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    BEST fucking movie i seen in years! Saw the 10:00 show and goddamn but i want there to be a 3:00am show! I will see this hard ass flick again! Cheeerist! Anyone else check it out?

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    Just saw it tonight. It was a great movie, even if it was more comic book than history.

    What was interesting was the way the battle scenes were more Homeric-style oristeas, than a real depiction of the true Spartan fighting technique, except a few intermittent scenes where the tight cohesion was portrayed. The one pushing match in the beginning was probably the most accurate of all.

    There were parts of the movie that had me rolling my eyes and wishing they would get on with it, like for instance the death scene of Leonidas (but I have always hated overdone death scenes--you know its never really like that).

    The visual effects were superb, and the guys showing off out in front of the lines like never would have happened looked really cool regardless. I loved the lighting and the color effects.

    Not history, no--and a bit overdone at times--but a great movie, hell yes.
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    I've read the graphic novel, and I got a free ticket from Best Buy last week, so I will be seeing it. All the reviews I have read say "blood, blood, homoerotic, blood blood blood".
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    Actually--not that I need to see it, mind you--there would have been a great deal more blood than they showed in the movie, just like Braveheart, as gory as it seemed.

    Way, way more blood, especially when the limbs and heads got chopped off. Blood would spray in enormous jets everywhere at high velocity, drenching everyone near it.
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    Testosterone Fest!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I am going to see this tonight!
    The commercials look amazing.
    Lots of blood and guts. I hope the story is good. The true story about Thermopile is amazing.
    Will give my Siskel and Ebert tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Just saw it tonight. It was a great movie, even if it was more comic book than history.
    My classics professor has been cursing this movie for weeks. Ranting and raving about how they hire professionals to give advice to help accuracy and then do the exact opposite. It's quite hilarious to see this 70 year old man saying "goddamn Hollywood moneyfuckers" three days a week.

    I'll probably wait a while to see it. I'm on classics overload at the moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post

    What was interesting was the way the battle scenes were more Homeric-style oristeas, than a real depiction of the true Spartan fighting technique, except a few intermittent scenes where the tight cohesion was portrayed. The one pushing match in the beginning was probably the most accurate of all.
    Arg! I'm a history brat and I hate when they get things horribly wrong. I'm still going to see it, not as a historical movie, but as an nteresting movie. We'll see if I can pevent myself from turning to the boy and hissing "that's not historically accurate, goddammit!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rozz View Post
    Arg! I'm a history brat and I hate when they get things horribly wrong. I'm still going to see it, not as a historical movie, but as an nteresting movie. We'll see if I can pevent myself from turning to the boy and hissing "that's not historically accurate, goddammit!"
    Here's a little Mantra to help.

    It's a movie, based on a graphic novel, vased on a movie, based on a novel, based on a book, based on a historical account written years after the battle, about a battle that no one from the authors country survived. Does that help?

    I want to to see this toooo. Just looks like an exciting testosterone fest. Ladies you can't tell me your going to sit out all those hot ripped abs and brawny arms because of a little swordplay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Ladies you can't tell me your going to sit out all those hot ripped abs and brawny arms because of a little swordplay?
    Does it make me weird that I wan to see this because it's a testosterone fest? (She typed as she watched Conan the Barbarian)

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    I'm watching this tonight! I keep hearing how good this movie is. Plus the visuals look cool.

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    it was amazing. i could rant and rave about all the various parts, but it made me happy.

    i absolutely adore appropriate violence. movies like this one, apocalypto.... they make me giddy.

    .....not one. not two. but THREE decapitations.

    AND BOOBIES!!!

    haha yes i still get excited about naked ladies, imagine that.

    also very funny at parts, the spartans are stabbing to death the remaining bits of their enemies on the ground that are still barely writhing for life and they say something like "there's no reason we shouldn't be civil about this!! *stab stab*"

    in my opinion the best treat of the movie was the portrayal of the various freaks, deforminities and physical oddities. there's inbred priests with weird skin ailments, similar looking warriors (once their masks are cut off), king xeres himself (CHECK OUT HIS EYEBROWS HE LOOKS LIKE RUPAUL!!), the hunchback man, and all the various freaks of nature that the persian army uses as "weapons". like that executioner dude, god DAMN that's some good shit.

    oh you'll love it.

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    WHO SAW THE TRAILER FOR "THE REAPING" AT THE START OF THIS MOVIE?!?! DOES THAT NOT MAKE YOU WANT TO PEE YOURSELF?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    My classics professor has been cursing this movie for weeks. Ranting and raving about how they hire professionals to give advice to help accuracy and then do the exact opposite. It's quite hilarious to see this 70 year old man saying "goddamn Hollywood moneyfuckers" three days a week.

    I'll probably wait a while to see it. I'm on classics overload at the moment.
    Yeah, he would--there's not much history here. The basic situation, a couple of the best lines in history, the red cloaks and the greaves, a huge army trying to get past a very narrow defended site, and a goat path around it. Other than that, it's pure comic book fantasy.

    Which means it might be refreshing to you, since the 'Classics' are butchered along with the inaccurately portrayed Persian army, lol.

    The Immortals and Xerxes were probably the most far-fetched departures from known history, but the entire depiction of Sparta is quite misleading. I noticed that in the midst of all the constant shouting and posturing in the name of Freedom, they didn't show any Helots, upon which the entire Spartan economy (and thus their political structure) was based.


