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    Do you ladies find getting the first dance of the shift hard?
    I mean at my club it's a harder sell earlier in the shift and that's just a given - their not drunk, they are just settling in etc. But this is more than just that. I have no self confidence until I sell my first dance or first couple of dances and then I am on a roll and I usually do well.

    EVERY shift I start off with a "Im not gonna make a single dollar tonight" and "no one will want a dance from me" attitude.

    Why am I doing this? Why can't I think back to the shift before when I made heaps of $$$$$ and feel confident from that?

    I cant even approach guys at the beginning of the night coz my fear of rejection is so strong.

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    I have to remind myself all night to have a positive attitude or else I fall out of "good hustle" mode. Last night I started getting a bad attitude and I missed out on some opportunities ripe for the picking.

    I do the same thing when it is slow, but when it is busy it is so much easier to get the ball rolling

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    The first dance of the night used to be tough for me as well. I have wasted the first 3 hours just wandering around, thinking to myself, theres no one good here, none of these people will buy, why even bother to ask.

    You just gotta suck it up and do it. Its like jumping into a cold swimming pool. Just jump in and get it over with.

    Start thinking, Im gonna make a lot of money tonight, everyone wants a dance. Stop with the negative thinking, and just jump in and do it.

    The sooner you get that first dance, the sooner you will get the ball rolling and start the momentum for a good night.

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    What usually works for me is to think of the first hour as your time to plant all the seeds that you can. If it's early and people are just sitting there, you can still make your rounds, introduce yourself to everyone...and if they give you the "just got here; just settling in" line, let them know that they'll be getting a dance with you a little later When it's early, "maybe later" sometimes really is genuine.

    If I hit up everyone in the club when it's still early, I usually get at least one taker for a dance now, and a few that remember me later and get dances after my stage set or an hour later.

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    We have to be at our club four hours before anyone arrives. Its a total killer! I actually have RSI in my wrist from playing an addictive board game on my cell phone (jewel quest).

    So by the time anyone arrives, its really hard to get into stripper/hustle mode and turn on the charm. But I remind myself that the first dance is the warm up so its a good idea to go and get it!

    Sometimes I go on stage to get warmed up if Im finding it really hard to put on My stripper hat. Our club is so quite they dont even put people on stage until its busy which is way after midnight.

    Once Ive had that first dance then Im "on", then I go get more dances. Money has momentum so you need to get it to get more.
    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    ^^ could you take the DW cd's or any selling cd's and load them into your ipod and listen to it while you wait? Or even take a sales book in to read while you wait? That way you are getting into stripper mode during the down time, instead of getting out of it? Find a way to use that time to your advantage instead of a disadvantage?

    And why in the hell do you have to be there 4 hours early? That's crazy. It would kill my momentum to. I have to get to work, hit the floor, get busy and stay busy all night. If I get a down time, I come to a screeching halt.

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    The club opens at 8pm but people only start arriving after the pubs close at around 11:30pm. We have a few people in before that time, but only like 5 or ten and we have 20 - 30 girls working a night in a very tiny club.

    My club is so small that I have to go to the DR to look busy cos no matter where I stand, you can see Im not busy!

    Also, management wouldnt allow me to read a book or listen to an ipod on the floor and our dressing room is thru a code locked door and upstairs so i cant just pop my head around to see if anyone has come in.
    "Sex is currency. What's the use of being beautiful if you can't profit from it?" - Lily St Cyr (40's burlesque dancer)

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    nah, i dont find it hard. i just walk out on the floor and spot my first victim. before i sit with him, i scan the room to see where i'll be heading next. no matter if it's the 17th dance or the 1st dance, i approach it the same way, like im the llife of the party and having so much fun at work. same always. there is NO difference, and telling yourself there is just puts you at a disadvantage. it's all in your head. so whether you make a big deal of first dance or just treat it like any other, it's all in your control.

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    I always try to just jump right in too. My goal is to make my house fee back as quickly as I can and before it gets busy. I then have a short break and a drink. That helps me get the ball rollin. I drink a vodka redbull then get back out there, reminding myself I'm at now at zero and there's money to made, even if it is still slow. I always feel more relaxed and confident after I've made house fee/tip outs back b/c everything I make afterwards is going home with me.

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    ^^ That's why I always walk in wth my housefees and pay upfront rather than at the end of my shift. I always find myself stressin if I dont pay my house fees up front.

    If I pay them when I walk in, I dont stress or worry, but even then, as soon as I make back my housefees, I go back and put that money aside, to "pay myself back"

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    i have problems getting the first dance too. i can't start hustling guys until after i've done my first stage show, otherwise i'm not in stripper mode yet. most guys wanna see how you dance first anyway.

    after i do my stage show, i go and sit with the guys who seemed to be watching my show or tipped me. i talk to potential spenders all around the room, and then if everyone says no, i take a break in the dressing room and freshen up my makeup or re-straighten my hair or whatever. then i feel confident again and try to talk to any new people that might have come in, or go back to a guy i was talking to before and see if he'll change his mind. if not, then i'll usually end up just sitting around and talking to guys for free... this is the point where i start to lose my motivation... like there's no point in even asking for dances anymore.

    but haven't you noticed that when you do really well at the beginning of the shift, then the money just keeps coming? i came in at 7, met this guy at 7:30 who spent $450, so i just didn't give a fuck about the rest of the night because i had already made more than i predicted, and for some reason my confidence and happiness seemed to attract everyone and i had already banked by midnight, right when it was starting to get busy for the other girls! thats why it's so important to just come into the club and freak out, talk to every fucking guy like the world is going to end if you don't get dances. if you can get the momentum going you will bank, but if you lose the momentum by giving up when a few people have said no, usually it is a downward spiral. this is the hardest part of stripping in my opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    ^^ That's why I always walk in wth my housefees and pay upfront rather than at the end of my shift. I always find myself stressin if I dont pay my house fees up front.

