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    Does anyone know about Diva International in San Juan, Puerto Rico?? I have been thinking about going there but wanted more info, do they have a base pay? What is the average $$$/week? How are they on touching? Are there any extras going on??


    Sorry for all of the questions the club review section doesn't have updated info on this club...Thanx

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    well dont feel bad about asking, this is the club section!! sorry i have no info for you though.

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    Bridgette worked there for about a year. You could PM her for more info.

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    Thanks Tina..will do!! I must say, I'm surprised that you don't know...I've read most of the forums and you seem like the SC Guru!! Well, I guess you're still living up to that because you're referring me to bridgette...Thanks

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    Well, my first-hand info is a little old now. I lived and worked in PR from July 2002 to January 2004. However I still know people, so I have a little current info. The bottom line is, it USED TO be a good place to work and make lots of money with fairly low contact. Now, not so much.

    The contact MAY still be lower than most other clubs in PR, but I've heard some things - girls being allowed to blatantly flash pussy on stage (it's a topless club) AND the club no longer has a valid business license, for example, that tell me girls are getting away with a whole lot more than they used to. Also I know for a fact that they have been desperate enough for girls that they were literally begging my friend to come down and for her to bring me too. When a club has to BEG for dancers to come work, there's something wrong - it is definitely NOT a good thing. NO, you won't make a fortune because of no/low competition - actually you'll probably make fuckall because there are few customers spending money.

    The economic situation in PR has been, basically, shit ever since they shut down the military base in January 2004. Notice that's the same month I left the island? There's a reason. I KNEW it would go to hell in a handbasket, and basically, it has. My friend who is from there and lives there still was telling me that for a while the government was so broke that EVERYTHING literally shut down for 2 weeks at one point, because they couldn't pay the employees' salaries - that was just last year. No school, no gov't offices, no cops, no NOTHING, for 2 weeks. Crime has gone up dramatically. People are getting robbed and shot in neighborhoods where that kind of thing "doesn't happen". Some of my native friends are scared. All of my American friends who were living down there, left.

    So basically, I would not recommend going. The Divas heyday was over a long time ago. The HBO series is old. It does NOT represent what the place is actually like at all.

    The shifts are looooooonnng and sometimes very boring. And NO you cannot leave early or show up late if you want to come back to work there again. The one asshole manager who used to make the dancers' lives miserable is no longer there so working conditions MIGHT be more tolerable now, so if you're going down there anyway for vacation and just want to earn a few bucks while you're there, yeah it's probably worth a shot. But if you're wanting to go down there with the purpose of making money, don't bother.


    I'm curious where you heard about the place and what made you think it might be a good place to work?

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    I second most of B's comments. Used to go every several months or so and noticed the downturn. I haven't seen any pussy flashing onstage but, yes, I must admit I've been able to get touchy-feely upstairs. It also resembles a funeral home in terms of its ambiance. I recently wrote about a club in Ponce (southern PR) which recently moved to its new place. It is much, much more upscale than Divas but needs dancers too. It's low-contact, no touchy-feely. Wish I had a phone number to send you but I'm sure you can find out somehow



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    ^^That's another thing about Divas. The building has been let go in a bad way. When it rains they have to put trash cans all around to catch the water. It looks pretty bad when customers walk in the front door and have to avoid 3-4 trash cans placed in the middle of the hall to catch rain before they've even gotten into the club area. Bathrooms suck. Stairs suck. Chairs suck. Nothing gets maintenance.

    One night I had just taken a guy to VIP and literally within 5 minutes a bunch of water just poured in on us from the roof. It felt like someone had dumped a bucket of water on us. It had stopped raining by then, but there was water standing on the roof and it suddenly sprung a large leak Fortunately the guy was a local and had the typical laid-back attitude so he didn't get pissed off, but alot of customers would've been upset about that.


    To answer questions about customers there: When I was there they were mixed. Mostly tourists and more well-to-do locals. The locals spent alot of money on girls they liked - they tended to go for American girls or foreigners. Tourists were mostly American but there were a fair amount of South Americans, Caribbeans and Europeans as well. Tourists mostly spent money on local girls. I had alot of fun there and so did my friends, but the club is mostly a ghost town these days, from what I hear.