    Arg! I'm a history brat and I hate when they get things horribly wrong. I'm still going to see it, not as a historical movie, but as an nteresting movie. We'll see if I can pevent myself from turning to the boy and hissing "that's not historically accurate, goddammit!"
    I am the worst about that, but fortunately I saw it alone so didn't disturb anyone by constantly whispering how it was all wrong.

    I would like to have seen the battle scenes a bit more accurate, in particular. All that leaping about and showing off out in front of the lines was cool-looking, but would have been despised by Spartans, and made a mockery of Leonidas little rejection speech about the dependence of the man on your left on your shield. Even when they showed the guys hanging together in line, the spear thrusts they made left them wide open almost every time, especially since the wardrobe guys left off the all-important breastplates and leather aprons the guys wore to protect themselves, in addition to the shields (which were ALL wrong, lol).

    If the real Spartans had fought that way, they wouldn't have lasted long...
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    It's a movie. It's fantasy. It'll be as accurate about Grecian history as "Sin City" was about inner city life and police procedures.

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    The movie to see, if you want an accurate historical portrayal of the battle, and provided they make it, and stick to the book by Stephen Pressfield (two tall orders, I fear), will be Gates of Fire, with George Clooney as Leonidas.

    Anyone know anything about it? I heard Clooney was very much into making it, though he wouldn't be my first choice for a Leonidas. So what, if they stuck anywhere close to the book it would be a great movie.

    I didn't really have a problem with the movie at all, I liked it and will no doubt buy the DVD. I even liked the dance sequences when they were killing all the Immortals.

    Since I had already bought and read the illustrated novel, I knew exactly what I was in for, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manchester View Post
    in my opinion the best treat of the movie was the portrayal of the various freaks, deforminities and physical oddities. there's inbred priests with weird skin ailments, similar looking warriors (once their masks are cut off), king xeres himself (CHECK OUT HIS EYEBROWS HE LOOKS LIKE RUPAUL!!), the hunchback man, and all the various freaks of nature that the persian army uses as "weapons". like that executioner dude, god DAMN that's some good shit.
    You simply must get Fellini's Satryicon, and/or Caligula (the surprisingly good--and for the most part accurate--movie put out by Penthouse back in the 80's somewhere). Freaks galore, and both very good movies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    The movie to see, if you want an accurate historical portrayal of the battle, and provided they make it, and stick to the book by Stephen Pressfield (two tall orders, I fear), will be Gates of Fire, with George Clooney as Leonidas.
    Ahh, one of my favorite books. Clooney wants to make it, but he won't be in it from what i hear. I hear Bruce Willis wants to be Leonidas, though i'd rather see him as Dienekes. I tap Billy Zane as Polynikes, as he plays an excellent asshole and is the right age. Leonidas was supposed to have been in his sixties.

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    Also, Djoser, one thing about Spartan society that occourred to me.

    The Spartiates were rich. The Peers and equals were the pinnacle of society.

    Sparta was maybe the only time in recorded human history where the 'haves' were expected to take up arms and go die for the 'have-nots." In Sparta it was the RICH people that went to war! How backwards is that? That's like Ted Kennedy with an Uzi... The Rockefeller boys manning the tanks, and the Max Factor heir blasting away at the enemy instead of slipping chicks roofies.

    My, how times change...

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    Just saw it, loved it, expected arresting visuals and was not disappointed. Only gripe was when it occassionally got confused n thought it was Gladiator: field of wheat + enya-esque vocalizing = urghh... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by phairestofthemall View Post
    Just saw it, loved it, expected arresting visuals and was not disappointed. Only gripe was when it occassionally got confused n thought it was Gladiator: field of wheat + enya-esque vocalizing = urghh... lol
    Yeah, that was a bit much, lol--but the rest of the movie made it worth sitting through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap View Post
    Sparta was maybe the only time in recorded human history where the 'haves' were expected to take up arms and go die for the 'have-nots." In Sparta it was the RICH people that went to war! How backwards is that? That's like Ted Kennedy with an Uzi... The Rockefeller boys manning the tanks, and the Max Factor heir blasting away at the enemy instead of slipping chicks roofies.

    My, how times change...
    I love it, and how true--except that the other Greeks did it as well, though not with such extreme contrast. But it was expensive to fight in the phalanx.

    The entire hoplite panapoly, or even the minimum requirement: helmet, shield, greaves, and spear, was expensive. All the major city states fielded armies of several thousand hoplites. They all had to have held sizable landholdings.

    The Athenians started off the same way, but the need for rowers (without having to get armor, etc.) opened up the war effort to more and more people of lesser wealth as time went on. Except even they, after defending Greece against Persian tyranny, went on to found an imperialist thallasocracy. Meanwhile the movie 300 showing some Spartans taking bribes wasn't too far off, except by about 100 years, later.

    Feudal society was also a case of the wealthy doing all the fighting, and reveling in it, but the peasants might not have felt a need to fight, if asked, lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    You simply must get Fellini's Satryicon, and/or Caligula (the surprisingly good--and for the most part accurate--movie put out by Penthouse back in the 80's somewhere). Freaks galore, and both very good movies...
    I said the same thing about that guy looking like RuPaul.

    Anyway, I LOVED the movie!

    So much testosterone, yes..

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    Vyanka has a thing for Testosterone...

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    I love love loved it. We bought tickets way in advance, and saw the midnight showing the day it came out! and on tuesday we're going to see it in imax dome glory!!!!

    yay!

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