dive or a "cool" place is a lot less cool than making 100 dollars an hour at Dolphin. Bottom line at hustle clubs I feel like I spend more time actually bringing in cash and less time sitting around shooting the shit.
    I would recommend Cabaret, Ivy. They'll hire just about anyone, so there's a good mix of girls that work there. There are also some very talented hot/girls who work there on the regular--lots of girls come there when they get sick of Union Jack's. So anyway, try it out. And don't let anyone fucking boss you around. Seriously, you could make way more at Cabaret than at Nicolai. I liked Nicolai too but (like anomar) I am all about the MONEY!
    (And I'm not fucking giving Patty a cut.)

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    Well don't everyone gang up on me.

    What you do when you need a break from the hustle is what I do normally. I even used the "nod" thing to get some dances last night. It worked about half the time so obviously I do listen and am open to the hustle thing. I have no problem with stripping, really; Just the usual problems anyone has with it, unsavory folks, loud and oftentimes unpleasant music.
    I'm just ticked because I really loved the divey no hustle stage tips only joint I was working at.

    I will try these other places. I'm planning on Auditioning for gogo dancing at sinferno. I'm even seriously considering trying to get my feet wet at a fancy schmancy place like the dolphin.

    I do have some things on my mind but it's not like I'm on the verge of slashing my wrists or anything. I was very comfortable at my old club and a change in environment always shakes me. I have no lack of confidence at being able to secure a club. I have yet to find one other club where I didn't feel like I stuck out like a sore thumb.
    As I said before I was turned down only once (Devil's Point) and that was because I wasn't inked up like ALL of the other chicks there.
    I guess I agree with you to a small extent. Perhaps I should wait a little while, say a week before I start my club search in earnest and in the meantime do a lot of "pamper myself stuff".


    Sassy's does auditions from open til three Tuesday thru Thursday.

    Dante's six to nine on tuesdays, I believe.

    My apologies if I seem to be lashing out or contradicting your posts. My intention is only to respond to each and with my suggestions. My somewhat fragile emotional state over the past few days has been colouring the content of my responses. Please don't doubt that I appreciate your suggestions, and don't confuse my lack of confidence with lack of gratitude. To the contrary I find it extremely gratifying that you think that I can and should up my game.

    Love all of you!

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    Well, we gave you our suggestions and I don't care if you take them or not; just trying to add any information I can. Good luck. Go get some help for that fragile emotional state of yours because stripping won't do it any good.

    All I have to say is if you think any, and I mean any single club in the entire state of Oregon is "fancy," you will faint and fall on your face if you leave this state. I mean, Stars is supposedly the top of the line here -- well, it's like a neighborhood joint would be in Texas. Hot girls, but there is no such thing as an upscale gentlemen's club in the whole entire state.

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    Hi, this seemed like the appropriate thread to post this in...
    What are some good clubs to work in in portland if you are under 21? I want to go work, but am lacking a car (I live across the river) and Jiggles can't be my only option?

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    Across the river in which direction?

    Oh, you mentioned Jiggles, are you all the way out there? You can work anywhere under 21 but of course are confined to the stage and dance areas. I couldn't help ya but maybe some of the gals here danced as minors in PDX.

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    I live in vancouver (there isn't a single strip club here, everyone just goes to portland because washington clubs are very limited, have to wear pasties, ect.), but once I get a car I can get anywhere. I heard about city limits? any one else... is there any way I can do a search...? plz help!

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    If you're talking about juice bars, I think City Limits serves alcohol now. Just look at Exotic mag or their website and see which clubs admit 18 and up customers -- those are the only ones where you can work the floor as a minor, of course. But be forewarned they're generally supposed to be a lot skankier than the other clubs (of course, skanky in Portland isn't what it is elsewhere).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    All I have to say is if you think any, and I mean any single club in the entire state of Oregon is "fancy," you will faint and fall on your face if you leave this state. I mean, Stars is supposedly the top of the line here -- well, it's like a neighborhood joint would be in Texas. Hot girls, but there is no such thing as an upscale gentlemen's club in the whole entire state.
    Haha! No kidding! I've worked at fancier places in Montana and Idaho!