    Carlos, is the club in Ponce you're talking about Dancers? How would you say business is? Also, what about that new place Lips that opened a year or so ago? Dude. Despite all the shit that's gone on in PR the last couple years I still miss the place something fierce and almost wanna go back. If I could make money at all, I'd be seriously tempted
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    I worked there about 2 yrs ago. I went to PR to work for two weeks. I worked about 3 or 4 days. Didn't make all that much. It was mostly hustling champagne to get upstairs. The rest of my time there was spent on the beach hanging out w/ my friend. So, it's not worth going there for the pupose of making $ But, it's a nice vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Carlos, is the club in Ponce you're talking about Dancers? How would you say business is? Also, what about that new place Lips that opened a year or so ago? Dude. Despite all the shit that's gone on in PR the last couple years I still miss the place something fierce and almost wanna go back. If I could make money at all, I'd be seriously tempted
    Yes, it's Dancers. It seems to me that business is not like at the old place, maybe because guys are still intimidated by the new facilities, which like I said its by far the classiest, most upscale of all clubs I've been to. I guess it will take some time before they get accustomed to the new surroundings I haven't been to Lips but I've read that it's very classy with a lot of beautiful dancers and it's low-contact. Business must be good because it's right smack in Hato Rey.



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    Hmm. I've been talking to one of my good friends who I worked with down there, and we've both been wanting to go back for at least a visit for a while now. Something tells me that might be sooner than later

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    To Answer Bridgette: A couple of my friends were talking about going there for vacation & make a little money while relaxing of course. One of my friends is going to dance at Divas but, I'm not one to just go with the flow, so I figured what better place to find out the truth besides SW. I've talked to one of the managers, but I can't trust what they say because you know their main goal is to get you out there!!

    ...So you guys said Lips or Dancers, I want to still travel there with them so I'm open for suggestions.....

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    Well if you're going to be in San Juan and staying in Condado you might as well work at Divas if you're going to work somewhere. The club is walking distance from anywhere in Condado (main San Juan tourist area) so it'll be most convenient. When I lived there I walked to and from work - no matter the time of day. I wouldn't recommend that now, after what I've heard about the crime, so get a taxi or AT LEAST walk in groups. Also Divas has (had anyway) a 3 BR apt just a block or so from the club, where they let girls stay for $25/night. If you're planning to work a few nights during the week that might be a decent option for cheap accommodations. Both the apt and the club are on the same side of the main road in Condado, and right across the road from the beach. I never stayed there so I couldn't tell you what it's like - knew a few girls who stayed there for MONTHS so it couldn't have been too horrible.

    Ponce is on the other side of the island from San Juan so unless you're going to stay in that area, you won't want to trek all that way to work at Dancers.

    Hato Rey is more the downtown San Juan area (if I remember correctly) so if you work at Lips you'll have to get a taxi to work - doubt you'll be staying in a hotel in that area. But if business is that much better it may be worth it.

    Do you know where you'll be staying? God, you're making me want to go BAD!!! I swear I had more fun there, all the time, than anywhere I've ever lived (and that's alot of places!)


    Which manager have you spoken with? I can give you more heads up about them....

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    I would be staying in their dancing housing... atleast until I learn the place. The manager I spoke to was Kelly, she said the housing was a block away & would be free because I told her that I would be coming out there for a month or so..

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    Ok, when I worked there Kelly was a dancer. She was always cool and very straight up. She's also the only American I knew down there who's STILL there, btw. However since she's managing now you should take what she says about the money potential with a grain of salt. For example, I never heard of them offering free housing to the dancers when I was there - an indication that they NEED girls. The dancer housing is the 3BR apt I mentioned earlier and it IS very close to the club. FYI, one of the owners comes down every few weeks and stays in that apt as well, so he may or may not be there for part of the time when you're there.

