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    Just delete this thread please, forget I even asked.
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    Its known as Meridia in the US. its an appitite suppressant for clinically obese people. Its a very dangerous drug and has caused deaths.

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    I'm not going to lecture you, you're an adult and I'm not your mother. All I can offer you is my friendship if you ever need support. Good luck and take care of yourself.

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    I got prescribed Reductil 20 kilos ago, but I never bought it because it's not on the PBS and the full cost is over $100. Anyway, what it supposedly does is suppress the digestion of fats. A friend of mine is on it and apparently he has oily stools but no huge loss of weight (though it's possible he just eats too many carbs and the like)

    EDIT- Oops, it seems I'm actually wrong. My friend got prescribed Xenical, not Reductil. Reductil induces satiety (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibutramine) rather than preventing absorbtion of fats. As I said, costs prevented me from trying my prescription (and then I lost the weight using the Shangri La diet anyway), so I can't tell you anything from experience. The wikipedia article I linked you to contains a list of side-effects though.

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    I think it's called Meridia in the US. There's a thread about it somewhere. I took it a few months ago, and it really supressed my appetite.I lost a lot of weight and I had to remind myself to eat. Be careful though because it's suposed to be for obese people.
    Also it has a few really ugly negative side effects such as depression and anxiety. I got depressed the first few days, but then it went away.

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    If only these drugs werent so DAMN expensive over the internet. I wonder if I could talk my Dr in giving me a script.....
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    My old doctor wrote down "EATING DISORDER TENDENCIES" or some shit on my file when I was sixteen, so I can never get ANYTHING from them. Even though at the time I had ironically lost weight from anxiety and overwork more than anything else...I was actually eating all the time, but I couldn't stay still or sleep. It did make me crazy skinny, but it was hell. And now my file precludes me from any help for the rest of my life.

    So can you get diet drugs online without a prescription? I've seen websites, but they always seem to ask for a script.

    ETA- nevermind...I found a website that will "review my request with one their physicians". So I ordered some. It's so bad, but whatever (lol, they tell you your bmi needs to be 27 or higher, and then they ask for your weight with a helpful little BMI calculator in the corner). An appetite surpressant would really help me, and if it's very strong I can always cut the pill in half.
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    what site did you use?
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    I used to order xenical online from New Zealand. I would just claim to be 5'2" and 200 pounds. Never had a problem with customs. When I was in college (long time ago) I used Xenical on my cheat days when I craved cheesy mexican food. Anyway, back to topic...I am sure there are similar sites for Meridia/Sibutramine prescriptions.

    Darcy, are you sure sibutramine is what you need? This is a drug for obese overeaters with stretched out stomachs that can down an entire pizza and a gallon of whole milk in one sitting. I understand your desire to shed pounds but don't starve yourself to do it. Fat will come back and then some. You need to eat to preserve muscle otherwise you will be skinnyfat. That's why I fancy clenbuterol and other metabolic enhancing products.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronfl View Post
    what site did you use?
    http://www.aclepsa.com/meridia.shtml?id=8466

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    I used it and it really killed my appetite as well. I was only on it for a week, because I was working a lot and I didn't want to use it while I couldn't get to the gym. I lost two pounds that week w/o changing anything else. I will use it again definitely.
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    Ok, so the website sent me an email saying their 'doctor' approved my order, so I'll get the stuff in the mail soon. Frankly, the best thing I ever used for weight loss/ energy was Dexedrine. That stuff and me just clicked so well. I could write an essay like BAM, and also not have to eat for days. Just wouldn't want to. But I also didn't sleep almost at all...still. It's hard to get though. My friend who gave me her's moved away.

    I'll update when I get the stuff and try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon View Post
    Ok, so the website sent me an email saying their 'doctor' approved my order, so I'll get the stuff in the mail soon. Frankly, the best thing I ever used for weight loss/ energy was Dexedrine. That stuff and me just clicked so well. I could write an essay like BAM, and also not have to eat for days. Just wouldn't want to. But I also didn't sleep almost at all...still. It's hard to get though. My friend who gave me her's moved away.

