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    WARNING: this is pretty long, but i will try to condense it as much as possible. The main stuff is after the history part.

    A lil history: I quit my last club, not too long ago, because they were only allowing air dances to happen, which I could not make money doing, since all of my regulars were used to my full contact lapdances. I figured that it was okay, because I like moving around to different clubs. Unfortunately, I made a ton of money (to me, at least) there when they did lapdances. I only work Thursdays and Fridays; Thurs, I could make around $500, and Fridays I would make between $600 and $900. However, the liquor board busted them, and I was getting burnt out from that place, anyhow. Even if they DO allow normal laps now, I can't go back b/c the mngr's upset with me for quitting, and even if he did allow me back, i wouldn't be able to work the specific schedule that i need, in order to fit-in with my fulltime school and internship.

    I then tried another club and made $350 that night. I was lucky that a regular from an old club came in. However, that club makes you payout alot, considering that dances aren't guaranteed. It's great if you make a great deal of dances, but if you don't you're basically screwed. So, combining knowing that fact, knowing that payout is $120 plus 4 drinks on weekends, and feeling depressed in the environment, I informed that club that I was not going to return, but thank you for letting me work there.

    Jump to present: I now work at a new club with a similar layout (crawling bar for ones and lapdances), but much smaller than the one in which i previously banked. However, we only get $20 for each lapdance, no matter how many we do, and I've made about $50, only, in ones for crawling the bar. However, I've only worked Thurs, so that may be why.

    Tonight will be my 3rd night, so I figure if tonight doesn't go well, I will have to try somewhere else. Not only don't i make good money, but I feel as though the staff is trying to hustle me...and I'm the one who's supposed to be the hustler! Last Thurs, I only made $250 (with the help of one guy who tipped $60 for champ room), and this past Thurs I only made $150!!! I realized that my income was going to decrease, but this is depressing. Also, it's not like the other girls are doing well, either. Some of them said that they didn't even make $100 last night. I know they weren't saying that to make me feel better, as they were ranting in the dressing room, and not speaking directly to me. I guess it's okay for them to not make as much, because they work other days of the week, but I can't really fit that into my schedule, at this point

    Also, is it just me, do all clubs work like this, or am I overreacting?

    1. One of the guys who claims that he owns the club (which I know he doesn't because I know the owner, and he's only the promotions guy), says that he needs me to promote when I come in tonight, and would it be okay for him to take me out of the club for 2 hours to Ruth Chris Steak House or somewhere else expensive. I don't like doing stuff like that anyhow, but I asked him how much I would get paid. He said that I wouldn't have to pay shift pay. Shift pay is $35!!!!!!!! For 2 hours???? Do I look that stupid??? Maybe that is a good deal, and I'm being silly????? He then said that I'd be helping with the club...right...Even if i didnt make any laps for those 2 hours, I'd still make $35 on the bar, and at least have the CHANCE to make laps. Plus I feel weird around that guy.

    2. There's a guy that they hire to hustle champagne rooms on slow nights. We get 1/2 of the champ room (which I already think sucks, but I know it's common everywhere around here), and then we have to give him 10% of that 1/2. I had never done chmpgn rms before, and really didn't want to do them, but he told me I had one, and I figured that I shouldn't turn it down, because it would cost the club $$$. I took it, and he tried to claim that I had 2 champagne rooms, instead, and get more of a tip. He knew damn well I only had 1, because he has to report it to the mngr, who then gives back $$ to the girls at the end of the night.

    3. I'm told to go to the champagne room FOR FREE. supposedly, the guys will pay for me and 2 other girls to dance on a table. They supposedly will tip 20s and whatnot. 1 girl's dancing on the table, and there's no room for me, unless I'm on top of her. I feel stupid just sitting there, while the guy who told me to go to the room is getting paid for selling a room, but I'm getting no $$$. I exscused myself because I told someone "I'd be back," and later looked in to see the girls dancing with each other. They WERE getting tipped, but from what I saw, at the end of the night, it was only a couple of 1s. Yes, I do not think I make much there, but I guess I'd rather not make as much than feel like I'm being played, basically, since they sold a champagne room but I didn't make anything off of it directly. Also, those girls that were dancing on each other had known each other for awhile. It's my second night, and I don't think that Id feel comfortable, nor do I think that they would appreciate, if i danced on them like that.

    4. Also, I was told that I'm not allowed to take my purse around the bar when I collect my tips. Maybe I am wrong, and it looks tacky. It's small, and I have it only shoulder all of the time. I carry it around because I don't like walking up the stairs which are steep and narrow, each time that I finish a set. That gives me less time on my feet, making them hurt less, and more time on the floor. The mngr said not to do it, and I said that I was worried about leaving it while I crawl, because someone might see it. Him, and another dancer, told me that I COULD TRUST EVERYONE IN THERE. WTF?!?!?!? It's a strip club...I have $$$ in my purse...NO NO NO!!! I've heard so many girls say in various clubs "I love this club, I can leave my money out and nobody takes it." I come in a week later, and they're bitching about how someone stole their money...