    From what I know, Kelly is more a manager of the girls/office and Cristian(guy) is acting as club manager. This was last word I had anyway. Cristian was always fairly laid back (bit of a player tho so watch him ) - he was asst manager when I was there. The former manager is gone now, thankfully for the girls. Kelly is cool.

    Kelly used to make a ton of money there as a dancer, but she was one HELL of a hustler!! Also there was simply more money in the place in general. I think I caught it just at the end of its heyday Keep this in mind when listening to stories of how much girls make there, and when considering how much you might make there now.

    Still, if there's any business at all in the place, I don't see any reason you couldn't make a couple hundred a night, with some occasional great nights thrown in, depending on how much you work and WHEN. Winter/spring is much easier to make money - summer/fall can be tough.

    The weird thing about that place is you might make fuckall all night long and then some dude may show up at 3am and take you to the champagne room for the next 2-3 hours. If you have a custy in there buying the more expensive champagnes and paying you, they'll let you stay as long as he keeps paying, even after the club is closed. It happened regularly when I was there - they'd keep one bouncer, waitress and manager and lock the doors, and if you had a guy paying to stay until noon the next day, you could stay as long as you wanted to keep making money.

    Are you really going for a month? Careful, that's what I did and when I was supposed to fly back....I just didn't. You might like it down there so much you may not want to leave. Happened to me and alot of other people Hell, I move around like a gypsy because I get bored and need change, and PR is the only place I've lived where I could honestly say I might've stayed forever if certain other circumstances had been different.

    Anyway, Divas could work fine for you if you're going to be staying a couple weeks and just want to make some spending cash while there. Just don't count on bringing money home If you're going to be there a while and want to explore the island, I'd recommend checking out Dancers in Ponce too, and from everything I've heard about Lips, it's worth checking out as well.

    Good luck. Knowing me, you may just see me there too. LOL!!

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    Thanks Bridgette! Yeah Kelly was very straight up about the girls and what to expect. Of course I don't trust her as far as my potential earning, I mean she is trying to get me out there. I totally agree with you on staying out there longer, I had that close call in Guam, but , I'll make sure that I leave some unfinished business in DC so I'll feel obligated to return sooner rather than later. Hopefully I will see you out there!! I'm still gonna check out Dancers & Lips before I go though.


    Here is Divas MYSPACE page www.myspace.com/divasinternational
    or try... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=74605574


    Let me know if you think April 30- May 30 is a good time financially!!!

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    That time of year will be iffy for money; it's on the edge of spring/summer so there won't be as many travellers but it will be better than summer and early fall.

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    That Divas Myspace page is somewhat misleading, since it also promotes two other clubs as well, same owners I guess.



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    The two Pennsylvania clubs listed on their page are owned by same company.


    I HATE that page!! Waaaay too much stuff, takes forever to load and it's just.....annoying. Like most myspace pages

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    I know!! But did you check out the Dancers/Agency Deals Blog... It talks about what they say they offer, just wanted you to check out, because I know you'd know if they were being straight up!!!

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    I saw the agency deal blog. Are you going through an agent? What's funny is at one time when I was there they were really in need of a few girls, so I suggested they try using an agent to recruit some new chics. They wouldn't even consider it. I'll bet anything that Kelly is the one who finally talked them into doing it now - I swear that girl could sell ice to an eskimo

    I notice it said airfare would be reimbursed for girls who stay 1 month, meet earnings minimums AND follow all rules, etc. That leaves alot of room for them to come up with a reason you didn't "earn" the airfare reimbursement. I'm not saying they would cheat, but I'm saying you should not count on the airfare deal. They suddenly stopped giving girls their fee reimbursements at one of their PA clubs, with no explanation. So if you are looking at that as a way to make up part of your trip, you should ask Kelly up front for SPECIFIC details on what exactly the earnings minimums are and the "follow the rules" requirement.

    There are soooooooo many rules there and it's hard to remember them all sometimes, AND they change regularly. I remember a few times where one person would cause a problem or Wally would just decide he didn't like something, and suddenly there'd be a new rule to prevent it (and the rule would be against something that we ALL normally did with no problem, but one girl took it too far or did something stupid, plus the rules were retardedly enforced), so we girls were often getting "talked to" for doing something we didn't even know wasn't allowed anymore. However I think part of the problem there was caused by the one asshole manager who is gone now, so things may be better under Cristian.

