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    I was thinking at work of what helps me keep customers as regulars, or sell dances later to those who said no originally, or things that generally help me bank at work, so i thought i'd post some for you all to read/use.


    *remember names. when someone says maybe later and they are a good candidate for dances in your opinion, commit his name to memory. as you leave, "ok, jim, ill be back in a bit to check on you." and when you return: "hey jim! im totally ready to get naked and play with you!" if he doesnt jump right up, mention the fact he was memorable and therefore you remembered his name. it's a subtle way of telling him that he's impressed with you. this NEVER fails.

    *if someone says maybe later, they might mean that. be sure to return and remember ^.

    *never sit alone looking bored. ever. it turns people off from you. if you are sitting alone, get up and walk, or go talk to a bouncer, or dj, or something, but never ever sit alone. it looks as though no one wants you.

    *when the club is busy, chatting is not necessary. in fact, it's a waste. one line is all you need. i repeat over and over: "hey, im chrissy, wanna come and play with me? <sexy smile/wink/lip bite in slutty way>" or something similar. often substituted with "let's go play/im ready to rub myself on you."

    *always refrain from getting annoyed at people at work. maintain the same positive outlook no.matter.what. (a girl last night fked me out of a group and i smiled and walked away. i came back to the group later to make even more than she had off of them and they appreciated the fact that i told them i left because "when something angers me i remove myself from the situation rather than saying something unnecessary." i did say something to her AFTER work. during, not worth ruining your mood over.)

    *stay sober. or semi sober. do NOT get sloshed. drunk girls are NOT attractive to anyone. if you cannot refuse drinks, tell the bartender/waitress to serve you virgin drinks and charge him full price so custy is none the wiser. but i have only had 1 custy in 6 years tell me water was not ok. so i got a rum and diet sans rum.

    *asking for a second song when it was paid for by someone else: "since he paid for that, can we stay for one more, since im alreayd naked on your lap?" if the answer is yes, be witty: "well good, because i really didn't want to get dressed just yet <smile>." if no: "oh, what a shame, i really didnt want to get dressed just yet. well, tips are always appreciated!" <guaranteed to get you at least $5 more>.

    *when you see a large group, find one who is lookign at you, and sell him a dance. make it the best you can possibly give, and make sure he knows to tell his friends. give it 5 minutes before going back to that group, and go up to the guy talking to the one you danced for and ask him for a dance. chances are the one you danced for will practically sell it for you.

    *keeping a regular: i always remember quirky things a custy and i talk about. this helps immensely. i maintained this one regular (still do) because i a. remembered his name is michael b. remember that he likes me to sing softly into his ear when i know the lyrics c. remembered that we discussed that he was travelling to ATL (where i told him to visit the (edited out) club and look for a redhead named Bridgette lol) and while he spends 1-200 each time he cmes in, his visits have gotten very frequent. he will say, "you remembered! that makes me feel really good!" to random things.

    *telling a customer a very mild personal detail is a good thing, it makes them feel closer to you. (im not talking about your address or number, but more like, i had tickets to see the King Tut exhibit at the art museum, or that i coach soccer. i have a made up story of where i went to high school and know things like the team's name ie the bulldogs and where if i'd gone there i would have hung out after school)

    *always always always mention VIP to each and every customer who buys a dance. if they are hemming and hawing, BARGAIN. "if you'd rather be back there, i won't charge you for this song." "no you can decide at the end of this song. it's quite the deal to get a free lap dance!" if you do this, work out a system with the bouncer in charge of the lap dance room. i used to tip the collection guy at my old club once for the entire night where i'd bargain. sometimes i still had to pay the $5 but what's a $5 hit when you get a hell of a lot more in VIP?


    ok that's all for now folks, hope that helps..
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    Very good tips Chrissy-thanks for posting these! I've been dancing for awhile, but I get lazy sometimes and could use a good refresher.

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    *never sit alone looking bored. ever. it turns people off from you. if you are sitting alone, get up and walk, or go talk to a bouncer, or dj, or something, but never ever sit alone. it looks as though no one wants you.
    This is a mistake I see SO MANY girls making-either that or they sit at the corner of the bar with another dancer, having a cigarette, complaining that they're not making any money and talking shit about the dancers who ARE making money. When customers see you sitting alone or with other dancers instead of with a customer, they assume you're either unpopular or stuck up.

    It's much easier for me to get a guy who is already in the lap dance room with me to buy more dances than to try and find a brand new customer to sell a dance to. I do something similar to what Bridgette has mentioned in the past-subtly nodding my head and saying something along the lines of "We can keep going, right? I'm having fun with you, I don't want to stop!" They usually buy another dance unless they're out of money.

    For me, touching the guy's arm when asking for a dance seems to increase the possibility that he'll say yes.

    I try not to use the word "dance" at all when asking for a dance. I'll say something like "I'm having a lot of fun with you. I bet we could have even more fun in the back room, how about it?" or "How about we go be naughty back there?" (pointing to the lap dance room) or "Do you like what I'm wearing? It'd be even better to see what I look like out of it, wouldn't it?"