    But that is part of the laid back charm of places like Oregon, you don't need to be buttoned up and perfect to have an enjoyable time here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by onna-otaku View Post
    I live in vancouver (there isn't a single strip club here, everyone just goes to portland because washington clubs are very limited, have to wear pasties, ect.), but once I get a car I can get anywhere. I heard about city limits? any one else... is there any way I can do a search...? plz help!
    You don't need a car to get to the clubs. I used to ride the bus from Vancouver to Portland all the time (I moved away back in 1997). City Limits is definitely within bus distance from Vancouver. Jiggles in Tualitin is the other juice bar in the area.

    You are permitted to dance in Portland in an alcohol bar if you are at least 18. Some places like Stars just don't hire minors because the minors are not allowed to work the floor and that club is very hustle focused.

    It would be easy enough to ride the bus to work and get a cab home. Try east side clubs like Jodi's and Exotica as they will be easier to get to from Vancouver than west side clubs like Wild Catz or Dolphin 2. Anything in downtown should be pretty easy to get to from Vancouver on the bus, too.

    Rockstar may still offer dancers rides. They used to have vans for getting the dancers to and from work safely. It was something like $12 each way to the driver. Rockstar pretty much sucks to work for, but they are good for getting started in Portland until you feel comfortable enough to branch out on your own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post

    It would be easy enough to ride the bus to work and get a cab home. Try east side clubs like Jodi's and Exotica as they will be easier to get to from Vancouver than west side clubs like Wild Catz or Dolphin 2. Anything in downtown should be pretty easy to get to from Vancouver on the bus, too.
    Actually, at least right now they have stopped letting minors work at Exotica.

    For the minor... depending on what you're looking for in a club right now you have different options. Since you're younger and can't hustle you might want to look into one of the rockstar clubs, as Paris says, since they'll put you in pretty small clubs where you get to go on a few times an hour. I have a friend who started dancing while she was a minor at the Dream On Saloon and liked it... she said the bouncers treated the minors nicely and it was decent money for stage-oriented. I'd also look into Cabaret downtown, which hires minors (afaik) and is accessible by c-tran (c-train?) and seems more hustle oriented than those smaller clubs I just mentioned.

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    I'm looking into a lot of those.... how do you find a rockstar club?

    Gah one year, and I'm 21! (well, and four months)
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    Just call their number, which is findable in the exotic magazine. You might also have luck googling 'rockstar promotions' in portland. Explain you want to work tyhrough them...

    ALSO, when I worked for them I called and said specifically which club I wanted to work at, which was great until they started making me work at a couple more places. Bla!

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    They can't "make" you do anything you don't want to do. From my experience, that is. Just tell them where you want to work. They will call you a million times (probably once a day) asking you to cover shifts at less-than-bankable clubs. Just refuse.

    Anyway, City Limits was bought by the guys (George and his son David) who run Cabaret, and is now Cabaret II. It's an over-21 bar.

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    Yeah, here is how my 'fuck rockstar' thing went... so, for about 2-3 months I was doing fine working at sassy's, just the one shift a week i wanted except i covered a couple others there once or twice. they would call me about 1-2 more times a week about covering shifts at other clubs. i was in school at the time and said no, always. eventually, mason called and said that steve (the owner I believe, or something like that) wanted to see me work at club 205. just one shift then back to sassy's. it was LAME! 'contest night'... 2 girls on each stage 3 stages! i met him very briefly. next week i went in to my usual shift at sassy's. i arrived there fully dressed at 9:45. (shift starts at 10). when i got there the bouncer said that steve wanted to talk to me on the phone. he said that i should have been there at 9:30 and that he had already called another girl to take my place! (they only have 3-4 girls MAX there) i never got to work there again...

    luckily i started working at the dolphin i with my friend a few weeks later and moved out of that type of club into a larger, more hustle based club with more relaxed scheduling. i find that much, much better. when i used to work at devil's point i had to work my week around the uneven, ever changing 3 girl schedule that shon would arrange. bleah!

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