    ALSO I saw that my FAVORITE floorman is now asst manager. That's a good sign - he's a good guy.

    One example of a stupidass rule is that customers are not allowed to get funny money over the bar to tip you. The money HAS TO be used for dances or champagne room. And there is no ATM machine in the club. Also customers are NOT ALLOWED to tip you on credit card for anything, ever - not even in VIP. Any credit card tips go to the waitress or bartender. They do this to MAKE girls sell expensive champagne bottles if you want to get more money for VIP than the cheapass $100 cut for a half hour. The CR pricing setup is retarded too. In order for the girls to get a pissy $30 more for the half hour, you have to make the guy spend almost DOUBLE the regular VIP price to buy champagne. And guess who gets commission on the champagne that YOU sell? The waitress!

    But the 'up to $350' for half hour thing is new. They used to let us name our price for the half hour if we got the guy to buy the most expensive champagne ($600 bottle). And yes, it happened with some regularity.

    Now, with all the retarded rules, amazingly many guys put up with it (but many of them left because they got sick of all the shit that was going on - when the club makes the girls miserable they are in turn making the customers miserable too). Still, we used to manage to make quite a bit of money there, but you have to figure out the system and how to work it. Business went down alot though, so I could not tell you it will be that good anymore.

    Anyway, you might find it hard to keep up with all the rules and that might preclude you from getting the airfare reimbursement.

    "Champagne Courts: Entertainer earns $120-$350 per 1/2 hour depending on which bottle she sells."
    They take 10% of your funny money - most CRs are on credit card so you'll actually get $108 for the half hour. Also, they don't start the time on CRs until the cc has been processed, signed and drinks are on the table - that ALWAYS takes 10-20 minutes so you'll be stuck there entertaining the guy for approximately 45 minutes but getting paid for only a half hour. If the guy renews it's the same thing again - that can get REALLY frustrating because you wind up spending alot of free time in there and TIME IS MONEY. There were MANY nights we ALL could've made soooooo much more money but we were forced to waste too much friggin time in CR You would think the club would want to change that, because they make money off everything the girls make. But no

    "Private Dances - $30 per song, entertainer keeps $20."
    They make the guys pay for dances over the bar and give you tickets for each dance you sell. You BETTER keep up with those tickets to cash them in at the end of the night or you won't get your money. Fortunately they are long strips of paper that you can fold into your money and strap on your garter so they aren't too hard to keep up with.

    "Very safe location. (Tourist Area)" - Yeah, not as safe as it used to be. Still probably safer than certain other parts of the city, but I'm not so sure I'd walk home alone after work anymore, like I used to.

    They often don't have the cash to pay girls for CC money at the end of the night so you have to wait til next day. Better make sure you have all your money before you leave town or you won't get it!

    Anyway, if there's any business in there, and if you figure out how to work their system you CAN make some really good money. We used to. I just don't think there's that much business anymore so I wouldn't count on making all that much. Enough to pay your expenses, sure. But that's all I'd expect.

    FYI they know about this website so it's highly possible they're reading this thread. I don't care; I'm not saying anything I wouldn't say to their faces and there's a good possibility I'll have that chance

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    Thanks Bridgette you've been really helpful! I think I'm gonna go ahead with Divas, experience it & then if I like it travel there often, & if not I'll just write it off as an experience. I'm not going through an agency & I'm not too worried about airfare reimbursement because for a round trip flight is only $259 from where I am.

    I really like Kelly she seemed pretty cool too!
    & I figured they probably knew about this site but, I don't think they shoould be offended by anything you've said, I mean if they have nothing to hide. Thanks for the heads up about the CR's....gotta figure out a way not to waste so much time!
    Hopefully you come out there while I'm there! So you can show me the best places to eat, party, shop, etc...