    Remembering details regulars tell you is a great idea you mentioned too. I have a terrible memory, so if a big spender tells me stuff about himself and I want to remember it, I'll write it down when I'm in the dressing room (I'm a dork). If he gives me his business card, I'll write info like where he's from, his hobbies, what kind of car he has or music he likes, etc. on the back of the card (not in front of him of course! hehe ) Then he's impressed that I remember stuff about him, like Chrissy said. Then the custy thinks we don't just see him as a dollar sign.







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    Great hints! Something that I found works well for me is to go up to a guy, introduce myself and say "your ready for a dance now aren't you?". If he says yes GREAT, but if he says something like "maybe later" I sit down and chat with him for a few minutes (about 5). Then I tell him I have to go mingle and leave. Often times the guy will pursue me for a dance later. The fact that I stuck around to chat AFTER the no tends makes a good impression and leaves him not feeling like I'm a ruthless wallet hound.


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    I think all of your advice is great, the only thing I disagree on is the bargaining of the VIP. Now your club may be different than mine, in our VIP we do it by the half hour, hour and so on. It's $300/hr, $150/ half hour. In rare circumstances girl's will bargain the price down when the money's so bad they don't want to walk out with $40, but for the most part I don't agree with bargaining, but that's just my opinion, I'm sure each club is different in the way the VIP is set up and perhaps the bargaining works in your favor at your club.

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    to ks:
    actually, imo that's a waste of time. you ALREADY asked him. he already turned you down by saying maybe later. it's a waste for those five minutes to sit with him (if there are other customers there) because he ALREADY turned you down. if he says maybe later, come back later. realize, in those five minutes you could be dancing fomr someone else and making money, instead of talking for FREE. i think you missed these two points.

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    *if someone says maybe later, they might mean that. be sure to return and remember ^.
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    *when the club is busy, chatting is not necessary. in fact, it's a waste. one line is all you need. i repeat over and over: "hey, im chrissy, wanna come and play with me? <sexy smile/wink/lip bite in slutty way>" or something similar. often substituted with "let's go play/im ready to rub myself on you."

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    you missed my point as well. bargain with a FREE lap dance. it's a transitioning thing. do NOT, i reapeat do NOT, take any money off of VIP price. the bargain is the free $20 lap dance. "if you want to be back there instead, i wont charge you for this dance" type of thing. you're eating $20 to make 200 or 150 out of that 300, right? so that seems worth it!

    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876 View Post
    I think all of your advice is great, the only thing I disagree on is the bargaining of the VIP. Now your club may be different than mine, in our VIP we do it by the half hour, hour and so on. It's $300/hr, $150/ half hour. In rare circumstances girl's will bargain the price down when the money's so bad they don't want to walk out with $40, but for the most part I don't agree with bargaining, but that's just my opinion, I'm sure each club is different in the way the VIP is set up and perhaps the bargaining works in your favor at your club.

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    i do the bargaining lap dance thing all the time! i tell them that if they want a "test drive" kinda thing, they can have a dance, and if they decide that's all they wanted, just pay for the dance. if not, they only pay half price. i rarely give them away for free, but they still feel like theyre getting something special.

    remembering names counts a lot too! last night this guy kept asking throughout the night (we were in vip all night) if i remembered his name and he seemed surprised that i did!

    thanks for posting this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    you missed my point as well. bargain with a FREE lap dance. it's a transitioning thing. do NOT, i reapeat do NOT, take any money off of VIP price. the bargain is the free $20 lap dance. "if you want to be back there instead, i wont charge you for this dance" type of thing. you're eating $20 to make 200 or 150 out of that 300, right? so that seems worth it!
    Yes!! I did this the other night and it worked like a charm. I would never discount my VIP price, but I'll eat the one free lapdance in order to get an hour in VIP. Great tips, thanks for posting!!!!

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    Chrissy, I just have to say that you're fucking awesome.

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    thanks alexxa. you know you are too, my hot milf-to-be.

    ill come back with some more tonight after work.

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    yeah, Chrissy and I never bargain with the price of the VIP (or dance, for that matter), but we'll throw in a gift with purchase if it's the only way to make the sale.

    Not everyone wants to buy without a test drive. And you will usually spend some time trying to talk him into a VIP anyway....this is the equivalent of that time, so I don't consider it a loss. Lots of our time is given away for free anyway in the hopes of making a sale, esp a VIP sale.

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    round two:

    *being honest, if you are, is a really good thing to play up. i always joke about it, but that makes guys more comfortable with me. "...i think that's because they realize im honest. i know, totally an oxymoron, honest stripper, but i am!" guys eat it up. and while i dont really think it's an oxymoron, many many many men do.

    *ABC and EOTP- Always Be Closing and Eyes On The Prize: your conversation doesnt have to revolve around dances, or strip clubs, but know how you can bring it back to ask for that dance. if you keep your eyes on the prize, you wont falter. perfect example:
    "relaly? well my favorite place that i visited so far was Copenhagen, Denmark." (let this sentence sink in, smile. count to three. "OK, enough of this talk.. let's go play!"

