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    Default Re: Kill the dollar bill!

    My club gives $2 bills as change, but not exclusively I don't think. It makes stage tipping so much better!

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    Default Re: Kill the dollar bill!

    I wish there were more 2$ bills around,but unfortunatelt there's not.We have one guy who will only tip with those,maybe works at the Mint or something.But when I spend them,sometimes people think they're fake,especially in NYC,hehe!

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    I don't know about this. I really think if you kill the dollar bill, you'll kill the smaller places around here with it.

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    Hey at least if a bitch trys to rob you you can clock her in the head with your purse.
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    I think it's a GREAT idea and if the government would do it RIGHT we'd finally get to do away with the dollar bill entirely. Yall who think that ONLY getting tips in $2s or higher is a bad idea - I think that is very short-sighted Gimme $2s!!!

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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but when they took the dollar out of circulation, that's when the stage tipping ended in most clubs in Canada.

    Yes there was $2 bills available, but thats not the point.

    Girl's didn't suddenly start making double for stages!

    Customers took the end of the dollar bill as the get-out-of-jail-free card and never tipped any more.

    That's how all the emphasis on lap dancing started here in Ontario. Dollar bill ended and then with the 1990's thats when the high-contact lap dancing started. There was no more money on the stages, only in the VIP rooms.

    There was a short boom in 'Table Dances' for $5, because that was the more common small bill then. Girls danced on a little platform (milk crate) for the guys. That was short lived and then all the business moved to the dance rooms private dances.

    Any dancer in Canada would be thrilled if the dollar bill came back into circulation. I would lead a march on foot to Ottawa if there was any chance of it happening.

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    Where is this? One locality? Did they JUST do it in the clubs? If it's a national thing and $1s no longer even exist, how will people not tip at all? In clubs where stage-tipping is prevalent I don't see it stopping just because there's no longer $1s. Maybe fewer people will tip but I still think that OVERALL the girls will make more money - in stage-tipping clubs at least.

    There ARE some clubs that do this, and it BENEFITS the people who work there. So obviously you can't say that just because it's bad in one area it won't work anywhere else.

    I can see girls getting fewer stage-tips with $2s only in places where tipping already isn't much of a thing though. But then, it wouldn't be much of a loss in those places would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette View Post
    Where is this? One locality? Did they JUST do it in the clubs? If it's a national thing and $1s no longer even exist, how will people not tip at all?
    They took the Canadian dollar out of circulation, people just stoped tipping.

    Thats what happened, why would I make that up?

    You can't put a coin in a g string or garter. (of course they do throw the $1 coins at the dancers in some areas, they make games like throw a dollar-coin at the girl and try to hit her in the cunt. seriously).

    Best case scenario, they tip $2 half as often.

    By all means endorse the move if you don't like $1, but I once met a dancer who never spent the singles, and she bought her house all in 1's.

    The problem is if you are wrong (and I suggest you are), chances are they will never re-introduce the dollar bill. Once it's gone it's gone.

    Good luck with that, I never go on stage anyway so I don't care.

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    I thought that in Vancouver they didn't tip ever, at all, because it's not allowed? Perhaps different elsewhere. When did they take away the $1 bill in Canada? Were you working at that time?

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    No I wasn't working then, but other (older) girls talk about it a lot.

    After the dollar was taken out of circulation, then the $2 bill followed.

    Then, guys basically only had the $5 to tip. So they felt they should get a lot 'more' for their money. A few techniques evolved, most popular was when the customer lays across the stage and puts money in his mouth, then the girl is expected to squat over his face and pick it up ($5 bill) with her coot.

    Some clubs find this distasteful so they banned stage tipping. I do not think that is a local ordinance anywhere in Canada but Scarlett or Alana Downs can correct me?

    The bottom line is:

    It was bad enouugh that previoustly women were subjected to showing their genitals for a $1 bill. However, the current situation, having coins thrown at you or getting tipped nothing at all, is acutally much worse.


    The strip club culture changed when the $1's were taken out of circulation.

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    Default Re: Kill the dollar bill!

    they took away the $1 bills here when I was five years old, or younger maybe...I mean, that was a long time ago...I think maybe dancing has changed quite a bit since 1990 anyway, right?

    But i agree...the only time I get tipped on stage that is not "the ride for five" type thing (which is not worth it, IMO), it is by either Americans with American cash, or Canadians with American cash. When idiots throw coins on stage, I try to grab them up, but they're hard to pick up! Easy to miss, and annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair View Post
    Customers took the end of the dollar bill as the get-out-of-jail-free card and never tipped any more.

    That's how all the emphasis on lap dancing started here in Ontario. Dollar bill ended and then with the 1990's thats when the high-contact lap dancing started. There was no more money on the stages, only in the VIP rooms.
    Actually, I don't think it really had anything to do with the removal of the small bills. I think it has everything to do with the availability of the higher contact lap dances that dryed up the stage tipping.

    I saw it happen first hand when an area that never offered lap dancing, began offering lap dancing. My income went up at first, then dropped to the previous levels, because the guys quit tipping at the stage and just bought dances instead.

    The crappy part was that I still had to do my stage sets. I was working *harder* for the same amount of money. I'd earn $400 a shift from stage dances only, then I eared the same $400, but I had to do 10 lap dances as well as doing the stage.

    Instead of stages paying $40-50 per set, I was now getting $10-20 per set and selling laps between stage sets. So much for working smarter not harder...

    IMHO lap dances killed stage tipping, plain and simple.


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    It can work in your favour. If clubs start playing the 'game' in cities that are mainly stage.

    In western Canada we have promo(keychains, magnets, lighters and posters) with our pictures and names on them.

    We dance 3 songs then the 4th song we play the game. Guys throw loonies(dollar coins) and toonies(two dollar coins) into a jug. Get 5 in you get a magnet, $10 you get a poster.