    I'll update when I get the stuff and try it out.
    I'm glad you can't get Dexadrine. It's essentially the same thing as speed and can have a deleterious effect on brain functioning.

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    I'm not going to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't be doing...but I will say this thread is really disappointing. I feel as though I am losing respect for some people here. It hurts me.

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    I'm not going to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't be doing...but I will say this thread is really disappointing. I feel as though I am losing respect for some people here. It hurts me.
    I'm with you on this. It's killing me not to say anything, althoguh it wouldn't help anyway.

    My cousin was overweight slightly, and she started taking phen-fen. Long story short. She can't work anymore, her heart is all fucked up. She is always inpain and cant do anything. When she was taking t, she said the same thing as I hear on here. You dont know what its like to be overweight. Id rather be dead than fat. I dont care about my health. She cares now. She regrets it. She cannot have children. She lives off the measly social secruity check she gets every month. Its very sad.

    Why dont we just drag up the meth diet thread again? That seemed to work well, and its basicially the same thign thats going on here. Taking dangerous illegal drugs to lose weight.

    I am very proud to be a part of SW. I tell my boyfriend all the time about how smart the girls here are, how level headed they are. I am proud to be a part of such an intelligent communtiy. But this thread embarasses me. This is not how SW girls are supposed to act. I dont want to wake up one day and have to read a thread about how somebody is in the hospital because their heart coulnt take the strain it was put on due to taking these diet drugs.

    I'm disappointed.

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    Okay, since I've been pregnant my tact has gone far out the window. I'm sorry, but I am also from New York and it's hard for me to mince words most of the time. I will try my best because it is not my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. I have a really hard time trying to hold back my opinions so I rarely ever do. One thing you can always be sure of though is that I will always speak from the heart.

    So here goes:

    You don't have a weight problem. ANYONE will agree with me. Trust me, we are not just saying this to make you feel better. You have a self image problem and you are headed toward self destruction taking diet pills.

    Tell ya what, I'll go one step deeper and get personal because I know a lot about this subject. It's a painful one, but I'll tell you:

    I lost my best friend in the whole world because (in essence) he thought the only way to lose weight was to get a gastric bypass surgery. IN ONE YEAR, he went from 460 lbs. to 160 lbs (being 6' 4" tall) at the time of his death. I don't know what that is in metric, but he was really fucking morbidly obese and addicted to eating. He was convinced that the only way he could be thin was to have surgery. He went on fad diets, took random diet pills and did all kinds of drugs trying to look the way he wanted to. He gave a half assed attempt at therapy becausethe results weren't quick enough. After his surgery, he was given Vicodin, which he became addicted to once he didn't have food to fill his addiction problem. He grew more and more unhealthy and eventually killed himself because EVEN AFTER HE LOST ALL THAT WEIGHT HE STILL DIDNT LOVE HIMSELF. When he realized he was still the same unhappy person with addiction problems underneath it all (and he was very beautiful, thin or fat), he couldn't handle life anymore.
    The thing he needed to change was the way he loved himself. And we all saw his personality die when he became thin. Soon his physical self followed.
    And this has hurt me to the very core of my being every single day of my life.

    Don't do this to people you love. Please. Don't do this to yourself. Even if it seems like everyone here is yelling at you, we are only saying what we do because we care. I understand it is natural for you to get defensive, but you really opened yourself up by talking about it on a public forum. Maybe it's a cry for help - maybe not, but I would hate to hear that something bad happened to anyone here.

    Also I want to add that your "last resort" comment is really fucking scary. So what's left after that if you have no other option?

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    Well when you're the girl who's been called 'fat' their whole life and has always been the 'bigger' girl, let's see if that opinion changes.

    I have TRIED working out. I have TRIED eating healthy. I still do all of that and I'm completely committed to it, but I'm still fucking chunky. People still call me fat. I still can't fit my fat fucking thighs into most pairs of jeans. I know everyone says "oh but you don't LOOK fat", well you don't know how it feels to go into a store and not be able to get the largest size of jeans up around your wide thick fat thighs and ass. I have been to psychologists recently and it did not help at all. I have tried EVERYTHING to change, and diet drugs are a last resort.