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    Dooood! You're seriously making me want to go BAD

    A tip about CRs: If you can sell the guy on an hour instead of half hour that helps alot. The club prefers you sell it by the half hour but if you get the GUY to request an hour they'll do it. Or at least they used to. It's just double the price. That way if you get a spender who likes to stay for a long time, you reduce the amount of time wasted.

    Also, you can often make more money by doing dances instead of CRs. Because in the time you'd spend doing a CR you can easily do enough dances to come out ahead. Think about it: $100 per half hour (which really is about 45 minutes) or say, 6 dances. The guy spends less money and you make more Try selling blocks of dances, depending on the guy. The real beauty of doing this is you don't have to wait so long to get started - they'll run the charge over the bar for the dances and then you do song by song so you spend less time for more money, then get back to making MORE money faster.

    Another tip: If you get a guy buying a bunch of champagne - ie, more than one or two sessions/bottles, work with the waitress to leave a bottle or two unopened. You can sell it back to the club for extra money as your "tip". Or you can keep one for yourself

    I have heard alot of things have changed since I was there so my party info is probably out of date. But I do still have some friends there so it wouldn't take me long to get back into the swing of things Although, it's EASY to find a party there. Unless you're hiding under a rock you'll have MORE than enough opportunities for that!

    I definitely recommend exploring some of the island other than San Juan. San Juan is fun but the rest of the island is f'in gorgeous! Oh, and go to Fajardo and take the ferry to Culebra. Travel Channel rated one of the top 5 beaches in the world is there (Flamingo) - sand like powdered sugar and clear blue water with 100 foot visibility Sit on the beach at night and count the shooting stars - you'll be amazed at how many you can see out there without all the citylights and pollution. Best to take some friends to hang with cuz it's quiiiiiiieeett on Culebra. Also Rincon is nice, and the caves at Camuy, among many other things. You can drive around the whole island in one day! Rent a car and do it for the hell of it!
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    Yeah, I always feel like I come out better selling PD'S but I still sell champagne rooms just to keep the Quota up, you know clubs watch these things! Thanks for the info on the Champagne! I've never heard of that before, that's awesome!

    As far as partying, I don't leave until April 30th , but do expect a thread then saying: " Bridgette I need to party....Heeelppppp!!! "

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    Yeah, like I said earlier, there's alot of retarded rules but there are ways to work it to your favor

    The club isn't going to bitch if you mostly sell dances - they get a cut of them too so they are happy if you sell alot of them. Some nights I wouldn't sell any CRs but 20+ dances and the club was happy.

    One more tip: Stage is kind of a big thing there. It is the total focus in the main room. Guys sit around the stage, and you need to go to them to get tips. Often they will sit there at stage and not offer a tip, but if you approach them and do a little dance in front of them they'll tip. In other places it's more customary for the customers to offer tips, but at this club it's the other way around. You have to go get it. I used to spend most of my time in two songs going round and round collecting tips - if it's a decent night you can easily pull an extra 1-200 a night just in stage tips.


    Oh yeah. This is the only club I've ever heard of where the dancers still have to do their stage set even when in CR. They stop counting time while you go dance, then resume when you get back. Only exception is when the guy buys a bottle of Dom or above, and even then if there aren't enough girls you'll still have to do stage. So you have to explain to the guy that he won't lose time and he can come down and watch you, blah blah.

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    I definitely recommend exploring some of the island other than San Juan. San Juan is fun but the rest of the island is f'in gorgeous! Oh, and go to Fajardo and take the ferry to Culebra. Travel Channel rated one of the top 5 beaches in the world is there (Flamingo) - sand like powdered sugar and clear blue water with 100 foot visibility Sit on the beach at night and count the shooting stars - you'll be amazed at how many you can see out there without all the citylights and pollution. Best to take some friends to hang with cuz it's quiiiiiiieeett on Culebra. Also Rincon is nice, and the caves at Camuy, among many other things. You can drive around the whole island in one day! Rent a car and do it for the hell of it!
    Whichever of you gets to the Conquistador Resort in Fajardo first, could you please see if Roberto still manages the bar? He's an old friend. Bridgette would love him if she hasn't met him already.

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