    *when you talk to a customer, eye contact- and eye to boob contact. do not be afraid to draw his eyes to your boobs! i will "unconsciously" touch my boobs while i talk sometimes to "fix" them in the outfit. you WANT the customer to sexualize and objectify you. that's what he's there for. so make him do it. sometimes i will jsut sit on a guys' lap and shove boobs in face and then lean back to make eye contact and then fwd again with boob -> face.

    *have a routine, before work. if you get coffee from starbucks, do that each time you go to work. the routine will get you in stripper mode. if you develop a routine, you will rarely have to "pep" yourself up during work, because the pepping will have done itself for you.

    *confidence is key: when talking myself up, sometimes i will say stuff like, "well you deserve a dance from the hottest girl/best dancer in here! and im totally ready for you!" who cares if you actually are the hottest girl or best dancer in there! your attitude is key and that attitude is very attractive.

    *accepting NO as an answer is sometimes the best way to go. but whatever you do, never ever ask, "why not?" it will waste more of your time and is not conducive to turning that NO into a YES.

    *pamper YOURSELF on your off days: manicure, pedicure, massage, shopping trip.. whatever floats your boat. puts you in a good place mentally and it comes thru.

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    this is great! please girl tell me theres a round three!

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    Thank you Chrissy
    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    there's goign to be a round three, probably after saturday (if i can shake this cold) since i come home thinking about the night

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    Thanks for the thread! I've been feeling a little out of it at work this past couple of weeks. This will be great motivation for tonight!

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    hey girl!!!

    WOW crissy you really know what you are talking about,!!!!!!!,,but i have a question,,,,,what to do when its soooo slow (like this february and march) and all you see is the same junk customers that never buy dances,,,,,,, because i started dancing this last september and i did really good until january but after that its getting worse every week,, i mean talking about the customers,,,,really really bad crowd or no one at all,,,

    is it just my club or you guys are going throug the same????

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    well, it depends on where you are.. where are you? and if i were you i'd check out the other clubs in the area to see if it's just crappy at your club or all throughout the city. if it's all throughout, it's *possible* (although not entirely helpful necessarily) that a change of scenery will help, but so SO many girls are jaded by the "grass is greener" theory, i.e. always club hopping when money stops rather than looking at their own selves and their own hustles. so... that's my best advice for you.

    as for the "same junk customers", well, you have to make friends with one of them who looks like he has money. if you make friends with him, and give him a bunch of yoru time, you chance that he will actually spend on you. however, this is a shot in the dark. make an effort to remember things about this one you choose.

    but i'd look at other clubs first.

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    Actually, I plan my spa trips for before work. That pedi/mani or blowout just make me feel really ready for making bank and I feel soooo hot! And, it does become part of the routine, And it makes me associate work with being able to pamper myself.

    And, without fail, I go to starbucks everyday before work! So funny that that was the example, do you do the same?

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    of course
    i guess in philly ill be bringing you coffee huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post

    *when you talk to a customer, eye contact- and eye to boob contact. do not be afraid to draw his eyes to your boobs! i will "unconsciously" touch my boobs while i talk sometimes to "fix" them in the outfit. you WANT the customer to sexualize and objectify you. that's what he's there for. so make him do it. sometimes i will jsut sit on a guys' lap and shove boobs in face and then lean back to make eye contact and then fwd again with boob -> face.
    I also do something like this. I usually where a longer necklace that rests between my boobs. I'll unconsciously play with necklace while he stares for a few moments, then close the sale!

    Great tips as always, Chrissy! Please keep em comin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    of course
    i guess in philly ill be bringing you coffee huh?
    i'd love you (if possible) even more then I do now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissy68 View Post
    *confidence is key: when talking myself up, sometimes i will say stuff like, "well you deserve a dance from the hottest girl/best dancer in here! and im totally ready for you!" who cares if you actually are the hottest girl or best dancer in there! your attitude is key and that attitude is very attractive.
    I tried this once and the customer said to me "Wow, you're really conceited." Does this usually work for you? Maybe I just got a bad customer lol. Thanks for the great advice again!






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    well, i mean you have to say it to the right type of guy in the right type of way. and if someone *did* say i was conceited, i would reply, "heh, not really, i am just honest. and don't you think you deserve the best dance money can buy?"

    you have to always be ready with a response, because we know that customers *can* be assholish, so if someone threw what you said back in your face, be prepared to combat that.

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    Customer perspective -- if permitted -- on the negotiating VIP with a free lapdance:

    The idea of letting the guy think about VIP while getting a free lapdance is nothing short of awesome. No one has ever tried that with me, but I think it would be fiendishly effective -- you're really doing three things:

    1. Giving the guy a "test drive" with no obligation -- builds up trust

    2. Putting him in your debt -- the same reason your college sends out free mugs and pens at donation time

    3. But the hook (and I am sure you are on to this . . . ) is that he is getting excited about you during the lapdance. I think most customers would agree that if you give a good dance, then getting us to agree to dance #2 will be incredibly easier than getting the first one. And here, instead of just getting lapdance #2, you are getting a VIP.

    What a great technique -- I am surprised more dancers don't try it.

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