    I'm so terribly sorry that my weight problems embarass and disappoint you, but not everyone can get fucking skinny the easy way. I don't give a damn if this isn't how SW girls are 'supposed' to act. If my weight problems are such an embarassment to this place perhaps I should just stop posting.
    Yes, I know how it feels. Currently, you are 1 inch taller than me, and weigh only 3 lbs more. I think I look good at my size, and you do as well. I have weighed at the most 160 lbs when I was on Depo Provera. I know what its like to not get your ass in jeans. I still have this problem. My wast is small, and my hips are huge. I have to buy jeans a size larger just to get them over my hips, but then they are to loose in the wasit and i need a belt. But....
    You are beautiful You have an incredible body. Your weight problems aren't a disappointment, its your unhealthy attitude towards yourself. You are a beautiful girl, but the only person who can't see that is yourself. And your opinion of yourself is the most important one. Im not bitching about your choices. Im just getting frustrated that a girl as beautiful as yourself is damaging your body.
    It just kills me to see someone so pretty hurt herself.

    I hardly ever speak up. I don't like to cause drama or be in the middle of shit. But I feel this is important enough to speak up for. Its crazy. I dont even know you, I've never even talked to you before, yet I worry about you, and think of you often. I just hope you don't do irrepairable damage to your body.
    In the long run....if you damage your heart and are unable to get out of bed...these last few pounds your trying to lose will be the least of your worries.

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    I guess I missed the "how SW girls are supposed to act" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    Well when you're the girl who's been called 'fat' their whole life and has always been the 'bigger' girl, let's see if that opinion changes.

    I have TRIED working out. I have TRIED eating healthy. I still do all of that and I'm completely committed to it, but I'm still fucking chunky. People still call me fat. I still can't fit my fat fucking thighs into most pairs of jeans. I know everyone says "oh but you don't LOOK fat", well you don't know how it feels to go into a store and not be able to get the largest size of jeans up around your wide thick fat thighs and ass. I have been to psychologists recently and it did not help at all. I have tried EVERYTHING to change, and diet drugs are a last resort.

    I'm so terribly sorry that my weight problems embarass and disappoint you, but not everyone can get fucking skinny the easy way. I don't give a damn if this isn't how SW girls are 'supposed' to act. If my weight problems are such an embarassment to this place perhaps I should just stop posting.
    Have you ever thought your body doesn't want to be 125 pounds? If a body is hanging onto weight its usually because it needs it. You are a normal weight for your height.

    Just because you've been called something your whole life doesn't mean you have to believe it. Stop being weak minded and letting other people label you. Remember that thread where you actually stood up for yourself? What happened there. If you really thought you were sooo fat you would have let them walk over you. You arn't fat. That's your problem. If you were fat why the fuck would you be making money or be a top performer? Have you ever asked yourself that? If you were fat why would you put yourself out there on an adult website? That doesn't make sense. Why would people even subscribe if you were fat. You have a self esteem and body dysmorphia. You can't say all the examples I gave where people are paying to see you are a fluke and you know it. There comes a time where people have to become adults and stop listening to what the kids in the sand box say. If you never accept yourself, losing those 15 pounds WILL NOT solve your problem, it will always be something else. So what if you were born with bigger hip bones, you can't change that. Sure, maybe if you break everything ad reset it, but you arn't that self indulged yet.

    This all may sound harsh but it's meant with good intention. You HAVE to accept and love yourself or I'm telling you right now you'll never be happy. Maybe this isn' the right industry for you honestly if one comment from a stranger makes you cry and not want to eat for days. That's serious body issues and I worry about you.

    I can't change you nor can I stop you from doing life threatening drugs, but if you wind up dead, your life would have been in vain.

    I'm 5'11 and haven't been a stick all my life. Now that I've had that card dealt to me does my advice have more merit to you? Most likely not because it's a way to weed out most of the people trying to tell you better. Like another has said I normally don't do posts like this but I honestly and truly worry for youl.
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    I guess I missed the "how SW girls are supposed to act" thread.
    We arn't supposed to act anyway, but when someone does dangerous unnessacery things to their bodies it usually upsets people around here. It would be the same if someone posted on using meth, or using anarexia as a means of weight loss. It's dangerous and there's no reason for women to be putting themselves through this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissTaylor View Post
    I guess I missed the "how SW girls are supposed to act" thread.
    Ah.. I missed the memo too!

