



Exactly. Get what you KNOW youre worth!
AmyLynne
The only time I've ever had a guy want to buy out my shift it was in a regulated club - that is the club set the rate, so I didn't negotiate it. I would probably take a reasonably good night and add 10 or 20% as the loss of opportunity. I wouldn't be willing to take a real loss to hang out with one customer. The only way you get a discount is if I actually added up songs; then I would give 20% off. It doesn't matter to me what day of the week it is, or how busy the club is. I don't work the proverbially "busy" nights anyway. Another way of doing is to charge a modest hourly rate, and still charge for dances on top of it. Like $100 an hour, and full price for dances. I wouldn't tend to do it that way, but some girls are happy with the results.
I would also be worried about getting boring though, after a little while.
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$400-500 for 2 hours is the same as a lot of champagne rooms, once the club gets their cut. Except you're out on the floor, not dealing with groping, and you don't have to give any to the club. Plus, going on stage means you get to make stage tips, set up dances for later, and get a bit of a break backstage during that time. I'd be down.
The only time I wouldn't be interested was if I was at a club where my net hourly profit from champagne room was more than 250, AND if champagne rooms are a reasonably likely sell.
I mean, this is all pretty obvious stuff.
And DEFINITELY don't count intangibles like "she gets to spend time with me" into your calculations!!! As B said, several hours with one guy is arguably more work than working the floor for the same amount of time, because you have to keep things interesting, and have to deal with expectations ( 1 guy paying $500 has higher expectations than 25 guys paying $20 each).
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This all makes sense Scarlett. I spend what I spend. I was just interested in knowing where I stood (if it was a fair amount for both the dancer and myself). I have never negotiated any time/price with a dancer. I just kind of took a shot in the dark about how much I should give her. I think I was doing okay, because when I walk into a club (where I am known) I am greeted and receive company for as long as I want.
I do not put my personality into the equation, but the dancers personality weighs heavily on the tip. I am always conscious of her need to earn money and if I am not going to provide it, I politely make here aware of that. I have NEVER tried to get over on a dancer. As for the "higher expecations", well, yes. I expect much more than tits & ass. I would like an enjoyable conversation. If I am not getting that, then I will not spend the two hours time.
If any of you took offense at any questions or statement, well, I am sorry for that, but I am only being truthful.





Depending on the club, $4-500 would be reasonable for a couple hours on the floor. Actually that would be reasonable for MOST clubs. I'd go for $500 though![]()
Not buying her offstage is NOT a bonus IMO. If a guy is gonna buy my time I want off the damn stage too. Also, it's not really feasible to use stage to set up dances for later if you're spending hours with one guy - those set ups will be long gone by the time you're done.
If I need a break, I'll go to the bathroom and spend a few extra minutes (very few) primping in the dressing room. Simple enough.





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our club won't allow us to be bough off stage
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I think the stage thing really depends on the area. Because I'm in Oregon, where we generally make LOTS of money on stage, I would appreciate doing stage as well.




OK, I'll jump back in here. First, thanks everyone for the replies and to crizgolfer for asking things to help move this along. Oh and Mast good to see you raised your prices- I hear you're worth every penny.
Against my better judgement, I'll open the curtains a bit and let you all peek in for a little clarification. I wasn't looking for any advice, per se, but my question does stem from the way things work between my ATF and myself, and just wanted to see how others approached it.
I started to type out my typical night, but it was really getting long and boring and started to read like one of the newbie posts in here so I killed it.




Typically I spend 150 to 200/hr (usually on the lower of that range) + drinks + her tip out + buying her off the stage. What I get for my money is 8-10 dances an hour with some fondling, rubbing, petting, and massaging between dances (typically done in blocks of 3).
I usually don't get out till 11ish when I go out for the evening, so it's not her whole shift, usually just the last half. Most strippers in Houston are more than happy to take home 600 for 4 hours of work, without having to see a penis.





For my home club --- The only way this would work is if you booked thru the club @ $200 per hour (I receive $115) and not have us spend all our time in VIP and thus I will do stage voluntarily and you would tip me on stage (as stage is the only way I get to keep any money given to me 100%).
If you tipped me whilst I was on the floor with you and/or in VIP during our booking I have to hand over 50% of that tip to the club.
Stupid. Annoying. Silly. Yet that is how it works at my club.
You would also most likely have to do the same (book thru the club and I get a commission of the total dance price) in Darwin yet unlike my home club I get to keep all my tips 100% regardless of where I receive them![]()
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I'll give Mast 50 bucks if he doesnt wear it.
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Now, we are getting somewhere....I want to thank everyone for the good replies.
I actually have never bought a shift, or even asked how much for the next two hours. If I spend a couple hours with one dancer, then it is because we clicked on some level that night. Conversation flowed, had fun, etc. My big concern was at the end of this I want to be sure I am being fair with her. I certainly want to reward a fun and great attitude. Your responses have been very helpful.
I don't think I would offer to buy time up front, because then there is too much pressure to "perform" for two hours straight (or whatever). I would just as soon leave it open and if it feels good then go with it and reward it. If it gets strained then it is not fun for her or me, so it is time to move on. I also don't like buying champagne room time, for the simple fact that the house takes a significant chunk of it. If she fulfilled my desire to have fun, then I want her to have the cash. Not some club manager that wouldn't buy me a drink no matter how much money I spent.
My main goal at a club is to have fun. Not grab asses. I am a very busy person that likes to have fun, but has little time for it at this point of my life. You ladies are fantastic for a guy like me. Smile, laugh and show me a good time. That is how you get into my wallet.
There was a club near home that I did frequent for a period of time. One dancer there figured me out pretty quickly. She is the only dancer that never asked me for money or a dance. She would just sit down and we would go. I like to create stage side tipping games, and do other goofy things. She was always a willing participant. I would buy dances from her from time to time, but I always took care of her regardless. In fact, in the time she was there she made more off me than all the other dancers combined.
Now, if you had never met me before, how would you recognize me in a club? What signs would differentiate me from a time waster?
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every time I've had a guy buy me out for the night 1) it was never for less then a grand...I dont care how dead the club is 2) it was a grand TO ME: take home....whatever the club wanted in tip outs, buy out fee, etc..was extra 3) he also bought drinks(usually bottles of champagne in order to justify my not working the floor to the club..and not cheap champagne either..if i'm going to drink it for hours, I cant deal with sparkling vomit...PJ or better) and 4) he bought me off stage...no use going up and breaking a sweat to get guys interested in me who I wont have time for
For these things I spent, depending onthe day..anywhere from 3-7 hours with a guy. Either until he left or my shift ended.
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That sounds reasonable. I try to focus on the "take home" aspect also. I have never had a club manager do anything for me, so I could care less if they make anything off me.
The hard part is in going to different clubs it is difficult for a customer to know what the "expenses" are for the dancer. They vary so much from club to club.





If any guy is going to do this, on behalf of your fellow less affluent "pay by the song" bretheren, please buy the girl out of the stage rotation. We friggin' hate being teased with what we can't have. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of going to a SC.
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Former SCJ now in rehab.
You can just ask her. Ask how much you'd have to give her for her to go HOME with a grand...I'm sure she'll be happy to tell you!! Also...dont advertise to a lot of people(esp managers, etc..) how much you are giving her. If nobody knows...they cant demand a percentage of it.
People always ask me, did I ever learn anything when I was a stripper? Yeah, I did. One man plus two beers equals 20 dollars.
-- Anna Nicole Smith
Myspace is an obsession...much like Stripperweb...
http://www.myspace.com/cameronkeys (real myspace)
http://www.myspace.com/sexyhotdancer(work myspace)
Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.




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