    5. Finally, the last thing that se tme off, that prolly wouldn't have, had the others not happened....the bouncer asks me why I passed up going to get a tip from a guy. I might be imagining things, but it sounded like he was almost accusatory. I should've told him it was none of his damn business, but instead, i told him the truth, that the guy wasn't tipping. Why does he have to know?

    Anyways, yeah..

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    Default Re: Rant/advice/is this normal?

    Ok, so you told us your history and your situation, what is it that you're wanting, are you just wanting to vent or are you looking for some advice? I personally think that you might be able to make more money if you stayed at a club longer than a couple of days. It's a little while (I think) to settle in and get used to the place and hustle and don't give up on a place if you've worked somewhere for 2-3 days and not made money. Some days you'll do great and other days you won't. I can say though that I wouldn't work in a club that tried to get me to do a CR for free! This current club might not be for you if they're expecting you to do a CR for free but at least try to stay at a club a little bit before you assume you're not going to make money there, give it a little time.

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    I will answer your numbered issues in order, but first I want to say you are NOT wrong. This place sounds fucked up and I would not work there.

    1. You are right on about this one. Go out for two hours for $17.50 an hour to "help" the club? I hate it when they pull this line. You don't help out a strip club. This is insane.

    2. I won't work with flagrantly dishonest people if I can help it. This sort of situation will continue to happen.

    3. Now, I don't think you need anyone to tell you that this is some serious bullshit. 'Nuff said.

    4. HAHAHhahahahAHhahaha. Yeah, you can trust them. the no purse thhing sounds like some controlling bullshit. You will have a bit of this anywhere, but combined with all the rest, I'm seeing a really bad pattern.

    5. Again with the controlling--trying to tell you what to do, how to work, how to make your money. This is not good.

    If you could go somewhere else, I'd do it. This place sounds like bad news.

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    1. Promotions. I know this may sound absurd to some, but you have to look at the big picture. Don't think about how much money you will make tonight, but how much you can make in the upcoming month. If your aren't making much money at the club currently, and spend a night out promoting the club (and thus yourself), isn't it worth it when you come back to work and make more money? I know, most girls say, that's what the club is supposed to do. The club does to a point, they eat the cost when they allow free or discounted entry at the door. (Usually promotions involves handing out cards). I used to send dancers to see a local morning radio DJ. On the air, there were be flirting, talking, marketing the club & themselves. What was the end result? Did I pay the girls? Nope. People listening to the show would come to the club and want to see the girls. Did the girls make more money at the club? Yep.

    On a similar note, this is why you can help other dancers. I know this may not make you any money directly, but again, look at the big picture for helping the team. For example, if there is a girl on stage dancing and not getting tipped. Take the guy you are sitting with and bring him to the stage to tip the girl. (Or get a dollar from the guy and tip the girl.) So hopefully, when you are on stage, another girl will do the same for you.

    2. Tipping a floorman who helps you make money is pretty standard. If the guy is ripping you off, that's pretty f'd up.

    3. I've worked at some clubs where a guy pays for a VIP/champagne room, and that just pays for the room not the entertainment. At some clubs, he pays for the room and the time spent with a girl (at those clubs, the house usually takes a lesser percentage). If you felt you would make more money out of the VIP, you did right by leaving.

    4. Purses, this is a common issue at a clubs. The reason for the rule is so it is not a judgment call. No gray area, they make it a black and white issue. Your purse may be small, but another girls may be a bit bigger, where does management draw the line? I had one girl who wanted to carry a huge purse with her that had most of her dancer stuff in it because she didn't want to leave it in the dressing room. No purse, period. May I suggest rubber-banding your money around your garter or getting one of those extra small wrist baggies (basically the size of a cigarette case).

    5. Well, you are fairly new at the club. The bouncer doesn't know you. He may have come off wrong, but bottom line, he was trying to increase the amount of money you leave with. I've had girls come up to me at the end of their shift and state they couldn't pay me (this has been happening quite frequently lately). SO why does he want to know, he probably wants to make sure he gets tipped out. Every dollar counts.


    But I do agree with leogirl, its too soon to judge a club after working there so little. Give it some time.


    ~Rich

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    hmm.. can i ask what club? from that post, i can pretty much guarantee you're at my club, unless there's another one out there exactly like mine. don't leave, i left once and i came back

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    and maybe i can clear some things up for you.. (assuming i'm right and you are at my club)

    when you go into the "champagne room" on weekends for "free," that isnt a champagne room. that's just vip and bottle service (alcohol bottles). to buy a girl, the guy has to buy champagne. that rooms you can just go in and out as you please, it's not like you're staying for the time you would if you were doing champagne. and if you dont want to go in, just tell him. i've made bank off of doing that, or i havent. if the guys arent tipping, i leave.

    about your purse.. we *all* leave our purses on the stage when we're walking the bar. i honestly never have had anything taken from me, but if you're worried, keep your money all on your garter when you're dancing/walking the bar. that's what i most of the time.

    certain bouncers there are jerks. the reason they ask, though, is because they want to know if a guy isnt tipping.

    oh, and promoting is fun! i've hung out with him socially before i even worked here and he isnt a bad guy. i've never done promotions here because of my school schedule, but i used to at scores and i always volunteered. if it's not for you, though, just tell him you can't. he can't make you.

    i hope you stick it out! dont give up after only your 3rd night!

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