    Darcy is Darcy. She's human. We aren't all infalliable.

    Goddess! I've had plenty of moments of weakness. Some of them you can ready about if you search my posts ... some of them deleted now.

    Darcy, just like LM knows I'm not really in favour of her with her BA I shut up as I realise support is what she wants and needs and requires more than being told "you shouldn't do that" blah blah. The same goes for you.

    I am here for support.

    It is you and your body and your life. You are the one who has to deal with all this on a daily basis not me. So in the end I can't say what is right and wrong for you in re choices. I can only be here if you need me.

    You've made up your mind to use these drugs. It doesn't make you a stupid or bad person. It just makes you human as you have your own issues just like we all do (I'm far from perfect!).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    Well when you're the girl who's been called 'fat' their whole life and has always been the 'bigger' girl, let's see if that opinion changes.

    I have TRIED working out. I have TRIED eating healthy. I still do all of that and I'm completely committed to it, but I'm still fucking chunky. People still call me fat. I still can't fit my fat fucking thighs into most pairs of jeans. I know everyone says "oh but you don't LOOK fat", well you don't know how it feels to go into a store and not be able to get the largest size of jeans up around your wide thick fat thighs and ass. I have been to psychologists recently and it did not help at all. I have tried EVERYTHING to change, and diet drugs are a last resort.

    I'm so terribly sorry that my weight problems embarass and disappoint you, but not everyone can get fucking skinny the easy way. I don't give a damn if this isn't how SW girls are 'supposed' to act. If my weight problems are such an embarassment to this place perhaps I should just stop posting.
    I'm with you...I work out like crazy almost every day. I watch my diet...and when i went jeans shopping...I tried on jeans that were up to FOUR sizes over what i have in my closet before i gave up and couldnt get one pair up over my thighs. Oh..sorry..ONE pair fit well...and it's still 4 sizes bigger then I'm used to being. I have pockets of fat that wont go away. It bugs me when people say its all in my head because if it is...how the HELL can I grab handfulls of fat??
    I've had producers tell me they cant hire me because I'm too fat. so it aint just me.

    I took ephedra for years. Not to mention all the other diet aids I've used and the eating disorders I had as a teen. My metabolism is permanently fucked. Getting a boost from diet aids is my only hope. Besides getting more lipo(and I think more major surgery woudl have more potential for danger)
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    We're not doing this blindly, or with no sense of self-preservation. I'm not going to argue my case, but I will say that I remember how I felt about my body twenty pounds ago. I remember how I felt. I felt shitty about a lot of things still, but I didn't feel bad about my body. I thought "well, at least I look thin..."

    I don't make myself vomit or anything...I don't do coke.

    It's a shame I can't love my body with little rolls of fat, and that I can't suck it up when customers call me chunky. It is a shame, but it's the truth. It's a shame that every woman in my family is overweight (except for me, but it's the way my body really wants to roll, so to speak). It's a shame that I can eat so little, and run, and still have lovehandles. But i'm not going to say "well, it's my cross to carry, onward, etc". I've said that for IBS, and my infertility. Goddamn it, this one thing I can change.

    Call me crazy, I don't care. I just don't want to be called fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flickad View Post
    I'm glad you can't get Dexadrine. It's essentially the same thing as speed and can have a deleterious effect on brain functioning.
    But they prescribe it for ADHD? And narcolepsy? It did feel like speed, and I only took it every once in a while when I did have a few (otherwise the body gets used to it, and it doesn't work as well either).

    I don't take anything I've ever taken abusively. I don't even drink, when I drink, to the point of illness.

    I also smoke, and I speed when I drive. My apartment is mouldy. I ride my horse without a helmet. Whatever. Sorry to everyone for being so silly. I also give heaps to charity! If you want to jot it down in your Notebook of Judgment.

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