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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Yep. My very first week dancing I made over $2000 and I don't remember doing any table dances, but I may have done 2 or 3 (for the entire week). That was in 1998.

    I once danced with a girl that is now a performer with Cirque d'soleil. That girl was amazing on stage, a great performer who deserves to be recognized by Cirque.
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    By the way some have made mention the interaction with the crowd/customer. I don't see the distinction between this as it is part of the dancers style. Wether a girl smiles or not is part of her style because it's an indicator of if A) Just going through the motions B)Unaware of the audience for whom they are performing. Obviously crowd interaction is important, but you don't just stop dancing to interact hence it is a part of the dance/performance. If your dancing everything you do is incorporated into your style that's what makes it so individual.

    Can someone explain why their should be a distinction?
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    Dude - you can appreciate and spend on any criteria you want. If you like a certain style of dance - knock yourself out. Crowd interaction can be separate from what you might call "skill" not style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    Dude - you can appreciate and spend on any criteria you want. If you like a certain style of dance - knock yourself out. Crowd interaction can be separate from what you might call "skill" not style.
    Oh, my bad. Thanx for the clarification.
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    Well having an audience is good. I love the fact that I get alot of attention when Im on stage, I want to keep it and make it grow!
    I do see interaction as being part of my style since most dancers Ive worked with over the years dont really connect much with the customers / crowd at all. Its not just smiling at people its getting a good reaction back from them too. Interaction for me is so much more than smiling, I want to make everyone feel good and be enjoying themselves. I also want to make them go "Fark, check this girl out!" and remember me downtrack. I do a few things to provoke a response which I cant be bothered listing and I like the reactions I get back - smiles, laughter, surprise, joy, occasional embarresment and disbelief (but not in a bad way, lol!), whoops n cheers and of course most importantly applause and praise to feed my ego too (Well feedback is always good!)

    I liken stripping onstage to playing in a band. When I used to play in bands that stage was ours and you have what we called "the power of the mike" meaning that youre up higher than everyone, your louder than everyone, everything is in your favour to be the centre of attention. Use it!

    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    By the way some have made mention the interaction with the crowd/customer. I don't see the distinction between this as it is part of the dancers style. Wether a girl smiles or not is part of her style because it's an indicator of if A) Just going through the motions B)Unaware of the audience for whom they are performing. Obviously crowd interaction is important, but you don't just stop dancing to interact hence it is a part of the dance/performance. If your dancing everything you do is incorporated into your style that's what makes it so individual.

    Can someone explain why their should be a distinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    I tend to disagree. When you compose a move, angles, movement and how the body creates the illusion are all part of the moves composition. If the move looks different something was done different therefore making it a different move. Obviously repetition will take place, but with so many moves in between it really doesn't matter. By loose choreography you mean freestyle? That's how I differentiate. If it's off the top of your head it's freestyle and if it's something you've done before or practiced it's choreographed.

    I forget if I was trying to make a point, but I already typed it so...
    So how many years of dancing training do you have under your belt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    So how many years of dancing training do you have under your belt?
    I was a Custy In Training!

    Hahaha, an old ATF used to have me come out to have new dancers try out on me. Hahahah

    She fucking told one "Don't worry honey, you're definitely not his type."

    hahahahaha greaaaattttt times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datchapin View Post
    I tend to disagree. When you compose a move, angles, movement and how the body creates the illusion are all part of the moves composition. If the move looks different something was done different therefore making it a different move. Obviously repetition will take place, but with so many moves in between it really doesn't matter. By loose choreography you mean freestyle? That's how I differentiate. If it's off the top of your head it's freestyle and if it's something you've done before or practiced it's choreographed.

    I forget if I was trying to make a point, but I already typed it so...
    It's not about throwing lots of different moves around randomly like clothes in a dishwasher. Most songs are phrased in 4 or 8 bar little phrases and 16 or 32 bar big phrases and moves generally occupy 1 or 2 bars. So a lot of times you might repeat the same move 4 times or 3 times and use an embellishment on the 4th. Also, it kind of depends how you define "move". If spinning to the right constitutes a move and pointing your foot constitutes a "move" then you can't go far without repeating... but if a 16 bar sequence is a "move" then you can obviously string a lot of different "moves" together.

    Besides, amount of moves have like zero correlation to dancing ability or entertainment value. They key is moving coherently to the music and telling a story. With exotic dancing, it's a different story to say tango, but it's still about using your body, music, and props to tell a story.

    I'm pretty sure I can dance better than the person posting above me (edit... geez this thread is moving fast and lots of posts slipped in between. no offense intended to anybody)

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    THANK you salsa4ever! I could not have said it better myself.

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    By bad, I didn't take into account varying definitions of moves, great point though. Also, you're right I should have thought about how I phrased the question better. However, I have enjoyed the responses and learned something so that's pretty cool.
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