    If I pay them when I walk in, I dont stress or worry, but even then, as soon as I make back my housefees, I go back and put that money aside, to "pay myself back"
    Even when I'm in Vegas and have to pay up front, I tell myself to make my house fee back as quick as I can. Then I'm out of the whole and feel more relaxed/less anxious throughout the rest of the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaRose View Post
    I always try to just jump right in too. My goal is to make my house fee back as quickly as I can and before it gets busy.
    That's exactly how I do too. Last night it took a little longer than I would've liked to get that first dance but I perservered. I had a guy keep telling me no, but at the same time keep telling me how fuckin hawt I was. After so many songs, I was just like, "look I know you want me, you've told me a million times. This song is almost over, so when it's done we're goingto go back and you're going to let me make you feel good" I was extrememly assertive, moreso than I usually ever am. Hey, at least I got the dance







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    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaRose View Post
    I always try to just jump right in too. My goal is to make my house fee back as quickly as I can and before it gets busy. I then have a short break and a drink. That helps me get the ball rollin. I drink a vodka redbull then get back out there, reminding myself I'm at now at zero and there's money to made, even if it is still slow. I always feel more relaxed and confident after I've made house fee/tip outs back b/c everything I make afterwards is going home with me.

    I do this, too. At my club, we have to pay house fees up front, but I know that until I've made back that ammount plus my tip-out, I'm in the red. If it's very slow at the beginning of the shift, I tell myself that I'm just trying to get to zero; then once the rush hits, everything I make is mine.

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    Last night I walked on the floor, checked in with the DJ. Then I heard him say Sapphire in two. I didn't want to go on the stage. I even said to the DJ, "guess I only have one song to get into the CR." I had a quarter long convo with a customer and asked him if he wanted to go to the CR. I led him past the DJ booth with a smile. I just had my mind set, and it worked.
    Btw, the DJ doesn't mind calling another girl, there are lots of girls who want to go on stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinammonkisses View Post
    I was just like, "look I know you want me, you've told me a million times. This song is almost over, so when it's done we're goingto go back and you're going to let me make you feel good" I was extrememly assertive, moreso than I usually ever am. Hey, at least I got the dance
    hahaha! i did something similar last night, to a young punk wannabe who went all the way across the floor to talk to me (the custy i was sitting with had gone to the restroom), and then when i told him i was sitting with someone, he was like "ok, but come and get me when you're done!" So I did my next stage set, danced for the custy i was sitting with, and found this guy...who then tried to give me the "oh you're beautiful, you drive me crazy, you're so hot but oh we're just leaving." Oh no. No no no no. You do NOT waste my time like that. I looked him in the eye and said "You're not leaving. I'm dancing with you NOW." His friends all got wide-eyed and started laughing, and one of them said "that is SO hot." And yes, I got my dance. I guess it doesn't pay to censor yourself sometimes!

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    I'm the most nervous at the start of my shift too... I still put myself out but I don't sell as much as I do later, but I've noticed a couple things that may have something to do with it besides my just being nervous. First, guys that have just come in don't seem to be willing to commit to a dancer right off the bat, so from now on whenever possible I'm going to move last on guys that don't even have drinks yet. Second, it seems like guys that are part of a group are less willing to keep you if their buddies aren't set up nicely too, so next time I'm going to try and get s'more dancers with me to approach a group rather than going in solo.

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    I never approach guys until I've been onstage at least once. (I work in a club of about 15-20 girls so it's not like I have to wait long to go onstage) I like to be able to see who watches me or tips me when I'm up there so I know exactly who to go to.

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    Another way to approach the situation is to not sell the guys at all! Just go up to any of the patrons (they aren't customers until they tip or purchase a dance) and introduce yourself ask a question or two then leave them to move onto the next patron(s) without asking for the dance.

    Act like a hostess to get into the groove if you have to for the first hour or so. Then go back to all the patrons you previously approached who havn't already purchased a dance from someone and/or who look like they are more settled and close the sale then.

    Act like a hostess for a bit to get into the groove then once you are in the groove... sell!

    You aren't getting rejected because you initiated the conversation and also left the conversation "unfinished" as such because you didn't close the sale (left it for later)..... this works for me when I'm in a funk at the beginning of a night.


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    ^^Oh yeah. I often feel too rusty and fresh to my shift to be able to truly hustle any guys. I mean, I haven't even gone onstage yet! So I'll go to a few guys and just say "Hi there, having a good time? I'd like to introduce myself, my name is ___, what is yours. Good to meet you. I'll be up onstage getting naked soon, so have another beer and I'll see you there!" Then I know a bunch of guys' names (you have to mutter it to yourself a lot to get it to stick) and then they'll remember me as the hot girl that didn't ask them for a dance and is obviously the best dancer in the room.

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