    I've made anywhere from $30 to $600 a show in tips. We roll them after and exchange them for bills.

    Works out wonderful. We still have lap dancing, you hustle for your dances when you sign your posters after your show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon View Post
    When idiots throw coins on stage, I try to grab them up,
    Ha I pick them up and throw them back at the guy. Hopefully when he's not looking so I get the element of suprise!!

    I don't know, throwing coins seems malicious even if it's real money... I think it's demeaning.

    No offence anyone.

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    Would you prefer dollar bills or coins?


    Quote Originally Posted by Cally View Post
    It can work in your favour. If clubs start playing the 'game' in cities that are mainly stage.

    In western Canada we have promo(keychains, magnets, lighters and posters) with our pictures and names on them.

    We dance 3 songs then the 4th song we play the game. Guys throw loonies(dollar coins) and toonies(two dollar coins) into a jug. Get 5 in you get a magnet, $10 you get a poster.

    I've made anywhere from $30 to $600 a show in tips. We roll them after and exchange them for bills.

    Works out wonderful. We still have lap dancing, you hustle for your dances when you sign your posters after your show.

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    Oh... the tipping thing.

    Vancouver it is illegal to hustle for tips, guys still tip and when I worked in Vancouver I still averaged $30 or so a show, 22 shows in the week.. thats pretty damn good.

    They have $40 lap dances that we're allowed to hustle for, just not allowed to hustle for stage tips.

    Also we must be covered up with a robe when we leave stage, your not allowed to touch a guy when your on stage... I dunno I made more money in stage shows in Van then I ever did in Ontario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair View Post
    Would you prefer dollar bills or coins?
    Coins, guys love throwing them and playing the game. They dont throw them at your body, they throw them into a jug, I have a little can I use and it makes a funny pinging noise when they throw the coin in. Also they get get excited because the coins pop back out of the can when they throw them too hard so they end up throwing more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    IMHO lap dances killed stage tipping, plain and simple.
    I have said this over and over again. Lapdances definitely killed this businesss. They took away the mystery and effectively made us real to the customers instead of a fantasy.

    Men didn't have the choice of airdances or high mileage or ANY kind of real contact so they paid us for our shows, which were awesome back in the day. For those that remember, you used to have to entertain for a living. This weeded out the girls who couldn't cut it instead of the norm lately of filling the clubs with anyone who can pay a house fee.

    I just feel that, in this area, where the girls rely heavily on stage tips, the lack of a $1 bill will cause more suffering and more action in the lap rooms as guys strive to get even more for their money.

    And for those who think it's ok for "those kind of clubs" to go by the wayside...well for some of us, that's our only choice if we don't want to travel. Some of us like not HAVING to grind guys or get too personal to make our money.

    It's still possible to make a decent (not fabulous, but decent) and flexible living here without getting naked or having anyone touch you... in other words, just collecting stage tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    Considering that stage tips have been practically inflation-proof, I say it's about damn time.
    I'll agree with you about inflation. As to what a stage tip would be worth today if it were inflation adjusted, well that depends on when you think it was worth $1.00.

    If a stage tip was worth $1.00 in [year] it would be worth the following in 2006...

    1986...$1.81
    1990...$1.57
    1994...$1.35
    1998...$1.22
    2002...$1.11

    One thing that I can assure you that in clubs where a significant portion of dancer income is heavily dependent on stage tips, getting rid of ones would be a disaster. Since $2 bills are in such limited circulation, customers would be effectively be relegated to using coins or fives.

    What I can never understand is why more clubs haven't addressed this problem by printing funny money, the face value of which could be for an amount that is the fraction of a whole dollar. (Why not a $1.25 or $1.50 bill?)

    I mean c'mon, it would provide yet another means of clubs charging us 10% to buy it, and you gals another 10% to cash it in. Well...lets not go there.
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    Everything is relative.... if a customer tips you a dollar and then 30 sec later tips you another you have made two and so on.... if he tips you a five guarantee he wont be throwing another up there like he would had it been a 1.... also the fact that he tipped with a larger bill will stick in his mind..."oh well I gave her a 5 so I’m good for a little while...l" whereas with dollars its easy to lose track on how many you have tipped.... really it wont make a difference use smaller bills tip more frequently, use larger bills tip less frequently....And in most cases customers get a set amount of change to tip at the stage IF their sitting there for more than a few songs due to the fact that most people don’t carry around pockets full of ones… so say he gets 50 no matter if he gets it in ones or fives its still 50 no matter which way you cut it… 6 of 1, half dozen of the other…eh?
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    This thread just brought back a horrible flashback to a dive club I worked at in BF Pennsylvania. They club only gave $1 coins and it was mandatory for us to stand on stage and pull our G-Strings out so guys could try to throw the coins in our crotch.
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    or clubs could start selling funny money. But I do like the 2 dollar idea.
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    I just take one in one side and then turn and say something cute and they put another in the other side. It's easier than collecting coins, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    I should have made my point clearer -- do any of you seriously think we would haul coins around? -- which is that I anticipate $2 and $5 bills being tipped.
    Or guys will just stop tipping us on stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl View Post
    Australia also has $1 and $2 coins and yes they will throw them on stage AT the dancer .... or even go so far (as I have seen a handful of times) as going up and "showering" the dancer in their change.

    It doesn't get rid of the cheapos. It increases them in a way ...why? Now they will be REALLY stingy as the lowest cash note is $5 and they "want their money's worth" as such... you can't escape the "whatcha gonna do for the money" question..

    I love clubs where the guys can buy tipping dollars as I end up making more on stage due to it.
    If the men will throw $1 coins at you, they'll throw $.5 coins at you. They're always the same ones.


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